Neoprene under suit-second batch?

okay...well in simple terms...all i was illustrating was the actual color of the zam costume...which by the way is what I would want anyway...is way to light compared to what is seen on screen. folks that have only seen the movie and are not so over the top into things as some of us can be would have an imediate reaction of.."if that is supposed to be that bounty hunter from episode 2 then that is the way wrong color"...

like i said...im all for the color choice you have decided on...if i wasnt i wouldnt even request to be on the fabric list...it was just an observation. I know it was my first reaction until i researched things too and know what the color really is.

thanks for all the hard work that you have done on researching this to get it right BTW
 
Sigh, Lamination didn't go well. He had 1 yard of lycra to deal with on the second trial and he put it through the machine by holding it, not using the pressure roller (there wasnt enough materialto put it through.) So, the whole thing just wrinkled up. I just lost $40 or more bucks worth of material. He said he didn't have enough yardage to run it through without wrinkles for a prototype. He said it would've worked if he did have a 10 yrd sample. :rolleyes :eek: Right, like that's going to happen. I will decide tomorrow what I should do.
 
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So what do you need for the sample? A 10yd sample of plain lycra? If you can get the material - Everyone on the list could all paypal you a percentage. Or you tack on the price to the material itself if the Paypal is a hassle. No reason you should pay for it all!
 
I caught a cold~ feeling miserable today. I will have to decide what to do tomorrow or when he sends me the material. I told him to send me the wrinkled mess, I figured, all I need is one foot of material to sew a welt seam. He wasn't inclined to send it. The problemo~ white lycra undyed may not have the same finish as the dyed stuff. So, if bonding it were to occur, I would need the dyed stuff. Every time I dye something it costs a lot.
 
Wow.....just trying to keep up here so I can get in on the next order if possible and I can't BELIEVE your dedication to this project. It's amazing and I know that I certainly appreciate all your hard work and frustration! I hope the cold gets better soon!
 
Thanks, Yvonne. I would also be willing to help pay a bit extra to get you another sample to work with.

(also, I subscribed to this thread long ago but just realized based on your comments that I never receive any updates - wonder if my spam filter is stopping them?)

Kim
 
I'm happy to kick in a few bucks for the sample test too.... Especially considering if we can get the double to work, it should be cheaper than the triple layer, and will cost me -a LOT less in terms of buying a new sewing machine!

Julie
 
Thanks, Yvonne. I would also be willing to help pay a bit extra to get you another sample to work with.

(also, I subscribed to this thread long ago but just realized based on your comments that I never receive any updates - wonder if my spam filter is stopping them?)

Kim

Check your outhouse box~ Deleted/Junk folder? :)
I don't know. Something to email DCB or other mods about. Let me see if I can get that 1 ft of fabric ~how be it wrinkled. If that worked out ok, then I will save us all from lots more expenditures. Dyeing something always costs mucho money. So, we really don't want to go there if we don't have to. I will update as soon as I recieve it.

I also took the liberty of changing the inner color to black instead of the old royal blue. I just thought it would be more in "keeping with the real thing."
 
Wow.....just trying to keep up here so I can get in on the next order if possible and I can't BELIEVE your dedication to this project. It's amazing and I know that I certainly appreciate all your hard work and frustration! I hope the cold gets better soon!

well ive decided that i costume for the appreciation of myself and the fans that see me...therefore i will have to reluctantly say..for fear of being acosted and strung up by those that are so hard core on things that IMO its rather silly, that I will be using an alternate method of construction for the suit as well as using colors that i feel represent the image of zam more..thanks for the offer ZIA, but i dont want my zam to look like barney..will go my own route

BFett333 You've just taken JDFett's place. Is that ok? You pm'ed me earlier about wanting to get on the list. If there is an issue, pm me.

If anyone else has an issue with color from the prior run, post a link to a color with that they think most fits. Don't just copy a pic, please crop a 1 to 2 inch square of your thoughts on what's the best "purple" into the following thread.
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?p=205374#post205374

Thanks BFett333 for all your encouragement and appreciation. And MaulMaus, thank you for being a real friend.
 
Sorry I have to change things around on everyone, but GREAT NEWS! I got the fabric back and although the lamination didn't work out evenly on the small run, you could tell that it would work for a larger one. I want to send out swatches to everyone on the list PLEASE PM me with your address if you have a :confused by your name. Those with a sewing machine try a welt seam, and I will post picks soon of the "folds" in the arms. Unfortuneately, i only have a really small amount to give everyone, cause the only salvagable part was really small. I am undecided about the people who want to risk heat exhaustion and going through sewing nightmares, wanting real neoprene as aposed to the double fabric. But in either case, hey, remember to give me your emails, addy and form of payment so that this will run smoother. (only those on the list) I can't post prices yet until I have consensus on certain things. MaulMaus- you'll get a swatch too, since you saw everything at FIDM. We need your imput.
 
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I can see if I can put a welt seam into the fabric myself before sending it out. It may save everyone time. Anyone know of a good sewing link I can follow for welt seams? Also, I haven't posted pics yet, can't seem to get a time in from hubby to hold it so that he can snap a pic.
 
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This should help some .... Simplicity Seam Basics I still use my trusy Vogue Sewing Book more than anything! I'll see if I can get the page scanned and email it to you tonight or tomorrow morning ZIA!

Basically you just sew a plain seam where you want it to be then press it to one side, trim the bottom layer back to 1/4" and sew the parallell seam 5/8" or wherever you want the seam to be. Ideally you should only sew through 2 layers of fabric, the outside layer and the one layer of the seam allowance.
 
Ok, looking at some of the pics in comparison, sigh, I don't know, in some pics, it looks like double fabric, in others it looks definately like neoprene, because of the bulkyness. What do you guys think? Pull out all your pics folks. Your MOM ref pics too, and compare. I can't for the life of me decide.

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PLEASE those who signed up buy that have :confused by your names PLEASE give me your info... I don't want to goto the post office 5 times just to send swatches out.
 
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Is that the double?!?! That looks AWESOME.

It seems to wrinkle at the arm more like the screen-used stuff than like the first neoprene run, and there's a lot more bulk in that welt than I got with my straight lycra.

I love it. thanks for the pics, ZIA.
 

:confused Zam&Jango
:confused Goldenrod
:confused Foernakate
:confused RudyDarthG
:confusedVader674

You guys are holding us up. Please gimme your info so that I can send out the swatches please! I have pm'ed you all twice. I have yet to find my sliver of the old batch for comparison to send along with the double fabric for your thickness opinions. I've been searching and searching...Arg! I have swatches all over the place, but can't find the swatch of the first run yet. Once I can get a consensus on people's opinion on double fabric vs. neoprene production, then two things will happen, the list will reopen for a week, then close, and final decisions on how the batch will go and cost, and then I will accept payment. And then the run will happen, with probably about a 2 1/2 month turn around time.
 
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Arg! No response, if any of you guys know the people above, please let them know I am searching for their response. Thanks! I don't want to drag out this ordering. As, any zammers wanting to get their stuff done before CIV will have it really rough. PLEASE respond soon. I am considering going neoprene with this batch but letting everyone have a yard of the double fabric for the welted inner thigh, if you choose to use it. That way, everyone would be "covered." And ~ not have to worry about industrial sewing machines for this one suit.
 
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