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    May 22, 2008, 1:52 PM - Italica Zam #1

    Started on a Zam for my wife. Found some neoprene for the suit, just need evrything else. Will keep up posts with progress. Nice to meet everyone. CIAO
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    May 22, 2008, 8:32 PM - Re: Italica Zam #2

    Welcome to TDH Launchpad! There's plenty of information here about how and where to find stuff for that Zam! Don't be afraid to ask questions either. We've all been there before. We're all looking forward to seeing your progress pics too!
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    Jun 11, 2008, 4:33 PM - Zam Skirt... #3

    Having trouble accessing the skirt sticky. Locks up every time. Has any one made a count and a few good pics would be nice. A template, sizes of the squares, anything???? Just looking for another link that won't lock me up. THX Mathew
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    Jun 11, 2008, 7:00 PM - Re: Italica Zam #4

    Hmmm.. I don't know why it would lock up on you. I just tried and accessed it just fine. It's a very long thread - so it might just take some time to load.

    You can look at a pic of my skirt in my photo album if you want.

    Lemme see if I can condense 3 pages into one post... 15 columns and 12 or 13 rows. All skirt squares is about 2 1/4" tall (there is about a 1/4" overlap for each row). They get wider as they go down. This is what I have for widths on mine... (I have 13 rows)

    2 Rows: #1: 1 3/8"
    1 Row: #2: 1 5/8"
    2 Rows: #3: 1 3/4"
    1 Row: #4: 1 7/8"
    2 Rows: #5: 2"
    2 Rows: #6: 2 1/8"
    3 Row: #7: 2 1/4"

    If you still can't read that thread, I'll have to upload some of the pictures and post them separate. We don't have a template per se, but we do have some guides for how to make it.

    If you still can't access that thread, let me know.
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    Jun 12, 2008, 3:48 AM - Re: Italica Zam #5

    Thanks for taking the time to do that for me! The internet here in Northern Italy is only 2 mbps... God I miss the states and cable internet and from what I here, that's fast compared to the rest of Italy at only 500 bps. At least we get to come home in October I think it is the long thread. Most threads load just fine, but it's the long ones and the ones with pics. If you have any more spare time, I would love more info on the skirt. Thank you again Mathew PS OH YEA How do you start the stitching? and where? I've got some good pics, but no clue.
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    Jun 12, 2008, 4:33 AM - Re: Italica Zam #6

    Quote Launchpad said: View Post
    The internet here in Northern Italy is only 2 mbps... God I miss the states and cable internet and from what I here, that's fast compared to the rest of Italy at only 500 bps.

    In italy the normal internet speed is ADSL 7 mps (like in my house) and for who want pay more there is also the 20 mps (DSL) and the optical fiber.

    Sorry for the small offtopic
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    Jun 12, 2008, 6:53 AM - Re: Italica Zam #7

    Quote Launchpad said: View Post
    If you have any more spare time, I would love more info on the skirt.
    What kind of info are you after?

    Me and Becky made hers - eventually, but we didn't go on previous advise as the leather strap would have been too wide

    Our thread is here. We tried to document as much as we could
    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=16862

    I used a solderring iron to make the holes. Just get a screwdriver type blade for it and push through. Dont leave it in too long as it'll mark the squares
    After a while you can do 2-3 at a time

    Any help just ask john.danter@btinternet.com
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    Jun 12, 2008, 12:21 PM - Re: Italica Zam #8

    Hmmm.. when I lived in Germany we had faster internet than here in the states. Though now my cable is faster than what they have... so go figure.

    No problemo... Later this afternoon (Arizona time ... just to confuse you ) I'll post it either in this thread or another more appropriate thread - but with a direct link from here. Now... this is assuming that when the cable company comes here later today to upgrade my tv-cable to digital cable they won't royally screw up and murder my computer cable. In which case I'll also be on dial-up ...
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    Jun 12, 2008, 7:22 PM - Re: Italica Zam #9

    Okay ... here are some of the basics...

    This is a "pattern" of the skirt as ZamIAm made it. Please note that the length of the skirt squares are WRONG They should be 2 1/4" at least. If your wife is more than say 5'7" tall - you'll need to adjust the length of the skirt accordingly - so it fits from the waist to the back of the knee (each square has about a 1/4" overlap)



    Here's a picture for how we came up with the square count for the skirt. Also handy to see how it's put together.



    This is a close-up of the corner edge of the skirt that I took at the FIDM exhibit in LA a couple of years ago. It shows how the lace stitching.



    Here's a graphic of the main lacing of the skirt made by DustinCropsBoy:



    And the matching graphic for the edges of the skirt:



    I have to add that when I did the lacing on my skirt... I started on the bottom and laced up the toward the top on each row, leaving the extra lace at the top for tying off. It was easier for me. Also.. don't be alarmed when the columns fold together - they eventually flatten out.

    I put all these graphics onto printouts for my own use when I was making the skirt... along with some other pictures I have. I made those into PDF's if you want to download them.



    That's a thumbnail of the first one. The file is large at 1.5 Mb (lots of pics) You can download it here: http://www.dmeb2.org/images/zamskirt_pics.pdf


    This is the second PDF:



    File Size is 570Kb. You can download it here: http://www.dmeb2.org/images/zamskirt2_info.pdf

    Hope all this helps...
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    Jun 12, 2008, 7:32 PM - Re: Italica Zam #10

    We made our skirt 12x15 but its funny cuz the DAG book says the skirt is 12x14.
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    Jun 12, 2008, 9:40 PM - Re: Italica Zam #11

    DAG? Is that Dressing a Galaxy? Mine doesn't say anything about it... It only has that flaring skirt picture - but much darker.
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    Jun 12, 2008, 9:55 PM - Re: Italica Zam #12

    Yes, Page 133, the paragraph starting "Another costume which called for considerable..." on the 11th line down it says "twelve rows with fourteen columns."
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    Jun 13, 2008, 1:38 AM - Re: Italica Zam #13

    *slaps self on forehead* Yep... there it is! That's what I get for rushing to look through something before I eat dinner! *low bloodsugar* Yeah..that's it... Just ask some of my friends how bad I am with that...

    Well... I'm going with the picture before the text. And I'm also going with what will work for me based off that picture, meaning if I need 1 more row/column to cover the same area as the "real" Zam, then I'll add it. Nobody is going to count the squares anyway - erm... except us of course
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    Jun 13, 2008, 2:05 AM - Re: Italica Zam #14

    I agree with you and your picture clearly shows 15 columns so perhaps there were a few different versions or its just a misprint?
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    Jun 13, 2008, 4:22 AM - Re: Italica Zam #15

    MM, loving those pdfs

    Could I be cheeky and ask you for a copy when the time comes? We're havinga revamp of costume tutorials on the UKG site and no doubt Becky maybe asked to help out with Zam. She'd mention it's your work of course
    No probs if you say no. I hate theives too
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    Jun 13, 2008, 5:24 AM - Re: Italica Zam #16

    WOW!! I guess I should ask more often! Thanks for all the excellent info! That will work! So is purchasing the puncher for the holes the best or using the soldering iron method mentioned. I guess it doesn't matter right, cause you wnt see them and should look worn anyway. Talk to you all later. Mathew
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    Jun 13, 2008, 12:55 PM - Re: Italica Zam #17

    Hmm... John, let me PM you regarding the PDF's. In general I don't have a problem, I just have one concern which I don't want to weigh this thread down with.

    Launchpad: Well... I used the puncher and it worked great. Sore hands...thought I might lose my mind punching all those little holes... but it worked great. I only made a couple of mistakes *see low bloodsugar coment above* I don't know about the soldering iron method - I didn't try it. If you already have one... why not give it a whirl. Otherwise - I'd buy the hole-punch. Just my 2 credits.

    Someday...when I have time I want to get all this Zam stuff put into a more accessible order. Real life just seems to get in the way...
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    Jun 13, 2008, 6:13 PM - Re: Italica Zam #18

    We just used the soldering iron and a file as the punch was very expensive and not widely avaliable in the UK. In fact it was near impossible to find, in the end i think we found one for about $70 and i wasnt paying that for a hand punch LOL
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    Jul 9, 2008, 3:46 AM - Re: Italica Zam #19

    Will post pics as soon as I get the $%#@ thing to work right, but the leather skirt is together. WOW what a peice of work. Not sure if I would have done that for anyone else but my wife. It looks awesome though. Still need to be a little more... maybe a layer of light lilac color over the whole thing. Still looks cool. Working on posting pix. Ciao
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    Jul 9, 2008, 5:08 AM - Re: Italica Zam #20

    Finally got the camera to download. Here is the progress on the skirt:

    and the back side(sticks hold the skirt flat while hanging)

    What do you think about the overall colors? I think it all needs a light coating of purple. Will post more soon.
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    Jul 9, 2008, 5:12 AM - Re: Italica Zam #21

    Never cut or dyed leather before, so this was a first for me.
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    Jul 9, 2008, 9:44 AM - Re: Italica Zam #22

    Wow, it came out preety nice if you ask a non-Zammer like me! The skirts look like way to much work for my non-working mind.
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    Jul 9, 2008, 10:28 AM - Re: Italica Zam #23

    Great Job!
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    Jul 9, 2008, 3:35 PM - Re: Italica Zam #24

    That looks GREAT!!!! Gorgeous!!! Colors look spot on if you ask me! Nicely mixed up too! Yes... it is a pain in the butt - isn't it! True love... making a Zam skirt for your wife! Looking forward to seeing the rest of the costume!

    Love the idea with the skewers to keep it flat too! Wish I had thought of that!
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    Jul 10, 2008, 2:05 PM - Re: Italica Zam #25

    She looks cool to me A light shade or purple now would only darken it over all now TBH

    I enjoyed making the skirt with Becky. Hope you did too

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