Neoprene under suit-second batch?

I'm good with whatever method the masses need. I'm not going to be working on the undersuit right away so it's not as much as a rush for me as it might be for those who want it before C4.

Honestly, I think I might prefer priority mail with insurance. I don't need it in a rush, but if for some crazy reason it gets lost in the mail I'd want to be covered for my $225 dollars. I know anything over 50 dollar value of insurance requires a signature, but that is OK by me.

I'm willing to pay for priority and insurance. I'd rather be covered as well

I don't know if this applies to me but I'd pay for insurance to the good ol' U of K too

Insurance is a must. That's how I lost mucho $$ cause the last time I lost a shipment, and it wasn't either of us' fault, but I gave him back his $$ anyway. I even had a friend try to track it down. The question is more for parcel post vs. priority.

I'd say priority since that's supposed to have a little faster delivery time. The less time it's in the system the less chance there'll hopefully be of something happening to one of the packages. It'll be a pretty penny either way cause of the weight. How heavy are you estimating the packages will be, ZIA? 20+ lbs since you're saying shipping will be in the $21-$34 range?

What shipping method was used last time?

Would it be cheaper to ship through UPS or Fedex considering the weight?

Whatever's cheapest, I'm not in a hurry

Originally Posted by Zam I Am

Nope, 12 lbs. You have to realize, it's a LONG box 6"x6"x72" That's what is throwing everything off. Also, the usps has changed it's shipping in that the cheapest "mailing" is only allotted for media. They now cornering everything else and hike up the price.

UPS- I checked the pricing. It is about $5.00 less, but truthfully, I won't ship through them because it's all the way across town. As it is, I have to make several trips because I own a dinky 4 door car with no trunkspace. I don't have a truck and I now have a child taking up a carseat. So, sorry, I can't save you guys anymore cash other than the choice of parcel post vs. priority.

Ah, okay. I was wondering if it was the weight or the box itself that was bumping the shipping price. 20lb did seem a bit much when comparing the price range you estimated with Usps' rate charts, heh.

IMO, a $5 difference is no biggie if using UPS would be a hassle for you.

Originally Posted by Zam I Am

arg, list open again, i need one more slot filled. Bounty hunters hunt 'em down! I also put someone's name twice on my excel sheet ::embarrassed Sigh.

Are you still one short? Should I ask Maggie at Padawan's guide if she'd mind putting the word out in her news section?

I posted the run on a couple of forums, hope we get another person if needed

thanks !

I have someone who is interested in the run Zam I Am. Im just filing them in with the details, they have joined on TDH but cant post for 24 hours so have asked me to register interest on their behalf.

So we may very well have the last person for the run

Need all the info. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Resilient

Ah, okay. I was wondering if it was the weight or the box itself that was bumping the shipping price. 20lb did seem a bit much when comparing the price range you estimated with Usps' rate charts, heh.

This was my exact thought about the box which is why I asked if UPS or FedEx had been checked. I have no idea how much this could weight.
Don't make this any more work for yourself to save us $5.00. I'm good with that. I remember the small car and kids, that's why after the second we bought a mini-van

Hi Zam I Am

My names Anne and I saw Langsuirs666 post on one of the forums and would like to fill your last space if there still is one. I've been wanting to start a Zam for ages and am hoping now I finally can I am in the UK as well. I was in such a rush I haven't had chance to read the rest of the forum to catch up on all the details so I'll do that over this weekend.

This looks like a great site, I hope to drop in more often. Thanks to Langsuir666 for posting up on my forum.

If it's a goer I better start dieting and going to the gym to look good in the costume but as I am a novice at these things I may have more than enough time for that LOL

Anne

oops double post

Payment sent.

Ta for doing this

John

priority shipping

My e-mail flagged you as spam. :P I PMed you my info. Also, we'll pay by check if that's okay.

Julie

Hi ZIA, my email is the one you have... is fully funtional, receiving emails everyday... please, try it again if you need it !!! . I pm it again to avoid problems

My baby is sick, havent sent out the corrected amounts out yet.

Awww.....hope your little one is feeling better soon!

Hope he feels better quick!

Let's know when you are ready for payment

Awwww get well soon lil baba!

I think I have a grip on their percentages. It's 3.9 % +.3 actually for crossing the border, not a standard. UGH. Still recalculating guys. I need to make sure I ain't short changed because of their continuous percentage loop. TK8456 you were the "lab rat" so to speak in doing this. I got shortchanged, cause I didn't read all their "fees." :rollseyes Not your fault, but it made me have to recalculate everything. I will figure this out as soon as possible. I am almost getting everything right on the excel sheet. Sorry, lots of shipping changes. Go figure, I should have paid more attention to the stipulations. Wow talk about fine print. Like I said, if you are domestic US participants and want to pay by check / money order /western union instead, then you won't have to pay the paypal fees and can use total 1 or total 2. The fees are ranging from $7-$19.00? Those across the border are paying more via paypal, but it's cheaper than some other fees. If you are definately paying by check/money order and listed as paypal before, please email me so I don't have to fool with the algebra to get the paypal figures right. My brain hurts. If you need my address, lmk. You should get a second email with all the paypal corrections soon. If you already told me you were paying by check, then, you won't get an email (unless there was a address correction.)

Unless you've already finished my amount please don't give yourself any more headaches.
I can send a check out ASAP if you want to PM me your address.
This sounds like far more work than it should be.
If you've already done the math than I'll paypal so it's not done in vain.

Originally Posted by Zam I Am

....TK8456 you were the "lab rat" so to speak in doing this......

I've been called many things over the years but never a "lab rat"
How dare you!

Hope it's all sorted now, also that your little one is better and your head doesn't hurt so much

Originally Posted by sl/tk8456

I've been called many things over the years but never a "lab rat"
How dare you!

Sorry! How about a stupendous and accountable safety net that embellished my excell spreadsheet many times over...

Originally Posted by sl/tk8456

Hope it's all sorted now, also that your little one is better and your head doesn't hurt so much

Ya, I think I just gave my headache to you. Sorry dude. Little one has a nasty virus. And I should be upstairs sleeping right now it's 4:15 am I am officially nuts.

PAYPAL SENT

C'mon guys.-.. Payment day !! we have to keep this rolling !!!

Ben.

I will post paid on the first page of this thread for those who have paid, as soon as it clears the bank. Some people's $$ can't clear the bank until 8 working days. Just to let you all know. I know that I emphasised paypal by debit, but because I changed to a premier account, I can accept credit card payments now. So, if anyone wants to use their credit card instead, don't let that stop you.

Originally Posted by Benkenove

PAYPAL SENT

C'mon guys.-.. Payment day !! we have to keep this rolling !!!

Ben.

Me too.. paypal away
let's get this zam fabric a rollin'

Paypal'ed. Great to see things moving along. Thanks for all the work you've put into this run, ZIA.

Check is in the mail

Due date for payments to clear the bank is Jan 29th. Please make sure you have enough funds, I don't want to receive a bad check and have to boot someone off or push back dates. Mid-april is the expected ship date. Sorry for those who want it before CIV (May 24) - a one month pressure to get everything sewn /done.

Originally Posted by Zam I Am

Due date for payments to clear the bank is Jan 29th. Please make sure you have enough funds

Understood! The money is there.

I mailed my check yesterday morning...

I've paid. I changed it to PayPal Credit Card if thats ok, as it was the quickest and easiest way for me.

Anne

info is
Screenname
Real Name
Address:
Ship to: Address
Email Address
Payment method
I then will send you an email with all the costs including paypal fees, S&H, etc.

How come Raul / droidcollector is on there twice? The bolt that I'm paying for is actually for him. Is he getting 2 on his own plus the one I'm getting for him?

Moncal, you will have to talk to him about it.

Replaced the last questionable person without info. Sorry, but I tried my best to get in contact with that person several times via pm's and even posting to another board that their friends may have frequented. No luck, so I had to boot that person. Terribly sorry, but deadlines need to be met and the last time that person got in touch with me was 12/16/06 and without the full info.
Spot replaced. And hopefully I can close the list now. No more people that can't commit, right? Speak via pm now or forever hold your peace. I need the transactions to happen straight away.

Somewhat annoyed... The bank takes 5 business days to clear a check if it's from someone outside of my state. I thought it would have been three days, that's why I waited till today to deposit most of them. They said it wouldn't be until Friday, February 2nd that they would clear, as Saturday doesn't count as a business day. I can't put in the order till stuff clears. Sorry guys. And I am waiting on one check that could push the date back further.

Well, for what it's worth, I can guarantee you that my check will clear. Absolutely. No doubt about it. If that helps any, which it probably doesn't. Oh, well.

Stupid banks, anyway.

The banks tell us that they need those days to "clear" the check... the reallity is that they USE our money THOSE DAYS... and the money produce for them !!! they get a lot of profits with our money in those few days...

MONKEY BUSSINESS !!! what a **** !!!

Waiting on one person! Hopefully the PO's can be faxed this week! The banks cleared stuff today!

Excellent!! WE can finally get this baby rollin'

YAY! All paid up, I will call into the 1st manufacturer tomorrow, and hopefully get the first PO faxed.

Woohoo!!!!! :thumbup

Yippee!!! Thanks so much for all your hard work on this, ZIA!!

S W E E T !!! Great work ZIA, . God bless you

Thanks for all of your work, ZIA!

Thanks, ZIA! :thumbup

At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have neoprene.

Originally Posted by Zamovar

Thanks, ZIA! :thumbup

At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have neoprene.

Too bad they don't have the rolley smiley icon anymore...
Oh, and all calls/faxes/PO's went through, the dyeing process will happen next week.

Yeah!!

A non-issue, but just to let you know, it won't be royal blue nylon backing, but black instead, which is more screen accurate. I thought I posted it somewhere, but can't find that post/email. Just FYI. Oh, and the neoprene company has the material for processing at the moment. (So, it's already been dyed).

Thanks for the update!
And thanks so much for doing this. I can never day that enough.

Thanks for the update, really nice to hear some news ...

About the backing nylon... umm.. black instead blue... that's amazing !!! that is something I had thought in the past, but I didnt want to put more pressure onto this , but I really really prefer it in black !!! SO, even more amazing !!!

Thanks ZIA for everything.

Oh man!, sorry, he messed up the order, he was looking off of the first po and did everything in royal blue, what a PAIN!

Excuse me cause I didnt understood your last post (my poor english), so they are mking it in royal blue ??? instead of black ???

Since your "special instruction" requests weren't honored on an order that the supplier agreed to and that you payed for, shouldn't they have to do it over again rather than you need to grin and bear it?

I agree that seems messed up. They should have to do it again or give you a discount.

Originally Posted by Resilient

Since your "special instruction" requests weren't honored on an order that the supplier agreed to and that you payed for, shouldn't they have to do it over again rather than you need to grin and bear it?

I would have to strongly agree.

Absolutely. It's their fault. You stand your ground and get what you ordered. That's the way of business.

Well, what can I do? the supplied lycra was custom dyed from a different company. I can't spend the extra time and my own $$ to have the custom dye job done yet again. They can't unglue and re-laminate something that's been perma-glued together.

Sorry im confused - what have they done blue? LOL I think because ive just got up my brain hasnt switched on yet

Hmmm.. that is a pickle isn't it? If they had an agreement to make it one way and they messed up the fabric wouldn't it be their responsibility and expense? .. on the other hand if it's just blue on the underneath that's not really a big deal.

I also agree, it's their fault, so they should take care of it... if they ruin any material, shouldnt they solve the problem ???

I really dont understand it... If you said you want it black, and with other special instructions YOU ARE PAYING FOR... and they simply do what they want, and not your instructions ??? something is going wrong there... !!! ... I really dont understand it... (not talking about You, but about them !!! ).

If its just that its blue on the underneath im presonally not that fussed, is rather just get the neoprene sooner and have it blue rather than pay again, wait again and have black on the underneath. I think you should push for some money off due to their mistake though, they cant get away with it scott free

Originally Posted by Langsuir666

If its just that its blue on the underneath im presonally not that fussed, is rather just get the neoprene sooner and have it blue rather than pay again, wait again and have black on the underneath. I think you should push for some money off due to their mistake though, they cant get away with it scott free

Yeah.. that might be the way to go. It would take to long to wait for another batch too. Also, the old batch was blue underneath and I didn't have a problem with it.

Yes yes... I'm also agree with that... I would really prefer it in black, BUT if there is no way... there is no way... .

What I would do is what others here have told... ask them for a compensation for THEIR mistake !!! (because is their fault !!! ).

As long as the public facing side is cool, all is cool. No one will really see the black/blue side so I'm sure it'll be cool.
But.............
I'd go with what you have but try and get a refund/discount. It's nice of you to take this order on so keep mine and buy yourself something nice for all the hassle

Could the blue side be dyed black by us somehow?

Try and 'blag' them by saying it'll cost "you" to have it made black, make up some rubbish about why it MUST be black LOL, and get a partial refund/discount. After all it is what you ordered.

If you ordered a new car and you said you wanted it black and it was blue, what would you do?

You'd kick butt wouldn't you?. Kick butt baby!!!!

Was the black color in the original order instructions or was that something that just came into play when the guy apparently was reading the wrong order form? Either way, the color difference doesn't bug me since it's not the visible side, but what did sound bothersome is that ZIA mentioned that they might have lopped 4" worth of material off. It sounds like a partial refund/discount is in order on their part in either case if that cut did happen since that was expensive material they were supplied with.

Thanks for the support 'yall. I am in discussions with them right now about it. Will let you know how it turns out.

Good luck ZIA! We are thinking of you

Originally Posted by Resilient

Either way, the color difference doesn't bug me since it's not the visible side, but what did sound bothersome is that ZIA mentioned that they might have lopped 4" worth of material off. It sounds like a partial refund/discount is in order on their part in either case if that cut did happen since that was expensive material they were supplied with.

Agreed. It is really the principle..and it doesn't hurt to ask.

We all appreciate your work, ZIA!

Ah. The color of the neoprene doesn't matter, I don't think since it isn't seen. (I had been expecting it to be blue like the 1st run anyway.) Your post had made it sound like things had gone rather wrong and that things were cut off that shouldn't have been etc.

What special requests didn't get followed then since I take it the trimming was supposed to happen? Just the color difference?

Trimming was NOT to happen, The nylon backing color was supposed to be black.

Originally Posted by Zam I Am

Trimming was NOT to happen, The nylon backing color was supposed to be black.

I misread your response to me with the trimming then, my bad.

Hopefully talking with them about those things turns out well. Thanks for all your work with this run and for dealing with them.

Sorry, to clarify, I wanted them to have the lycra at 64" width hanging over the side, over top of the neoprene. Neoprene and nylon were going to be 60" regardless. So why they trimmed the over hanging lycra baffled me. This was even how the old purchase went through; to look like this (measurements in pic are from the old batch); So, it would have had a 4" overhang or be 2 inches on each side of the nylon, if fabric was centered.

That does sound strange. I wonder why they lopped that off. I guess as long as there's enough to make each suit, then it's all good. The blue underneath is fine too. Nobody sees that anyway.

BUT.. I still think you should tell them you're not happy if they made changes after the agreement, get a refund, and go buy yourself something .. so keep the extra dough for yourself!!!

Exactly !!! There is a lot of money involve here, so everything must be like they promised... no more no less, that is why they are getting paid for... dont you think so ?

Originally Posted by Zam I Am

If I sent you all an extra yard of just plain same colored lycra, would that suffice for the overhang or giving it a nicer "finish"?

Don't be silly! If I need extra lycra, I can buy it myself.

It's completely up to you how you want to manage your relationship with this company - if, in the interest of future dealings, you aren't comfortable demanding a refund, that is fine with me. However, you shouldn't incur any extra expense fixing their mistake!

K

Originally Posted by kimncris

However, you shouldn't incur any extra expense fixing their mistake!
K

Yes, yeeessss! Don't do that. That's just daft.

Oh, after all your posts, I am definitely going to demand something, just want to know what figures I am dealing with before I give them exacting figures of what they owe me or how. There has to be fair accounting for customer satisfaction on my end and your end. I want to make sure that I am straight with you all first too and that you guys are completely satisfied with 60" width x 5 yrds of tricot custom dyed lycra , neoprene, with blue nylon backing. I wanted to make sure and solid, that I in no way mislead you guys with any of the posts, and you will have what you need and there are no change in terms. On my end of course, yes, I do want to continue a working relationship with them just "incase." But moreso, I want to know so that I can start sending out the material and you're 100% satisfied with what you are getting and there is no misinformation from my end on product recieved.

I'm sorry, but the bottom line is that if what was printed in the contract was not adhered to, then it is THEIR mistake and THEY should redo the order to YOUR specifications.

By demanding that they comply with what was agreed to should in no way damage any business relationship...in fact, THEY should be bending over backwards to make YOU happy since its their mistake.

My two cents!

Todd