Cutest Sandgirl
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I'm not super anal about authenticity, but, if you have those eyelets and it's not too much trouble, I'd like some on mine.
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"Official" Zam holster is FINISHED! New picture!! 2/24
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Zam I Am
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Hey just some detailing that you might want to consider, By the way, I thought both those black gromlets were used to hold the holster onto the belt. Am I wrong? There are two lines on the holster before the top layer ends. I have highlighted what I mean.
http://www.printroom.com/ViewAlbum.asp?userid=ZamIAm&album_id=130096
http://www.printroom.com/ViewAlbum.asp?userid=ZamIAm&album_id=130096
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sith camaro
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Ah yes, good eye. I'll have to add the second set of lines.
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Zam I Am
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check out pic DSC04349, I think that the edge width might be a tad less thick. Do you know what i mean? I might be wrong cause of the angle the shot was taken, but you might wanna trim the left edge a tad? I would draw on more pics, but gotta go shopping...If you want, i will post later.
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Dustin Crops Boy
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i assumed the two "grommets" are actually the backs of black snaps - that simply hold the flap together.
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Zam I Am
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I finally realized what sith camaro meant by that "added" eyelet. I think that I started a chain reaction of misinterpretation. Sith_Camaro, you are going to have the two black grommlets and 1 eyelet for us finicky holster bearers, right? I think this is what he meant:
http://www.printroom.com/ViewAlbum.asp?userid=ZamIAm&album_id=130096
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sith camaro
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The "grommets" are actually the backs of two black snaps. The other side of the snap is on the very top of the holster flap. It loops over the belt, and snaps to that area right above the opening.
I'm guessing since there's an eyelet at the top of the opening there, there may quite possibly be a second, lower on the backside of the holster. There's no way for us to see, but I might add a second one, just for locis'd sake.
The "smooth side" that you see is there to cover the suede side of the leather.
Basically, the holster body is one large piece of leather, folded over on the front side. When you do this, you have the suede side showing where you see the "grommets" (snaps), they glued a second piece to make that area look a little cleaner.
I'll make a second, more final, prototype, this will have everything that should be on there. Before I glue another one together, I want to be able to dye the leather so the rubber cement won't seal any of the leather surface away from the dye. Maybe another 2 weeks or so. Again, just waiting for that jumpsuit sample, to have a physical color to compare it to. I'm going to have to do some dye mixing to get the right shade of purple.
I'm guessing since there's an eyelet at the top of the opening there, there may quite possibly be a second, lower on the backside of the holster. There's no way for us to see, but I might add a second one, just for locis'd sake.
The "smooth side" that you see is there to cover the suede side of the leather.
Basically, the holster body is one large piece of leather, folded over on the front side. When you do this, you have the suede side showing where you see the "grommets" (snaps), they glued a second piece to make that area look a little cleaner.
I'll make a second, more final, prototype, this will have everything that should be on there. Before I glue another one together, I want to be able to dye the leather so the rubber cement won't seal any of the leather surface away from the dye. Maybe another 2 weeks or so. Again, just waiting for that jumpsuit sample, to have a physical color to compare it to. I'm going to have to do some dye mixing to get the right shade of purple.
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Zam I Am
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Ya, sorry this bodysuit prototype is taking so long, the darned dyeing company may have held us up another three business days. Dag nabbit.
But, in anycase, I thought it was just a dark brown leather with some purple paint tones on the very edges of the strips and where the glue is. Therefore, I didnt think that purp dye was needed. Then again, I have never dyed leather, so I dont know how just brown coloring would look. Or, if purple dye is actually needed then. So I may not know what the h-e- double hockey sticks that I'm talking about...
But, in anycase, I thought it was just a dark brown leather with some purple paint tones on the very edges of the strips and where the glue is. Therefore, I didnt think that purp dye was needed. Then again, I have never dyed leather, so I dont know how just brown coloring would look. Or, if purple dye is actually needed then. So I may not know what the h-e- double hockey sticks that I'm talking about...
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Hi everybody. Been lurking around for a while.
Sith_Camaro:
Some comments:
Looks good. Need to take a look at the following things:
1. Dye before you glue. Otherwise, the glue that gets pushed out onto the exposed surface will not allow the dye to take.
2. It gets narrower at the bottom than you have it.
3. I do not know how you could possibly get this close enough without a gun to size it to. And wetforming the holster is a must. This it what gets the pistol to go back into the same spot everytime as opposed to pushing it in and allowing slop to take it where it will. I've made Aurra's holsters (Much more complicated) and Zam's and I can tell you that they need to be wetformed.
4. I remember noting that if I ever remade the holster, the horizontal detail straps appeared to pierce the holster more like straps than gluements.
5. The back edge is sewn.
Here's the holster I made before Dallas took the book of photos in Aussieland:
And here is my Aurra Sing (with holster pair):
So I'm not just a hack.
Dan (The Wookie)
Sith_Camaro:
Some comments:
Looks good. Need to take a look at the following things:
1. Dye before you glue. Otherwise, the glue that gets pushed out onto the exposed surface will not allow the dye to take.
2. It gets narrower at the bottom than you have it.
3. I do not know how you could possibly get this close enough without a gun to size it to. And wetforming the holster is a must. This it what gets the pistol to go back into the same spot everytime as opposed to pushing it in and allowing slop to take it where it will. I've made Aurra's holsters (Much more complicated) and Zam's and I can tell you that they need to be wetformed.
4. I remember noting that if I ever remade the holster, the horizontal detail straps appeared to pierce the holster more like straps than gluements.
5. The back edge is sewn.
Here's the holster I made before Dallas took the book of photos in Aussieland:
And here is my Aurra Sing (with holster pair):
So I'm not just a hack.
Dan (The Wookie)
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Zam I Am
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I don't know much about wetforming. Is that why wookie strips look more smooth on the edges than the MOM pics? And, does the main body of the holster really need wetforming? Does that just make the holster have a smoother look? What does wetforming actually do as opposed to just glueing the thing together?
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No. I glued my pieces together except for the sewn edge. Leather is a very versatile material. If you get it drenching wet and the pull it onto a form, when the material dries, it will hold the form. Hence, you wet the holster down, shove the gun in and let the beast dry. When you finish, there is a nice internal pocket for the pistol. If you've ever ice skated, the reason bought skates fit better than rentals is that when you wear them a few times, they wetform to your feet (provided they are leather innards).
Holsters that are made for a particular purpose, such as a police holster, will be made so that they slop fit (usually). A handmade holster will nearly always be wetformed to the gun.
Holsters that are made for a particular purpose, such as a police holster, will be made so that they slop fit (usually). A handmade holster will nearly always be wetformed to the gun.
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sith camaro
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Yeah, wetforming is pretty cool. I did the same for my Jango holsters, and my Padme pouches:
Unfortunatley, I don't have a Zam gun. But I did get the diameter of the tip of the gun. So I can take you're idea Zam, and use the piece of PVC pipe to simulate the gun then I make it.
Unfortunatley, I don't have a Zam gun. But I did get the diameter of the tip of the gun. So I can take you're idea Zam, and use the piece of PVC pipe to simulate the gun then I make it.
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sith camaro
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Those are my painted Padme arena battle pouches.
Well....not MINE, but a set I made for someone.
Well....not MINE, but a set I made for someone.
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Zam I Am
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Oh! that's neat
If you do use the pvc idea, then you will get a better feeling about the pattern too. ie, the angle at the top of the holster. Oh, and the width on the trim on the side where everything gets glued together.
Anyone have a shot with her blaster in the holster? Wanted to know how tightly the blaster held with that igniter pin and trigger that sticks out.
If you do use the pvc idea, then you will get a better feeling about the pattern too. ie, the angle at the top of the holster. Oh, and the width on the trim on the side where everything gets glued together.
Anyone have a shot with her blaster in the holster? Wanted to know how tightly the blaster held with that igniter pin and trigger that sticks out.
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sith camaro
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Al-rightie. Got a couple new tools today, and I sat down and re-vamped the decorated portion of the holster, AND put in that second outline that I had previously missed.
Don't mind the drips of dye on there...
And, if anyone really wants to get fancy, I could make some faux stitching in the grooves. It wouldn't be film accurate, but I just like this new little tool I bought!
Don't mind the drips of dye on there...
And, if anyone really wants to get fancy, I could make some faux stitching in the grooves. It wouldn't be film accurate, but I just like this new little tool I bought!
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