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    Mar 12, 2007, 1:57 PM - Tricot Neoprene top and pants patterning #1

    My seamstress made what she called ~ a crop top, where the arms were long sleeve, and it was cut high above the bustline. But it still had a hole for your neck.


    I was looking through patterns today. And, I found a free one for the top.This following pattern doesn't have a hole for the neck, but there are several ideas you can mimic. The following pattern is called a shrug. And although it doesn't have welt seams along the arm, you can get some ideas. What you only see of the top on zam is the arms and shoulders anyways. I would give more material inside the front shoulder area than this pattern, but you get the jist.

    http://fitzpatterns.myshopify.com/pr...sewing-pattern

    I am thinking of more of this (top left shrug), in pattern, but with longer sleeves: (be aware, this pattern is for a lacy top, not for tricot neoprene, I wouldn't know how the ease affects the rest of the pattern. )
    http://www.lanetzliving.net/inc/sdetail/22610

    Or this: http://www.lanetzliving.net/inc/sdetail/1056 with a shorter back and front cuts above the bustline.

    After posting this, I realized I should have posted this under KayDee's suggested patterns thread.
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    Mar 12, 2007, 3:16 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #2

    I may not completely be understanding what your seamstress made you, but it seems to me that the way to do this with the least amount of alterations is to make a regular long sleeved shirt but shorten the pattern pieces for the body of the shirt before cutting.......or am I way off base?
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    Mar 12, 2007, 3:20 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #3

    Something like this pattern and just shorten the body of the shirt??

    http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin...I=10004&page=5
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    Mar 12, 2007, 4:21 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #4

    Either way. I think that your alterations would be about the same. Actually the long sleeve shirt might be less to alter; But a shrug might save on neoprene. Not that you have anything to worry about, but just be careful how you lay out your patterning pieces to minimize yardage used. You don't want to just arbitrarily cut. You will have a little more than enough neoprene for everything, but it's nicer to be conservative if you can. Then again, the top that looks like a long sleeve shirt altered is a lot like mine, and I haven't had any problems with 'gathering" or things to tuck in. It seems a shrug could have that potential issue whereas, a longsleeve shirt might not.
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    Mar 12, 2007, 7:53 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #5

    I would suggest altering the long-sleeved t-shirt pattern. The shrug would be much more difficult to fit at the neckline, as you'd have to come up with your own neck band. Shrugs may or may not be sized for stretch fabrics - it makes a difference.

    One I picked out is New Look 6160 - which is sized for stretch knits.

    Another t-shirt pattern is from Pamela's Patterns #104: The Perfect T-shirt. It received great reviews in a sewing magazine I get. It looks to be much easier to alter for any particular body type.
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    Mar 13, 2007, 3:47 AM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #6

    Has anyone got an easy method for making those distinctive seams that Zam has?

    Ah, ignore this. Just seen another post.
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    Mar 13, 2007, 11:45 AM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #7

    Quote MaulMaus said: View Post
    I would suggest altering the long-sleeved t-shirt pattern. The shrug would be much more difficult to fit at the neckline, as you'd have to come up with your own neck band. Shrugs may or may not be sized for stretch fabrics - it makes a difference.

    One I picked out is New Look 6160 - which is sized for stretch knits.

    Another t-shirt pattern is from Pamela's Patterns #104: The Perfect T-shirt. It received great reviews in a sewing magazine I get. It looks to be much easier to alter for any particular body type.
    I only put a shrug out there for consideration because of this shot...


    If you have a longsleeve shirt cut high, it doesn't account for the angled cut. The neck hole isn't seen. But, the great part about a longsleeve is that we know it works for stretch fabrics, where we don't know if the shrug works for stretch fabrics, and no one except for the nitpicky sees the angled cut.

    Just putting another option out there.

    Oh, and the newlook 6160 seems to be better, because the plonging neckline on the other one is a no no. It would have barely or not enough fabric to go "over the bustline". We know for a fact that the shirt needs to be cut above her bust, not below.
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    Mar 13, 2007, 3:50 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #8

    It looks to me from that shot that the sewing line is still there above the angle cut. Just a shot in the dark but it looks like they sewed it and then for some reason cut out a section of the hem at an angle, but just to the sewing line. Maybe it was too bulky there....or perhaps something rubbed funny. It looks like an after thought because the seam edge in the angle isn't finished - it's just raw....or so it appears.
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    Mar 13, 2007, 8:33 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #9

    I know the #104 Perfect T-Shirt Pattern comes with a bunch of variations for fit including different sleeve lengths and necklines, so I assumed they had one for a higher neckline like in the NewLook 6160 (I haven't bought it so I can't say for sure.).

    I'm not really sure what we're looking at in that Photo ... is it angled towards the front or back on the left side? It does look like a raw edge there to me too, which would seem like an after thought or an on-the-fly type alteration.
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    Mar 13, 2007, 10:21 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #10

    MOM photos #Dsc04313 Wow it was staring me straight in the face, LEFT Armpit, I was thinking right armpit. But in anycase, we know that the cut off line is above the bustline. The left armpit angled cut is towards the back of the left side, which is a really really wierd after thought. Why would anyone care to have an angled cut on the back side, especially if there is a vest to cover it? Bust cuts are more understandable. Unless they dressed the mannequin wrong.
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    Mar 14, 2007, 12:09 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #11

    Gawd only knows what happens when they dress those mannequins up. As for the pattern you showed MaulMaus, it looks like that REALLY hideous flower number behind the other two is the closest with the regular t-shirt type neckline. Thanks for posting it....it's actually a really nice looking pattern for use as non-costume stuff too! I noticed they have a pattern for adjusting t-shirt that don't fit too......I don't know about you but I have a ton of 501st/Star Wars t-shirts that only came in a men's style and fit horrible. Thanks for pointing out this website....I may just have to pick that up!
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    Mar 14, 2007, 2:39 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #12

    Quote BFett333 said: View Post
    ... it looks like that REALLY hideous flower number behind the other two is the closest with the regular t-shirt type neckline..
    Yeah... it is pretty hideous.. It looked pretty close to me, and I'm assuming they have some more neckliine variations as well. I hoped you noticed as well that the same company also had a pattern JUST for fitting all those ridiculously sized 501st t-shirts stashed in your closet! That pattern also had a great review... I think I need to go buy some patterns 8)
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    Mar 14, 2007, 3:32 PM - Re: Tricot Neoprene top and pants #13

    LIKE I need any encouragement to buy anything sewing related....~snicker~

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