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    Apr 8, 2007, 11:14 PM - Zam…The great undertaking. #1

    Maybe that title is the understatement of the year, but we (my wife, Aimee and I) are ready to begin.

    That’s just it; Where do we begin?

    Sorry – Almost forgot, this is my first post on TDH! Now for my introduction!

    I’m Tony Machalski. My wife (Aimee) and I live in Richmond, Virginia. We are both members of the 501st (Garrison Tyranus). I am a clean TK and she is a Jawa (DZ-1382). She’s always wanted to pursue a Zam, I always pushed for Boushh, but I lost! It seems thought the more and more I look into it, the more excited I am to get started on this with her!

    So any help is greatly appreciated! (So far Cal has already been a big help. He’s the one who nudged me over here! Thanks for all your help!)
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    Apr 8, 2007, 11:28 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #2

    Welcome to TDH! This is the place to start your Zam! My advice would be to start looking through the threads on this forum. There is lots of information available here and plenty of people who are happy to help! ZamIAm also has a great Zam site ( http://www.zamiam.com.

    Congrats on your new project!
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    Apr 9, 2007, 8:28 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #3

    Thanks for the quick reply! I've read a lot of these threads already before I posted. It's a lot to take in, but I just have to learn to pace myself.

    Should we try to buy the hard parts first and get those started first? Or maybe try our hand at the undersuit as a base and work our way out?

    Also, for the hard parts, like the chest plate and gauntlets, Aimee is 5'0" tall and think 115lbs. Is size going to matter? I don't want the pieces to be too large on her and not be able to moddify them.
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    Apr 9, 2007, 8:37 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #4

    Aimee is 5'0" tall and think 115lbs.
    Tony!
    Glad to see you officially made it to TDH. You are much more of a man than I am! I would NEVER have the guts to post Jean's weight on a message board. You should be happy though - Aimee is a keeper. (and a looker too!)

    I'm very interested to see how the Zam turns out. Especially now that we have our own Dengar in Garrison Tyranus - and my own Boba Fett (ROTJ) is coming together. BOUNTY HUNTERS ROCK!
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    Apr 9, 2007, 2:38 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #5

    Quote ItsThatGuy said: View Post
    Should we try to buy the hard parts first and get those started first? Or maybe try our hand at the undersuit as a base and work our way out?
    Some of the items are limited runs ... so if you want them, grab 'em while you can! Other parts are available more or less regularly. A lot of it, you just gotta do yourself! (As time and $$$ permit ) Since you already know MonCal (Our god of all things Zam! ) - he's probably the best "resource" around.

    Other than that, you just might want to find a part you're interested in starting with, and work your way down the list (and it's a loooooong list!!! !) Keep your eyes open on eBay or the Cargo Hold, etc. for things like the boots.
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    Apr 9, 2007, 2:39 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #6

    it's a long tough road...but im here to help anyway i can as well...good luck on the project
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    Apr 9, 2007, 2:57 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #7

    Thanks for all the input, folks! I am really excited to get this started!

    Just get ready for some stupid questions, because I will be throwing a bunch at you folks later on down the road! Cal- that means you will be seeing less e-mails from me for questions, but more e-mails for orders!

    Also I will keep everyone up-to-date with our progress.

    And BTW - John (TD-6829) stop eye-balling my wife! I know where you live!
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    Apr 10, 2007, 5:41 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #8

    Good luck with your Zam!

    It'll help that Aimee is so tiny...I haven't seen any overweight Zams on this site, but I have seen some very LARGE Zams on the internet, and I think it's really hard to get the costume to look right (and the skirt to hang right) on a very round person.

    I'm speaking from experience...I was too fat to begin with and haven't worn my Zam since I gained even more weight...the anime cosplayers say that the first rule is to pick a costume totally unsuited to your body type (LOL, but so often true! who cares....).....I want to wear Zam with the local troopers for Free Comic Book day and part of the costume upgrades has to be losing 50 pounds. Seriously....time to work out before my Jenny Craig breakfast.

    At her size, Aimee should look great in anything! And you won't have to buy as many yards of leather/fabric!
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    Apr 10, 2007, 6:45 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #9

    Welcome to the zam arena Tony!

    I am sure you can make it fit her fine. Kathy is 5'1" and although she is a little short, it still looks great on her and I made everything to scale rather than to "fit" her.
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    Apr 10, 2007, 8:56 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #10

    Man, I am really excited about getting all of this together! The great thing (for me) is it isn't one huge kit that all comes our at once. I never know where to begin, and I always try to do everything at once. This way I can give each section it's own deserved attention!

    OK guys and gals, I had this laying around and thought it might make a good "make-shift" Zam rifle. Obviously it will need a lot of work and is undersized, but it should make a good base.

    Ok be critical (I can handle it!)



    We were going to use this as a Jawa Ion blaster, but never got around to it. My parents got her a real nice replica for her birthday instead.


    Here's one for size comparison: Oh yeah, my wife was already settled in for the night, so she was in her PJ's while watching Idol!
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    Apr 11, 2007, 2:33 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #11

    That will definitely work. The original was a kentucky flintlock, which is pretty close and I am pretty sure you can still pick the replicas up .... but the barrel has to be cut up and lengthened anyway so yeah... that would definitely work!
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    Apr 11, 2007, 5:04 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #12

    Yeah dude that will work.

    If you need a hand making this please ask me anything, if you need it. I just made this baby for my other half, Langsuir666.
    Rubbish board name but she's got a cool rifle!







    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=16862
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    Apr 11, 2007, 8:41 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #13

    Awesome, Thanks for the offer! Actually I do have a question, how long is the blaster overall?

    I need to go get a new barrel for it first. Not sure where I am going to find a chrome one though.

    Also, I wanted to show you guys what I just bought tonight from eBay!


    Yep the real deal:


    I was hoping for brown, but I can always have these dyed.

    If anyone could post any images of thier completed boots it would be a big help!
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    Apr 12, 2007, 1:59 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #14

    Quote ItsThatGuy said: View Post
    Actually I do have a question, how long is the blaster overall?
    I'm assuming you mean the rifle? Somewhere in these threads is a link to a full life-sized picture of the rifle, taken from the Visual Dictionary and blown-up to the correct size. Do a search and you should find it.

    Yep... those be the boots you want! Congrats! I've only seen 1 set of brown ones (Langsuir666 has them... grrrr...) And nope... you can't dye them. Those boots will be forever black. I painted mine with leather paint and am pretty happy with how they turned out. I still don't have the purple pieces on them...those still have to be dyed and attached (somehow...).
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    Apr 12, 2007, 3:34 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #15

    Welcome to the Zammy fun!!!

    Hehehehe sorry MaulMaus - i dunno how i managed to end up with those Brown Boots, just very very lucky (sounds the same as how i ended up with sl/tk8456 tho i didnt get him off Ebay LOL )

    Your GF should look good in the pieces but even tho i am the same height as Zam was im still always looking at the pictures to see if my body proportions fit and ajusting the armor accordingly.

    Perfect example is with the rifle, now if your GF is 5 feet tall and the screen rifle is for example 5 feet 5 long (i dont know the actual length off the top of me head) which when upright reaches the screen Zams head. If you make your rifle screen acurate it will be too big for your girlfriend. Its up to you but i would scale the big stuff down to fit the person.
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    Apr 12, 2007, 4:18 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #16

    Quote Langsuir666 said: View Post
    If you make your rifle screen acurate it will be too big for your girlfriend. Its up to you but i would scale the big stuff down to fit the person.
    Yeah what she said. Becky is around the same height as our heroine but if she wasn't I would have insisted on cutting it down.
    TBH I don't know what Zam's movie rifle length is. I tend to look at photos and work out ratios of things. If you make it so the rifle extends about 6 inches or so above your GFs head it would look cool.

    Remember that the rifle butt will have a silver plate extended about 0.5 of an inch, so take that into account when measuring her up.

    The pipe we used was standard chrome plated copper plumbing pipe at 22mm. I need to check that though so hang on before you buy it. may have been 28mm? Whatever it was it just sat nicely in the flintlock stock

    It's normally used in bathrooms, that kind of thing
    Both pipes are bathroom plumbing actually. The lower one too

    PS: no problem on the help dude, please ask if needed. I'd help anyway but seen as your a clean TK too, I'd help twice
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    Apr 12, 2007, 11:33 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #17

    The boots can't be dyed? ::in my Vader voice:: 'NOOOOO!!!'
    Oh, well I can spray them or something...? I'll figure it out. If not no one but us will notice (I hope) . I will keep my eyes out for brown ones though. It will bug the heck out of me if they aren't brown...

    Ok so I did some measurements of the rifle toy that we have. I don't think it will work out.

    The rifle that we have is 3 feet tall. We can add the butt piece which would add about half and inch. Moving our way up we could add about 6 inches in the first gap, the second gap would be 4 inches and the barrel would extend out another 4 inches at the end. Adding 14.5 inches overall to the rifle; making it only 4'2" overall. About 10 inches too short. I just don't want it to be too disproportionate.

    Like I said it was more a make-shift kinda project, not shooting (no pun intended ) for 100% accuracy. Maybe one of these days we will get the flintlock and go for the real deal.
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    Apr 13, 2007, 1:12 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #18

    I believe the original boots were also black and painted. The TK boots were the same you know? .. black and painted white.

    I've painted about a dozen pairs of leather boots. Our zam boots turned out THE BEST out of all of them as a matter of fact. You need some leather deglazer to remove the sheen. Then I use nu-life leather paint brown. Spray your boots in about a dozen super thin layers of paint, letting it dry between each layer. If you get overzealous and spray too much at one time, it will crack. We weathered our boots initiall with some steel wool, sandpaper etc. but after a year of trooping, they looked perfect!!!

    As for the rifle, I have a bunch of reference pics from CIII. I didn't have a tape but I did have a duffel bag strap that I took a pic of with the rifle to figure the length.

    I'll do some checking and I can tell you pretty much how long the rifle is
    ...... sheesh..... I can't believe I haven't built this yet...... I've passed up about a dozen replica flintlocks and one original one..........

    here are a few teasers:






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    Apr 13, 2007, 1:34 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #19

    Well the "life-size" print out I'm working from is 5'0 (I think mine will end up being 5'1" once I get it all together - I'm okay with that). I've seen the replicas on eBay quite often, and for not too much money - so you might want to keep your eyes open if it's something you really want to work on right away.

    MonCal is right about the boots ... the originals were painted as well. You could see the paint flaking off at the FIDM exhibit. I didn't even know brown ones existed until Langsuir666 showed hers off!
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    Apr 13, 2007, 5:26 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #20

    There's a pair of brown ones on E-bay right now but they're too big for me...grrrrr. Size 40 European. I wrote to the seller and asked for the measurement of the sole toe-to-heel and the answer was 12 inches! Anyone out there with 12 inch feet?
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    Apr 13, 2007, 6:41 AM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #21

    Na. it was taller than her wasn't it?

    I'll measure the rifle we've doen tonight...if I remember

    Word of warning though, even though I had a kentucky flintlock the 3rd part of the stick was custom made from my mums broom handle.....sssh. I went back one weekend and stole it. He he

    The flintlock has a brass shim that hides the joint between the 2. So that's 2 pieces, the 3rd peice you have to make yourself. And it must fit the barrel and the supporting underbar.
    Great fun, LOL

    I've recently doen this so please feel free to pick my brains
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    Apr 13, 2007, 2:01 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #22

    Ok, now I don't feel so bad about the boots. I'm actually looking foward to it now. Does anyone have any pictures of the purple inserts on top of the boots?

    I saw the brown ones on eBay, but they are suede. Either way I will stick with the ones I have now.

    Thanks for the images of the rifle, Cal!
    I guess I will give the rifle another shot (really no pun inteded!). If I can't get the proportions correct, then I am not really going to worry too much about it. I'm not sure if she even wants the rifle...I never even asked her!

    We have an agreement. I will do all of the research and the building and take the credit for that. And she will end up with an awesome Zam, and she can take all of the credit for owning one of the coolest costumes in the Legion, and the coolest costume at any troop/even!

    That way no one steps on anyone's toes for making it one way or another. It was a great compromise.

    I really love building this stuff. It takes a lot of money, but I think it's well worth it!
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    Apr 13, 2007, 2:54 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #23

    If you can get a copy of the Reference CD, there are some good shots of the shoes.

    Basically they were pieces of purple leather (matching the vest as best I could tell) that were glued on top of the boots. You could also see where they were also coming unglued on the Ref CD and at FIDM. For some reason, there is also a double row of stitching just outside of the purple leather area (Why?) and up along the brown band on the center. (I'll see if I can get to posting the pic I'm thinking of later today.)

    Sounds like you've got a good arrangement there with your wife! My husband just looks at me and rolls his eyes...
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    Apr 13, 2007, 4:28 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #24

    The strap that I used for measureing the rifle was part of a camera bag that was stolen so I need to look around and find the measurement I have it written somewhere.

    As for the boots I believe the purple sections on top of the boot were actually cut out of the boot. Another layer of leather was sewn inside the boot to overlap the holes from underneath... thus the stitching. And then the purple leather was glued into those holes. I've wanted to have a cobbler do that for me and he quoted me $150 2 years ago but I've never gotten around to doing it.
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    Apr 13, 2007, 4:34 PM - Re: Zam…The great undertaking. #25

    Tony, Becky is 5ft 5 and the rifle we've made is 5ft 6.
    Barrel is 22mm

    I could cut an inch or two off but we're waiting for her to be kitted out totally. Lid on, shoes on before we cut it.

    I think it looks cool the way it is and my measurements were made on ratios of known lengths and proportions I worked out.

    I did that by dividing the length of the stock on the photo by the actual length of the Kentucky stock in my hand. Got the ratio and then went from there
    If that makes sense?

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