Zam Helmet

Hi, a friend in my garrison is considering doing Zam, and is currently working on a price estimate. Does anyone know if anyone still does the helmets, I saw JD's helmet thread, but haven't been able to contact him. If anyone knows who sells these helmets, and how much they cost, I'd appreciate a PM.

Cheers,

Adam

I just recently acquired DCB's helmet molds and should be able to offer some here in the future. I don't know details yet cause I need to finish some other projects and orders first ... but I will get to it as soon as I can. Do you have a deadline you're shooting for?

Well, I''d like her to have it done by Celebration Europe, which is July-ish... but not sure if she's as excited about it as I am. lol

Originally Posted by NOITAIDAR

Well, I''d like her to have it done by Celebration Europe, which is July-ish... but not sure if she's as excited about it as I am. lol

I hear ya It took my wife a while to get into it but once she did man... she wants all the costumes now

I figured the helmet would be a project I'll try to tackle in the next 2 months or so. I'll be sure to post an update once I can get to work on it.

hey moncal,

you probably know this al ready but i so want in on the helmet thing when you get it going too....trying to maybe get my wife ready for C4 if possible...not really sure if we will both be going...i know i should be...she may have to stay with the kiddos unless we can get a sitter...if so i would be shooting for that time..still looking for a price list on the other stuff we talked about

Mr. Radiation, try PMing Zam I Am on TDH. She can probably point you in the right direction. Good Luck.

MandalorFett, nonono, don't point them to me, I don't do helms. Dustin Crops Boy did mine - (I helped only like <2% of the process) and then he sold his molds to Moncal. So, you should talk to Moncal about helm stuff. NOT ME.

hi Moncal, pleeeease put me on the list for a helmet too, cheers.
I'm putting so much time into making the soft parts, its difficult to see when I'm going to be able to even start scratch building the armour.

PM coming your way

Originally Posted by chansplace

hi Moncal, pleeeease put me on the list for a helmet too, cheers.
I'm putting so much time into making the soft parts, its difficult to see when I'm going to be able to even start scratch building the armour.

PM coming your way

I haven't been able to get to the helmet project as soon as I'd hoped. I've been a little backed up with other projects and orders but I will get to it soon cause I will need to replace my wifes helmet Please be patient with me and I will have some updates as soon as possible

thanks,

no worries

I'm not making leaps and bounds but thought I should share something

I am super busy with projects so I'm going to commission an excellent fiberglass person to cast the helmets and then I'll either offer as a kit or possibly finished. Also I'm having some troubles with the binoculars. If I'm on the right trail for them, they're not the same ones Dallas found... not to mention the manufacturers are changing their designs.

I'll have some news in a month or so hopefully.
thanks

Originally Posted by mando25

ha i raised this thread from the dead! oh ya my sister wants a zam coustume!

Somebody's cruising for a ban....

Julie

Originally Posted by Iceheart

Somebody's cruising for a ban....

Julie

He's well on his way... I didn't catch this one last night.

sorry iceheart. dont forget, im new and dont know about these things.once again, sorry. ill edit my post.

Originally Posted by mando25

sorry iceheart. dont forget, im new and dont know about these things.once again, sorry. ill edit my post.

Well you got warned in two other threads. I think you "knew" what you were doing.

yes, but i didnt know ou would get a warning since other people do it.

Originally Posted by mando25

yes, but i didnt know ou would get a warning since other people do it.

Other people resurrect threads by mistake, or they feel that bumping them will be better for the community. As expressed by Gilmore of OK, raising a thread for one's own amusement is considered "trolling." Just don't do it again and you won't have any problems with the admin staff or other members on the forums

once again, sorry.

Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

Other people resurrect threads by mistake, or they feel that bumping them will be better for the community. As expressed by Gilmore of OK, raising a thread for one's own amusement is considered "trolling." Just don't do it again and you won't have any problems with the admin staff or other members on the forums

i could think of one other person who does this...but it doesnt come to mind

the sniffer? or maybe im thinking of someone else.

Originally Posted by mando25

the sniffer? or maybe im thinking of someone else.

INDEED

does indeed mean yes? or are you saying indeed to maybe im thinking of someone else?

Originally Posted by mando25

does indeed mean yes? or are you saying indeed to maybe im thinking of someone else?

think about it

Originally Posted by mando25

has been edited

kid, it doesn't matter if you edit your post. you bumped the thread, and people quoted you immediately. GCN has warned you in every thread to stop digging up old threads because it's trolling.

take a hint

Originally Posted by CombatBaby

kid, it doesn't matter if you edit your post. you bumped the thread, and people quoted you immediately. GCN has warned you in every thread to stop digging up old threads because it's trolling.

take a hint

theres one more person annoyed

this thread is from before that argument

doesnt matter, stop doing it

mando, when you first signed up here, your posts were generally decent and educated, but now it seems like you are trying to be annoying. Stop digging up old posts, and show respect. No one has a problem with YOU. just the way you are acting.

Quick Question on the helmet - anyone remeber the model of Binocs that were used, i did know but ive lots all my notes

I'm thinking Bushnell ??? something like that. I think DCB said he found them at Target (which I don't think you have in the UK ). But that model was from a few years ago, not sure it's still out or even what model it was... Sorry I can't be of more help. I do remember he said they were in the $10-$20 range and he needed 2 for each helmet.

Thanx hun!! I remeber i pm'ed someone asking a few years back (i think it was dcb) they told me and i found them on a US site somewhere but i totally forgot what they were lol

Well i answered my own question!! lol - next tim i ask anything and say "someone once pm'ed me with the answer" someone logical tell me to check my inbox! lol

I didnt think to look as it was about 3 years ago LOL

Anyway answering my own question incase someone else needs the info

"2 pair of cheap Bushnell 8x21 sports binoculars - torn apart and put together."

Wow, I have a few questions about these binoculars. Why would 2 pair be needed? I see just 2 eye pieces used on top of the helmet correct? I don't see what part needs to be used twice?

Secondly, if anyone has a model number handy that would help. Or even a photo of the binoculars before they have been torn apart. So far the only 8X21 Bushnell's I see are like this:



and nothing about them screams out to me that these are the right ones

Thanks for any insight or help any of you can give me!

Those aren't the right ones. You need the 10x25. They're discontinued as well so you'll have to go to a store and check their old stock. The new versions have been re-styled and the thumb knob is different.

On another note, they still aren't 100% perfect but I'd say they're about 95% close enough. The reason you need two pair is because there is only one lens that you can focus and is the only one that comes off of the pair. The zam helmet used 2 focusing lenses. Then you have to create the connection between them. You get most of the frame with the binocs but it's still a lot of work to build the pair. I'll be making them with the helmets ... as soon as I get word of the helmets being ready.... any day now I hope he'll give me an update

Strange! DCB told me 8x21 Lemme see what i found back in the day! lol

Originally Posted by MonCal

Those aren't the right ones. You need the 10x25. They're discontinued as well so you'll have to go to a store and check their old stock. The new versions have been re-styled and the thumb knob is different.

I'll be making them with the helmets ... as soon as I get word of the helmets being ready.... any day now I hope he'll give me an update

Thanks for the clarification! So maybe this is the older style?





And these are the newer ones not to use?



Or neither?

Then again, if we get lucky and you make our helmets + binculars I might not need to worry about this. I still like to get all the particulars and research straight.

Originally Posted by Langsuir666

Strange! DCB told me 8x21 Lemme see what i found back in the day! lol

Maybe the body of both the 8X21 and the 10x28 are so nearly identical it doesn't really matter. It looks like the same frame is used on those two photos as far as the knob goes and the ocular area.

The frame is the same but the design of the adjustable lens is different. It's tough to explain but the design that allows the lens to rotate and focus is completely different. I bought 3 different pairs and ruined 2 pairs that I couldn't return learning this.

Ah, that sucks MonCal So, is the first photo of the 10X25 in my above post the correct discontinued model?

Yeah, that first one is correct. The 2nd phot is tough to tell.. it might be right too. they could be using old photos for their new stock. I have a feeling that even if they were ordered from a website that they would still use the old photo and send you the new model which is why I'm going to stores personally to find them. They even try to give you the new model there.. they don't realize that they're different.

I have a request to those with DCB helmets .. purty please ... Since I traded my helmet I don't have one to look at and my fiberglass guy needs to know exactly where to trim the helmets. I completely forgot to look at that on my helmet. I need some photos of the bottom of the helmet if someone would be so kind Thank you thank you thank you !!!!

Originally Posted by MonCal

I have a request to those with DCB helmets .. purty please ... Since I traded my helmet I don't have one to look at and my fiberglass guy needs to know exactly where to trim the helmets. I completely forgot to look at that on my helmet. I need some photos of the bottom of the helmet if someone would be so kind Thank you thank you thank you !!!!

If someone doesn't beat me to it, when ours arrives I'll send you some flicks
Let me know exactly where you want them

John

I would be interested in buying a helmet when they become available. Is there a list to put my name on for when they become available?
I'm not in a hurry. Just now starting the very early getting information so I can start getting things and spreading out the budget. Figuring some time next year I should have it wearable.

Thanks!!

sl/tk8456 , that would be great if you could share some photos. I would greatly appreciate it As soon as I can send them to my fiberglass guy then he can trim the first one and send it to me so I can show some pics and decide on options for everyone

As soon as our helmet arrives Moncal ill take the pictures for you, just waiting on the postman! Hope he comes soon i want to run about with my rifle and the helmet on!!!!!!!

Sorry I haven't taken any pics for ya, my helmet has soo much battle damage, I wouldn't trust the measurements on the pics to your helmet dude. Mine was like the first or second one outta the hatch and, well, on the way to Dragon Con, all the tabs came off.. etc etc..

My helmet is on its way back to me so as soon as it gets here I can relay the info to the fiberglass guy and move forward from there

MonCal... I can't believe I missed this thread! :o Do you still need pics of the helmet? I can send some to you. Mine is still in good condition, except for the one back tab which fell off, and I haven't glued it back on yet.

Lemme know....

MonCal, the lid has arrived. Hooray!

What flicks do you need?

Also did anyone else find these lids are a little bit on the wee side?

Yes, they are a tad small, and you can't stuff foam inside, and you will get helmet head.

Originally Posted by Zam I Am

Yes, they are a tad small, and you can't stuff foam inside, and you will get helmet head.

Is there anything you can do?
I was thinking maybe cutting the rear fins out and spacing them differently?
Plus her ear intercoms can also be cut off and moved outwards.

Has anyone performed this sacrilage, or does everyone just put up with it?
Thing is Becky seriously can't just put up with at it won't on without a push. Even then it looks odd

No one that I know has cut em out.

How small is small?
I tend to fit children size hats so I'm wondering if it'll be fine for my size.

Small... as in small around your head. Though, I can get mine on, it is tight. I did make some custom padding for it, as even just wearing it for a short time gave me a headache! I can live with "Helmet Head" and even "Helmet Hair" but not being overheated with a headache on top of that!

Strange thing is, even though it is tight around my head, I can still pin up all my hair (and I have a lot of thick hair) underneath the helm!

Yah me too, I can tuck my hair in It sometimes gives a headache because of how the sides cave in. If you take a good look, it's not like any other helmet that is round. That's why it is so tight for most. I can't get anything else inside besides my hair. DCB at least "pitched" it with a rubber inside to keep it from hurting worse.

Hmmm...in picture #170, it looks as though the helmet is sitting pretty high on her head. Do you think they padded it for comfort, or does it sit like that on Leanna as well?

My poor little homemade helmet also gives me a headache due to the sides. I guess I should be thankful that I don't have a cone-shaped head I've been threatening to make a new one for forever...maybe before Celebration 5 -

It fit Leeanna perfectly, I think that they padded the NY girl cause yeh, it is high up on the head. If I recall, the hose on the back of the helm is supposed to lay up against the back of the head, and with the NY girl's ponytail/or hair it's raised way too high.
, I have been telling myself, "I'm gonna make a helm" for years too. I want to finish other stuff first. Not to mention get some of my sewing skills up to par.

It really really hurts my head Its so tight that if i open my mouth to talk the movement of the muscles in my head makes the helmet wiggle about LOL!!!

DCB you must have a small head hehehe!!!

In true costumer styleeee im going to try and put up with it but im a large in motorcycle helmets so when i say tight i mean "i need a shoe-horn to get it off and a mallet to get it on" tight LOL

I actually thought about trying to cut down the size of my head before we go cutting the helmet LOL

That said this is a trully stunning helmet and the level of detail is amazing! loving the ball joint

I'm thinking of taking the ear intercoms off (one os lose anyway), sticking them back on but further out and widening the lid a little that way?

No one else has had this problem?

I am so sorry, but I don't think anyone has fooled with it. We tried our best to make sure our heads fit into it first before we bought ours, I think only 7 were made.

Originally Posted by Zam I Am

I am so sorry, but I don't think anyone has fooled with it. We tried our best to make sure our heads fit into it first before we bought ours, I think only 7 were made.

Yeah that's cool. It's an absolutely stunning piece of kit and I'm blown away by it's attention to detail. Becky's fault for having a large nogging

I'll fix it for her somehow. Toying with the idea of sculpting a larger 'hat' and then just glueing all the nice detailed stuff back on?.....but I have enough to do as it is

But .... but .... buuuuu ....

I dont have a large head! Everyone else has a small head!!!!

*MM covers her eyes too... imagines bits of helmet splintering all over the room!*

Relax folks, I won't break it........<please don't break, please don't break>

Anyone have an alternative lid for sale? Fancy a swap?

My heads fine it will squash in it! It will be ok! If i pass out it will just be like the death schene in the film! I wonder if i got a skin head would it make a differance?

If it looks ok i can grin and bear it ... possibly. Did it look ok? The truth now man!!!

I did sand mine down inside (where it bothered me the most) then added the detachable padded lining - it helped without adding a lot of bulk. It's simply a layer of muslin over some padding that I quilted. I did use extra red silk from the veil on the inside part, so it kinda matches.

I may need to add another layer of padding on the forehead though as there is one spot that really pokes! I made the lining detachable so that I could set the helm down on something without worrying about it getting scratched up! Also, I can wash the lining! (Yes, the silk is washable )

Originally Posted by Langsuir666

My heads fine it will squash in it! It will be ok! If i pass out it will just be like the death schene in the film! I wonder if i got a skin head would it make a differance?

If it looks ok i can grin and bear it ... possibly. Did it look ok? The truth now man!!!

You didn't post a pic of yourself in it, we can't see you!

John saw me in it tho and he said it looked fine, i suspect he may have been fibbing tho so i didnt cry that it didnt fit haha! Im asking him for the truth here, with witnesses!!!! LOL

I know this is a silly question but maybe someone could measure their head who has a DCB lid and ill see if im just being a whiney girl!

Just post a daggone pic girl! It just barely fits me and I get a headache everytime. Don't worry about our measurements!

I would hehe!! But the helmet is at Johns house which is 110 miles away from me, ill post a pic on the week end when i go down to see him

Originally Posted by sl/tk8456

Relax folks, I won't break it........<please don't break, please don't break>

Anyone have an alternative lid for sale? Fancy a swap?

Can you cut it into 4 pieces with a Dremel, spread it out and re-fibreglass it making it bigger? I was thinking you could make a base slightly bigger than the size of her head you could lay the 4 pieces on, then do your fiberglass work, sand and paint.

Originally Posted by sl/tk8456

Yeah I'm thinking of this but it's sacrilege. The way it's made lends itself very well to doing this though. i.e. the lines that run along and across the lid
Just a shame to cut it up cos it's lovely.

BUT! We'll post some pictures up this weekend and then get your honest opinions on what it looks like. But what it looks like and how it feels maybe 2 different things

If it's not comfortable, that's no good. Honestly if you can do a good job of resizing it I hardly would think it's "sacrilege". And from talking to you recently via PM I would think with a little time and patience you could do it quite easy. Nobody wants to wear a uncomfortable costume, you might as well get her some TK armor then.

Ok plz excuse my face and what im wearing! LOL

Looks totally fine. It just hurts, I know. It looks big enough for you, you even have space next to your ear, so I wouldn't worry about moving the ears out. What hurts is the two pieces on the side that comes in, and that's something that you might not be able to help. Try a shoulder pad or something...Wow, you're lucky, you have tabs! All of mine fell off, they were fragile. He never gave me a hose either. Is your hose split down the center on the other side? I am wondering if it's just a tube to stick cable wires in.

Looks fine to me too! Yeah...it just hurts. Try attaching some thin padding to the exact spots that hurt the most - it'll help! Noticed that the right ear piece sticks out - just like mine!

ZIA - the hose on my helmet is just 1/2 a hose, split along the middle with foam and two wires holding it in place. You could easily get some at Home Depot and stick on your helmet!

MM - yeah, now that I think about it...I was hoping he would've pre-installed it into mine. I have some downstairs, and when we were in a mad rush for Dragon Con, he didn't have time to install it. I think I brought some to DCB when we went to visit him way back when and he said he already had some. The hose is from Home Depot or any other place like that but it's a plastic hose for hiding cableing. All the tabs broke off too. I had the first "test" helm.

Yeah, it does look good to me too. You even kinda have the Leeanna Walsman look with the bucket on.

ZIA ... couldn't you go the "cheap" route and just use some modeling clay to replace the tabs? At least until MonCal makes his helmet run?

Thanx for the feedback guys and for the compliment Penny!!

I still thought it sat far too high tho because im a fussy annoying perfectionist LOL!!

Luckily John went at it with a dremmel and took a few of the tight spots out and now it sits so much better!!! Im really happy with it now! Its amazing how much even 1cm will make a total differance to how you see something on yourself.

We are just going to do a bit of work on the brim and it will be perfect!!! SoooooooOoooooo HAPPY!!! I was thinking it was gonna be slice and dice for it LOL!!

Originally Posted by Zam I Am

nope, modeling clay doesn't stay.

Well, what I meant was make the tabs themselves out of the clay, baking them with the same type of metal fasteners as the original tabs, and then using the E6000 to stick them in place. Just avoiding having to make molds and casting stuff and all that....

Langsuir666: Yeah, I ended up dampening the brim and re-molding it a bit too, to reshape it. Glad you got it the helmet to fit more comfortably though! Also be sure to check the screws and such on the binocs, mine tend to come loose quite easily!

MM: true, but I reckon' they'll fall off again. Even as hopeful as I am about their permanency. I dunno~ That's not something that I am really really going to worry about at this point. I have other things on my costume that I am fixing right now. Most people aren't worried about the tabs as they are the other major parts. They don't seem to notice. Everyone's gaze straight for 1) blaster 2)helm's binocs 3) skirt 4) shoe spikes 5) front armor Eh- 4,5 seem to be tied. Most people's glances go head to toe.

Originally Posted by MaulMaus

Also be sure to check the screws and such on the binocs, mine tend to come loose quite easily!

MM i changed the screws over to nylon locking nuts for her as just 5 minutes fiddling ended up with the whole assembly coming lose in my hands. I thought there'd be tears but I quickly distracted her, so she never knew.....until now!
Screws changed, problem gone

Just need to try and find a way to put the whole assembly linked to a servo now.
I'd love to see that assembly move at the flick of a switch!

Originally Posted by sl/tk8456

MM i changed the screws over to nylon locking nuts for her as just 5 minutes fiddling ended up with the whole assembly coming lose in my hands. I thought there'd be tears but I quickly distracted her, so she never knew.....until now!

Oooppss... sorry! Didn't mean to blow that for you! Okay... I won't even ask HOW you distracted her... Yep, think I'm gonna follow your lead on that one though. I'm scared the whole thing is gonna fall apart in the middle of someplace it shouldn't and all the pieces are going to be all over the floor where I can't find them... etc.!

Did i mention ... I LOVE my helmet! I LOVE my helmet! I LOVE MY HELMET!!!!!!!!

Yeah actually when i was trying it on when i first got it, i tried to go upstairs in it to look in the mirror and when i got there id lost a bolt. I had to run back down looking over all the floors for it LOL *** i love my helmet!!!!!

So I guess those of us with big heads (lol) are just out of luck, huh?

You could always cut the helmet apart and put it back together larger. You might also be able to find a Judz Dwedd helmet...but don't count on that. I believe those helmets were bigger though.

:/ Darn my melon.

Otter, I stretched my DCB/MonCal helmet out with a hair dryer. I warmed it up, one side at a time, then jammed it on my head repeatedly and held it there until it cooled off. (Be careful, you can heat up fiberglass hot enough to scald your head.) I also dremelled out the front lip a bit.

Worked. Still gives me a headache wearing it longer than 7 hours, but I'm tuning it.

Deunan "Shiruba"

Originally Posted by Shiruba

Otter, I stretched my DCB/MonCal helmet out with a hair dryer. I warmed it up, one side at a time, then jammed it on my head repeatedly and held it there until it cooled off. (Be careful, you can heat up fiberglass hot enough to scald your head.) I also dremelled out the front lip a bit.

Worked. Still gives me a headache wearing it longer than 7 hours, but I'm tuning it.

Deunan "Shiruba"

Awesome, thanks for the tip!

My helmet was a disaster. The one I bought couldn't fit on my head. Then I went to a leather worker who attempted to do me one completely out of leather (minus the back piece and the ear muffs). It was huge. So of course we had to go back to the first one and try to shave more of the inside down. This 2 days before a very important event. In the end we managed to fit it on my head.

This is me with my friend, Jango72


Today me and my dad are going to try and get the piences for the bino unit and attempt to attach the binos. Does anyone know how to cut the Bushnell 10x25 (whatever they are) or have a top view of their helmet?

Thanks!

*DF* or now *ZAMber*
(not yet a member)

DF - you might try doing what Shiruba did - stretching the helmet out with a hairdryer. (A few posts above yours)

As far as how the binocs are cut apart... I thought DCB had made a mini-demo on it here. Did you do a search within the Zam threads? I seem to remember seeing a few pictures on it at one time. I didn't keep copies as I bought my complete helmet from him. (*sorry*) I do know that the armatures themselves are separate from the binocs - other than that... I just don't know.

Originally Posted by MonCal

I haven't been able to get to the helmet project as soon as I'd hoped. I've been a little backed up with other projects and orders but I will get to it soon cause I will need to replace my wifes helmet Please be patient with me and I will have some updates as soon as possible

thanks,

hi Moncal, I have just started looking for parts for my Zam uniform..so pleease put me on the list for a helmet too.

Regarsd//Therese

So, has anyone figured out how to make the binocs functional and if not, what do you recommend for securing the binocs to the top of the helmet so they don't fall off?

Originally Posted by MonCal

I just recently acquired DCB's helmet molds and should be able to offer some here in the future. I don't know details yet cause I need to finish some other projects and orders first ... but I will get to it as soon as I can. Do you have a deadline you're shooting for?

Hi, MonCal, I saw your old post from 2006 and I was wondering if you offer Zam helmets. I made one that is so not authentic. I just used it for my son's 6th birthday party and used whatever I found in the house, but I'm headed to C5 and wanted something a little more real.

Thanks,
ZamStar9

Originally Posted by Tonks

hi Moncal, I have just started looking for parts for my Zam uniform..so pleease put me on the list for a helmet too.

Regarsd//Therese

I'd be interested in a helmet, too, MonCal... whenever you get around to it. No rush - I've been collecting Zam bits for years and have yet to get started assembling!