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  1. #76

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    Yeah, I'm that friend, but even if you're willing to sell a pair, how much would it cost and are you sure that they'll fit on everyone?

  2. #77

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    Thanks for the interest! I haven't decided on a finished estimate yet because I still haven't worked on the weathering, etc. Most of the cost will be for materials as they're not really cheap. I can figure an estimate for them in kit form though.
    Yes, they can and will fit just about anyone. They're flexible and I can adjust them for overlap. I will need a measurement though. As in the pics below, I'll need a measurement around the lower calf at 9 1/2" up from the heel as marked by the piece of masking tape on her leg :




    As you can see, my wife's lower calf measures 12" around. I mainly need this measurement to ensure enough room for overlap and if I need to pour extensions on the guard.

    Please send me a pm to discuss more details


    cal
    Last edited by MonCal; Jan 20, 2005 at 7:39 PM.

  3. #78

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    (hello,
    thanks for your reply i didn't saw your pictures of your progress work but i have a new internet connection and i must say WOW! i measured my girlfriend's leg and she has the same size so that's perfect.
    my friend Gaeriel comes with measures soon.

    thanks jeroen&saskia.

  4. #79

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    I'm about the same size, just over 12,6"

  5. #80

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    BTW, all, Moncal's shins are sooo cool. They are NOT made outta fiberglass really... The material he is using is perfect for putting it on and taking it off the leg. It's not rigid like vacuumformed plastic. You'd all be amazed. In hotter weather it is more flexible, and cooler weather, it's a tad more rigid. BUT! it keeps it's memory and doesnt ever lose details i.e. those rounded joint parts at the base of the shin. I must say, superb sculpt, and his anklegaurds are also just as awesome. He even made it longer on one side. There is a right side and left side anklegaurd. I didn't even notice till I got em. Really good eye there matee
    I wrapped my own leather with glue and I put my own styrene top "lip edge" on his gaurds, cause I didn't want to feel around, poking myself to get the "lip" effect by the leather only like Moncal did. Both methods work, his might be a tad nicer when it comes to overlapping leather problems at the very tip top angle point below the knee. My pieces of leather, actually from Dallas, was really stretchy, and that helps, especially when glueing down things and trying to eliminate bubbles and also becuase the shell is rounded, but with different widths. If it was perfectly cylindrical, you could achieve perfect and easy glueing, but shin shells aren't, so the leather being stretchy helps out tremendously. I also learned to start glueing from the front center out, otherwise, you could run out of leather.
    Now, when you wear them, you should consider going to the fabric store and getting adequate foam for the inside of the shin. This is needed to lift the shin up a little, because the top of your ankle will hurt like the dickens with styrene and the shins digging into the top of your ankle. Comfort first, those joints do move, but don't stay, so, foam it somehow ESPECIALLY if you do a parade or con or something.
    Moncal , way up for the shins!

  6. #81

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    Thanks for the positive review Yvonne!!

    I'm really happy they worked out well for you. You were pretty much the trial run on these things And any advice for improvements or mods is very much appreciated!!!

    I don't know for sure yet but I doubt they'll dig into a persons' ankles with the regular prada boot underneath since it goes up the leg a ways. Also, I bet if I drill the hole out a little more for the bolt that holds the ankle guards on and the nylon locking nut is used but not tightened down completely, they'll move more freely. Also, maybe putting a cloth spacer between the two might help..( remember seeing that in one of the MOM pics).
    Wish I could get our suit done and put it to practical use so I would know for sure

    thanks again,
    Cal


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    What are the metalic round circles in the back of Zam's shinguards and over the ankles? They look like brass fasteners, similar to those below.

    <img src=http://images.officemax.com/images/kreb_large/09015442.GIF>

    Would these work? And what are the fasteners for, really? Me wanting to save as much money as possible is looking for inexpensive solutions

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    Awesome thread!

  9. #84

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    Raef_Wolfe wrote:

    What are the metalic round circles in the back of Zam's shinguards and over the ankles? They look like brass fasteners, similar to those below.
    Well, the shin guard actually overlaps itself in the back and snaps together with typical dritz snaps...found at tandy. The plastic allows this with its flexiblity. It is rigid but also flexible at the same time unlike typical vac-formed ABS or even fiberglass.
    There are screws on the sides of the guards that bolt the shin guard to the ankle guard.

    Seeker, thanks!!

    BTW,
    I am back home, although things are still chaotic I have been making some progress



  10. #85

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    Finally able to make more progress. Apologies to those patiently awaiting completion!!







    EDIT 12/11/03:
    Here are some pics with the flash....quite the color change still blurry on the net though




    Edit 1/20/05: fixin pics
    Last edited by MonCal; Jan 20, 2005 at 7:53 PM.

  11. #86

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    WOW Big color difference there. So which one is it more like? The leather color of the top more-red, or bottom pic-more lavender?

    VERRY excellent resilient shins btw. I still think they are sooo awesome. Especially cause you picked out the right casting materials. I hear troopers complain all the time about breaking/cracking pieces of their costume. I have no remorse when the shins I have from ya, take a beating. My remorse comes from everything else I've have that isn't shatter proof and I have wound up with MORE putty and MORE paint on everything. I spend more time on repairs than on upgrades. Nothing likes to just stay resilient cept for your shins! I think I have lost my toe spikes the most~ 2-3 times already.

    Keep up the great work!

    Yvonne


  12. #87

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    Zam I Am wrote:

    WOW Big color difference there. So which one is it more like? The leather color of the top more-red, or bottom pic-more lavender?

    Thanks zamiam! I'm glad you're still happy with them.

    Well, the real color is closer to the top 5 pics which is the lighter color and closer to the pics in the Visual Dictionary. I just thought I'd show the pics with the flash to show how much variation there can be with different lighting


  13. #88

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    Just fixin pics

  14. #89

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    Oops found the right thread now! yay. What sort of glue did you guys use to glue the leather down with onto the shins? Im gonna try these this week Were we using the skins for the veil on this or dyed skivers?

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    if i remember correctly cal stated he had some alternative method for the shins...cal? any luck on that

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    Righty dokey! I just enquired about some sheepskin skivers for the shins, what dye did you use to dye them with Moncal? I thought about using the back of the veil pigskin but its not the right color and ive spend a month getting the front the right color LOL

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    These shin guards are nothing short of AMAZING. Fantastic work.

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    Great job! Very impressive

  19. #94

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    Ok scratch getting the skivers They want 44 for one 12 foot skin for me to dye myself and im not paying that!!!

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    Langsuir666 said: View Post
    Ok scratch getting the skivers They want 44 for one 12 foot skin for me to dye myself and im not paying that!!!
    12 feet? Do you even need that much for the shins?

  21. #96

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    They will only sell it in whole skins which is approx 12 feet Im not sure how much we need

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    That is pure awesomness

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    becky, i know at the tandy i went to they had some real cheap pigskins...6 dollars a piece...thats whay i used to make the test pattern for our vest...the leather is a little dark but they had some lighter stuff as well...if your going to paint the shins rather than dye i bet that stuff would work and its real thin and inexpensive...some pieces have some bad spots on them but if your going for the worn and weary zam...then that shouldnt be an issue

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    Tandy didn't sell the skivers last time I tried to get some. I think the cheap stuff you're talking about is way too thick (it looked like that from photos of the vest).

    Well... one alternative is the Vogue leather pelts http://www.voguefabricsstore.com/sto...p-1-c-296.html The skins are very very thin (and soft!) and would work well for covering the shin guards. You would need one skin per shin guard (I measured on mine and it would work fine.).

    The only issue might be color - the "Dusty Lavender" that I had bought was a bit dark - I don't know about the regular "Lavender" as I never bought any. I bought a "natural" one recently, but it was suede on both sides (much more on one than the other) You could dye it the color you want - but it wouldn't look as shiny as you might want.

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    MaulMaus said: View Post
    Tandy didn't sell the skivers last time I tried to get some. I think the cheap stuff you're talking about is way too thick (it looked like that from photos of the vest).

    Well... one alternative is the Vogue leather pelts http://www.voguefabricsstore.com/sto...p-1-c-296.html The skins are very very thin (and soft!) and would work well for covering the shin guards. You would need one skin per shin guard (I measured on mine and it would work fine.).

    The only issue might be color - the "Dusty Lavender" that I had bought was a bit dark - I don't know about the regular "Lavender" as I never bought any. I bought a "natural" one recently, but it was suede on both sides (much more on one than the other) You could dye it the color you want - but it wouldn't look as shiny as you might want.
    So was the Dusty Lavender one shiny on one side? Or suede on both like the natural?

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