Joker Hexagon Fabric Print Interest
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Thanks!!!
Actually, they are a stretchy iron-on...
man i would PAY you to make me some of those!!!!!! heh
ahem, hint.
Flonkerton
New Hunter
Hmmm Kwally is already making an organized thread, why cant we just use this for discussion (I have this page bookmarked and its easy to get to).
Also, If you do have more info on the pattern and the type of iron on paper used I would be interested.
Ghostsoldier
Active Hunter
Thanks! As per the request...
These are my finished suspenders (braces)
Sin...EXCELLENT, my fellow Clown Prince of Crime! You are to be commended, my friend, on such quality work! Good call on the button-type braces...no clip-ons for our Jokers!
Also, equally great work on the vest back...good call on the fabric!
And yes...could you please share the secret of your suspender success with us other clowns? The type of stretchable iron on paper you used, and where you got the braces?
Rob
man i would PAY you to make me some of those!!!!!! heh
ahem, hint.
I know that some would rather I post this on a different thread, but the truth is... This is the only thread I pay attention to. Other than the shirt, most of my costume is either finished or in the works. So, checking out and posting on other threads is really of little use to me. Sorry.
However, I hope that I make up for my indiscretions by posting very helpful and relevant Joker related costuming ideas that help anyone that may be in need...
I am grateful for all the help that I have gotten on the shirt for this costume and in return I hope that I can help anyone here on any other areas of the outfit that I have finished...
All of that aside, I would like to answer a few questions about my suspenders (braces)...
The original set was bought from a local Men's Warehouse. They are a light silver/grey to begin with and 100% silk.
Unfortunately, I do not have the budget necessary to get these embroidered with the green diamond pattern like the real deal. Maybe in the future...
Anyway, I fashioned the pattern myself using the few screen shots that exist.
I do not have "vectoring" experience like Seriana, but I know a little bit about Photoshop. I used the program to color match the green diamond pattern from the screen shots.
Once the pattern was finished. I made a side by side 5-up on an 8.5x11 sheet that could later be printed onto the iron-ons.
I used Tailor brand "Soft 'n Stretchy" iron-ons.
It is a little bit of a pain to make sure they are lined up from one iron-on to the next, but as you can see it is well worth the effort.
I do not plan to make these for sale. Sorry, but that just isn't who I am. I like helping others to make their own. I guess that is the teacher in me...
I cannot post the file I made, for fear it will just get ripped off. I hate when people do that.
However, I am always happy to answer any questions that may be useful...
I love my hobby and those that share my enthusiasm. :cheers
Ghostsoldier
Active Hunter
Sin...you're a man after my own heart, and I agree with everything you said..your points were well-put, honest and succinct.
Like yourself, I prefer to do it myself; the insight into your methods and ideas are the only incentive I need to accomplish my own endeavors.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
BTW...I did a Google search for the Tailor brand "Soft 'n Stretchy" iron-ons, but turned up zip...does your package have a website link?
Rob
Like yourself, I prefer to do it myself; the insight into your methods and ideas are the only incentive I need to accomplish my own endeavors.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
BTW...I did a Google search for the Tailor brand "Soft 'n Stretchy" iron-ons, but turned up zip...does your package have a website link?
Rob
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jokergear
New Hunter
Sin...you're a man after my own heart, and I agree with everything you said..your points were well-put, honest and succinct.
Like yourself, I prefer to do it myself; the insight into your methods and ideas are the only incentive I need to accomplish my own endeavors.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
BTW...I did a Google search for the Tailor brand "Soft 'n Stretchy" iron-ons, but turned up zip...does your package have a website link?
Rob
http://cgi.ebay.com/June-Tailor-Sof...ryZ26253QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ghostsoldier
Active Hunter
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Ghostsoldier
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i agree, and with that thought in mind, can somebody gimme some help on dyes?
basically these pants are a mother effer to find, so i guess am gonna dye some. never done it befroe so i'm clueless.
so, if i were to buy blue oants i'd use... red dye? now if the pants were dark or light blue, would that impede on what colour/shade of red i should use?
then the actual practice of dying them, do you just put them in a bucket (i'm assuming the dye would come with instructions for this though) and i'm guessing you add water?
take it washing them is a bit difficult
so many questions!!!! sorry!
basically these pants are a mother effer to find, so i guess am gonna dye some. never done it befroe so i'm clueless.
so, if i were to buy blue oants i'd use... red dye? now if the pants were dark or light blue, would that impede on what colour/shade of red i should use?
then the actual practice of dying them, do you just put them in a bucket (i'm assuming the dye would come with instructions for this though) and i'm guessing you add water?
take it washing them is a bit difficult
so many questions!!!! sorry!
Yeah Galmando I heard darker the blue the less red you'll need or something like that. AZspidey on the hype board came out with something nice and he had a 6 rit purple dyes to 1 blue on grey pinstripe pants. I hear the blue pinstripes come out even nicer with red. Sorry I can't help I haven't done it myself yet. Anyways what do people think of these pants as a starting point? 50 bucks, I'd be afraid to dye but I like the style.
http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=11889&pid=538230
http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=11889&pid=538230
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Here are my pants. (details below)
These were originally a light grey with white pinstripes, 100% wool, $20 pair of grey slacks from Macy's. Using Purple Rit Dye for 24 hours, then Royal Blue Rit Dye for 30 minutes, I was able to get the right shade. Use seperate dye buckets. After each dye, I rinsed and dried the pants before moving on. This week, I will be taking off the belt loops and adding suspender (braces) buttons to the inside of the waist for my suspenders...
when dying the pants, should they be laid out flat and also, very important question, is wool the best to dye with? if the pants were polyester and viscose, would that matter? (and do you throw the whole bottle of dye in the bucket?)
thanks sinister, and thanks brodee for the advice!
Galmando the rit dye site has a tutorial area. Lots of good info..as far as I know most people put all the dye in then 'stir' the pants for 30 minutes or so, or some just leave it soaking for 24 hours. Don't know what turns out better..I'll be trying something soon though myself!.
BTW The polyster is hard to dye..Heard some horror stories, I think it can only be 50% poly?
BTW The polyster is hard to dye..Heard some horror stories, I think it can only be 50% poly?
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Ghostsoldier
Active Hunter
The stripes seem to be too close together...the Joker's pants have a wider-spaced stripe pattern....
Rob
Ghostsoldier
Active Hunter
Galmando the rit dye site has a tutorial area. Lots of good info..as far as I know most people put all the dye in then 'stir' the pants for 30 minutes or so, or some just leave it soaking for 24 hours. Don't know what turns out better..I'll be trying something soon though myself!.
You have to stir them, or the dye will "set" in the creases, and you'll get dark streaks of color in the fabric
. Add about a cup of table salt to the dye mixture to help "set" the color, and make it more vibrant. You need to make sure the water is HOT when you do it; I typically do it in my bouble-bowl kitchen sink (the wife hates it!:angry), and I use a big, 3-gallon pot of boiling water added to the hot tap water already in the sink (be careful!). Be sure to wet the fabric first with cool water, before putting it in the hot dye...then, stir it continously, on and off, for 30 minutes. To see if you are getting the color you want, take a small section of the leg and wash it with clean tap water in the other sink bowl; the fabric in the concentrated dye bath may look like the color you want, but a lot of it will wash out when you are rinsing it. Once you get what you want, completely rinse the pants in clean, warm water, until you get very little dye residue being washed out...then, depending on the fabric, either line-dry (wool) or use the electric dryer....True. The poly will not take regular RIT dye; there is some talk of a dye that can be used on poly, but I don't wear poly, so I've never used it...I only use cotton or wool on my costumes, especially if I know the piece is going to be dyed...
Hope this helps.
Rob
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I sent this to a couple of others here on the thread about my pants, so here it is for all...
The dye process I used for my pants...
The dye ratio is pretty simple. I used a five gallon bucket. Using hot water I fill the bucket about three gallons full. Add 1/2 cup of table salt to the mix. Add one packet of Rit Dye or one bottle of the Rit Liquid.
Be sure to wet the material with hot water before soaking in the dye.
Stir the material in the dye for about 30 minutes and then make sure they are fully submerged for the time needed for each color.
I used the purple first, for about 24 hours.
Then rinsed them in a water solution with one cup of white vinegar.
Let them air dry before putting them in your dryer.
After that, mix up a new batch of dye using the royal blue. All the same quantities form above.
Repeat the process, but only stir the material in this mix for about 1/2 hour. Then repeat the rinse and dry process.
I highly recommend 100% cotton or 100% wool. NO POLY AT ALL!!!
Also... TEST SCRAP! TEST SCRAP! TEST SCRAP!
Best of luck!!! :cheers
Anyone have a heads up on the order thread???
The dye process I used for my pants...
The dye ratio is pretty simple. I used a five gallon bucket. Using hot water I fill the bucket about three gallons full. Add 1/2 cup of table salt to the mix. Add one packet of Rit Dye or one bottle of the Rit Liquid.
Be sure to wet the material with hot water before soaking in the dye.
Stir the material in the dye for about 30 minutes and then make sure they are fully submerged for the time needed for each color.
I used the purple first, for about 24 hours.
Then rinsed them in a water solution with one cup of white vinegar.
Let them air dry before putting them in your dryer.
After that, mix up a new batch of dye using the royal blue. All the same quantities form above.
Repeat the process, but only stir the material in this mix for about 1/2 hour. Then repeat the rinse and dry process.
I highly recommend 100% cotton or 100% wool. NO POLY AT ALL!!!
Also... TEST SCRAP! TEST SCRAP! TEST SCRAP!
Best of luck!!! :cheers
Anyone have a heads up on the order thread???
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gagnon49456
Jr Hunter
I used a 2/3 poly blend. Worked pretty well, but I went with a cup of salt and a little detergent in my dye mix. I let it dye for 24hours (Same method as Sinister with 5gallon bucket only I warmed up the 3 gallons of water on a stove top to just over 200 (I'm used to that heat you should not go over 150 or so if you are not) with mu dye mix being two packets of purple the cup of salt and about a tablespoon of liquid detergent 4 cups of hot water in a gallon plastic water container. Make sure all the dye and a decent portion of the salt is dessolved (wont dissove all the salt Just so get all of it you can out of the water jug) I then checked it and stirred it every 8 hours or so. If you do use pants like mine. Do not re-dye with the royal blue otherwise you will end up with a real dark blue pair of pants it wont meld with the purple like it does in the cotton and wool. Is the ORDER THREAD UP? if so could someone PM me the link. THanks and Thanks again Sinister for posting your progress on here I Know its helped me a ton. :cheers Suspenders I really would love to start tackling now myself I come up with something that works well I'll post it.
At first i would love to say that this thread has been my new addiction for about the last week or so and man you guys have all helped!! I feel so much better that there are others out there are as obsessed with this character as i am. I did a Jack Sparrow a while back and that just created a desire to be more and more perfect with my costumes for Halloween and event I even got paid for to walk around the movies when they had the third installment come out for pirates at worlds end. My profile pic should show you my costume for it.
well thats enough about my background, what i really needed to ask about the costume is that i have noticed a lot of talk about the pants and coat and shirt, which is what this entire thread is made for i understand that, but on a different concern about the costume is, i seem to be stuck on the hair. How in the hell is that even possible if i dont have a receding hairline? yeah yeah yeah i can grow my hair out but the problem is is that i have two months, and my hair is short... So, its one thing to find a wavy wig and use that cheap hair spray to color it, which looks like what they did for his hair, but its another thing to have the hair look right. And im sorry but the wigs that are for sale that claim to be the joker wigs are to green or just plain awful. So would anyone have an idea of how to go about putting on a wig for this?
i wont be totally useless here, so my two pennies of this issue is that i get a good wig that looks close, whether i have to have it cut to look right or not i don't care. Thats solution one fixed. The next is the hairline. do i put it on with either a shaved head or some type of cap under it which will work/ look like im just bald. then place the wig on top of it and use the makeup to hid the cap line around my forehead? thats all i can think of...
well thats enough about my background, what i really needed to ask about the costume is that i have noticed a lot of talk about the pants and coat and shirt, which is what this entire thread is made for i understand that, but on a different concern about the costume is, i seem to be stuck on the hair. How in the hell is that even possible if i dont have a receding hairline? yeah yeah yeah i can grow my hair out but the problem is is that i have two months, and my hair is short... So, its one thing to find a wavy wig and use that cheap hair spray to color it, which looks like what they did for his hair, but its another thing to have the hair look right. And im sorry but the wigs that are for sale that claim to be the joker wigs are to green or just plain awful. So would anyone have an idea of how to go about putting on a wig for this?
i wont be totally useless here, so my two pennies of this issue is that i get a good wig that looks close, whether i have to have it cut to look right or not i don't care. Thats solution one fixed. The next is the hairline. do i put it on with either a shaved head or some type of cap under it which will work/ look like im just bald. then place the wig on top of it and use the makeup to hid the cap line around my forehead? thats all i can think of...
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