How my wonderful husband made my moon shaped piece

I'm finally getting around to posting info on how I did some of the different aspects of my costume - I hope it doesn't sound presumptuous - just wanted to make sure I am giving back since I got so much from this forum!

Cris sculpted the moon shaped piece and hanging thingies from ren-shape. The renshape is fragile so he then molded them and made resin casts.

Here is a pic of my finished one next to a resin cast:


As you can see, the finished shape of the hanging parts is a bit different from the resin cast. This is due to the method used to hang them. We didn't want to cut the resin to fit the different pieces together so Cris 1) cut the top out of the circle - this left the top in a "U" shape 2) he put a wood screw vertically into each of the arms of the "U"; 3) he attached a wire to one screw, threaded the wire through the hole in the moon shaped piece, and then attached it to the second screw 4) he then used bondo to cover the screws and wire. We didn't take progress shots (our bad) so here is a drawing of what it looked like:


The original casting had a flat back on the hanging pieces. The new casting you see in the first pic above has two "half-casts" of the hanging pieces placed back to back. We are working on an easier way to hang them - maybe by sandwiching something between the two pieces. We are also wanting to use a method that retains more of the shape of the original resin pieces.

To attach everything together, Cris used a piece of aluminum bent in a hook shape. He screwed the little moon shaped piece into the aluminum (black arrow) and then used two screws to attach the larger moon-shaped piece (white arrow). The piece then just hooks over the top of the cumberbund:


I painted it using the same technique I used on everything else: flat back primer, Testor's silver spray paint. Weathered with watered down black Glossies acrylic paint brushed on and then sponged off. Here is what it looks like on the costume (The Boba is Boba Max and the Jango is Steve from Richies Armor):


Hopefully that made sense - feel free to PM me or post here if you have questions!

Kim

Those are some real nice pics. FANTASTIC COSTUMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Kim? What are you using for the jumpsuit in that picture?

That jumpsuit is a cotton lycra piece that I had custom made by renaissancedancewear.com

It took about a month's turnaround time and cost approximately $200.

Kim

Kim, PM sent.

-Austin

whoah! all of our pictures are gone!

I'll have to re-upload them

In the mean time- here is some progress we have made on upgrading Kim's hanging parts to the double sided ones.

Instead of the screw and wire method, I poured half of the mold laying flat, and then stuck some bent wire into the wet resin. (simulated here



then after it solidified, I put the other half of the mold on, and poured the rest of the resin around the wire and filling in the reverse side.



Now we can just bend the wire through the moon piece, and cover with propoxy or bondo etc and paint! This was alot easier than the previous method.





-cris

well I guess I cant edit the original post- so here are the images that used to be up there. (edit 9-18, photo.net no longer allows remote linking I guess)

-cris







and go here if you still need that old diagram, (It's really big!)

http://www.myalphastation.com/cris/z...ng_drawing.jpg








-cris

What did you guys use to make the molds out of for the resin? I've sculpted a couple of pieces and I'd like to make molds of them and use resin, I'm just not sure what to use for the actual mold. The only molding I've done has been with clay and plaster and I don't think that'll work well for this.
Thanks!

~ Kat

Kat,

In the pics above, you can see the blue silicone-RTV that we use. We get it from FX Solution (www.fxsolution.net). The kind we get is called 1065. The 1065 is very durable and is therefore good if you want to get multiple pieces out of a mold. It is somewhat difficult to measure as it requires a 10-1 ratio of silicone to catalyst. The 1065 is $135 for a gallon of silicone plus a bottle of catalyst.

You can get a similar kind from MicroMark that isn't quite as durable but is very easy to measure (it requires a 1-1 mixture). It is item #82083 and costs $26.95 for two quarts.

MicroMark also sells an almost two-quart kit of high-tear resistance silicone. We've not tried because we use enough to justify purchasing the gallon from FX Solution. If you don't need a whole gallon though...

There are lots of other places to get silicone too but these are the ones that we've used and have personal experience with.

Kim & Cris

Hey cris... i thought RTV meant Room Temprature Vulcanization.. meaning, no catalyst was needed to make it harden (like silicone caulking).. i could be wrong though... i often am

also... many people use GI-1000 silicone as it's very durable, long lasting and somewhate easy to work with. I think it's a bit cheaper then what cris was mentioning - at about $80/gal. But this is also a 10:1 mix (by weight). Get yourself a triple beam balance (the kind you prolly used in science class and all the druggie kids wanted to steal - - you can get em cheap off eBay.).

Some people may tell you that you need an air chamber to remove the trapped air bubbles - but i ave never had a problem with tis. The trick is to pour it onto the item being cast in a small stream - to let the air escape. The cure time is 24 hours -so you have plenty of time to pour it

They sell this silicone online at Vagabond but you may find it at a local industrial supply place where you live - and save on shipping (yeah!)

Another good source for RTV and Resin is smoothon.com. Great prices and great service. They have a technical staff that can help you decide what to order. They even called me one day after an order to tell me that my order might be wrong because of the combination of stuff I was ordering. I had actually ordered the right stuff because the two things I was ordering were for two different projects but it made me glad to know they were looking out for me and not just pushing stuff out the door.

HMMM, maybe you are right. I always refer to it as RTV because that's what they called it in the micromark catalog. However, I do know that the room temperature part just means that it does not require extreme HEAT to cure. Just mix in the catalyst and wait. Our's cures in about 4 hours on a warm if you get the mix right. (longer if it's chilly out, you under catalyze or do not mix it thoroughly.)

I have heard lots of people recommend the GI 1000 stuff, but since we have no experience ordering or using it, I didn't think it would be much help.

I do not have a whole lot of molding experience in general, so I am not an expert on prices or techniques. If there are lower cost supplies out there- I'm on it! We got this particular kind because we knew someone who had lots of success with it, and we could go drive and pick it up the same day (bonus getting ready for Comicon!)

If anyone else has any good advice, please chime in!

-cris

Originally Posted by mando25

i raised this from the dead. jeez! the last post was 4 YEARS AGO!

Does that make you feel special?

Don't resurrect threads... and don't do it on purpose.

for your information, yes. why do you care? man. I'm deleting that pm you sent me. i will NEVER talk to you again. Admin staff, last post was 4 years ago, and if its ok with migrate from as you wish, delete this thread.

Originally Posted by mando25

for your information, yes. why do you care? man. I'm deleting that pm you sent me. i will NEVER talk to you again. Admin staff, last post was 4 years ago, and if its ok with migrate from as you wish, delete this thread.

What are you talking about? I never sent you a PM, so don't try to make me look bad.

You basically posted bragging about bringing the thread back, which isn't right.

Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

What are you talking about? I never sent you a PM, so don't try to make me look bad.

You basically posted bragging about bringing the thread back, which isn't right.

hahaha wow

Originally Posted by mando25

for your information, yes. why do you care? man. I'm deleting that pm you sent me. i will NEVER talk to you again. Admin staff, last post was 4 years ago, and if its ok with migrate from as you wish, delete this thread.

hahahahahahahaha

dont bring threads back, its not funny, nor cool so dont bother, some people already do that here

and he probably didnt even send you a PM, your just trying to get people on your side hahahaha

YOU SO DID! remember this?! "hi, i saw you on the forums and thought you could use some help on building your coustume. my aim is GCNgamer128.good luck!" SEE?! I WAS TELLING THE TRUTH! and dont lie and say "nuh, i never sent you that gosh" if you do, its a LIE.

Originally Posted by Cylrul Pbz

hahahahahahahaha

dont bring threads back, its not funny, nor cool so dont bother, some people already do that here

and he probably didnt even send you a PM, your just trying to get people on your side hahahaha

THAT IS NOT TRUE! do you think i would lie?!

And did you copy and paste that PM "I sent you?" I always type grammatically correct, and hit space bar twice after each period. It is blatantly obvious that you typed that yourself.

Grow up and act like a real Mandalorian.

Originally Posted by mando25

YOU SO DID! remember this?! "hi, i saw you on the forums and thought you could use some help on building your coustume. my aim is GCNgamer128.good luck!" SEE?! I WAS TELLING THE TRUTH! and dont lie and say "nuh, i never sent you that gosh" if you do, its a LIE.

a 10 yr. old could have wrote that, wow, honestly you are trying way too hard

Originally Posted by mando25

THAT IS NOT TRUE! do you think i would lie?!

why wouldnt I?
GCN is respected here, and has a costume, you bring up old threads...i would believe GCN

wow...i mean is this for real?

Mando, you realize that you technically are supposed to have consent from a parent to join this board. So act like you could quite possibly mature sometime soon. This little act is quite ridiculous. Just to up a thread to be "cute", isn't. It's dictated from the CoC as Trolling

Originally Posted by TDH Code of Conduct

A "troll" refers to a member who does not contribute to discussions in a meaningful way, and may in fact post messages merely for his or her own amusement, or to insult, annoy, or anger another member or group of members. Trolling is prohibited.

Not only have you annoyed 2 members, and probably the Admin as well with your Thread Resurrection, but the blantant Flaming and Baiting of GCNgamer. So again, lets resort back to the CoC:

Originally Posted by TDH Code of Conduct

A "flame war" refers to "flaming," the practice of posting messages to a topic for the express purpose of criticizing, insulting, or otherwise attacking another member or group of members. Flaming and flame wars are prohibited.

So, just to recap, you have Resurrected a dead thread, only for you're mere amusement, but then personally attacked GCNgamer, and then pretty much have wrote libel (which in quick summary Lamen's terms is typing something about someone that is false). So technically you have in one dead thread you raised have Trolled, Flammed, and typed libel about someone. 3 Offenses. So 3 strikes your out? I think you need to apologize for the falsities and step away from the keyboard. Take a deep breath, and when you are mature enough to contribute in a faction that is coexistant to the Code of Conduct, we will welcome you back.

ok. "gay thread" wasent needed. ok,im sorry. the pm was written by memory. dont say you never sent it. well, you can belive youself on anything you want. ill leave this thread, and just post for anwsers. ill edit my first post.

Originally Posted by mando25

ok. "gay thread" wasent needed. ok,im sorry. the pm was written by memory. dont say you never sent it. well, you can belive youself on anything you want. ill leave this thread, and just post for anwsers. ill edit my first post.

he didnt pm you, deal with it

i know he did. theres no use in saying that. the argument is over, i said i was sorry, so that wasent needed anyways.

Originally Posted by mando25

i know he did. theres no use in saying that. the argument is over, i said i was sorry, so that wasent needed anyways.

Originally Posted by mando25

i know he did. theres no use in saying that. the argument is over, i said i was sorry, so that wasent needed anyways.

even though you are young, you are like those kids on computer games, who when you call them a noob, they respond with

"what was taht>???? no i am not gay like you! haha this guy is gay"

thats exactly waht you tried with GCN, and it didnt work, he didnt PM you, and the fake PM you made up made him sound nice anyways, so either way it didnt work

Well since this argument is continuing, why does it matter about the PM anyway? If you wanted to make me look bad about PMing you, you should have made me sound like a jerk, instead you made me sound helpful and caring.

it dosent anymore. im done, im sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. im done. i really dont want to argue, so can we just stop? and make up? if no, than i dont care if someone bans me. ill just be done and quit coustuming.again, im sorry!

You don't have to quit costuming. Just watch your attitude and respect your fellow board members.

alright man, it is done, lets let it go, but please, just stop upping dead threads. Alright?

Originally Posted by mando25

it dosent anymore. im done, im sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. im done. i really dont want to argue, so can we just stop? and make up? if no, than i dont care if someone bans me. ill just be done and quit coustuming.again, im sorry!

cool with that

ok. but if i forget and do, ill edit. still mad at pennywise though. whats it mean?

Originally Posted by mando25

ok. but if i forget and do, ill edit. still mad at pennywise though. whats it mean?

why are you mad at pennywise?

look at his last post.

"congatulations on your GAY THREAD!"

makes no sense. its not my thread.

Originally Posted by mando25

look at his last post.

"congatulations on your GAY THREAD!"

makes no sense. its not my thread.

someone BAN him...


shut up dude, seriously, your 10 yrs old trying to get attention, i felt bad at first, now i just dont care, either stop posting on threads like this just to be annoying or leave already, show some respect

holy crud! nobody gives me respect or listens to me because im only 10! its annoying!so just LEAVE ME ALONE!

Originally Posted by mando25

holy crud! nobody gives me respect or listens to me because im only 10! its annoying!so just LEAVE ME ALONE!

Your age has nothing to do with it, it is your maturity that is the problem here.

Originally Posted by mando25

holy crud! nobody gives me respect or listens to me because im only 10! its annoying!so just LEAVE ME ALONE!

no its because your annoying and dont show respect

its not because of your age at all

its your character

Originally Posted by mando25

holy crud! nobody gives me respect or listens to me because im only 10! its annoying!so just LEAVE ME ALONE!

Originally Posted by Ripcode

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally Posted by Ripcode

Now that, ladies and gentleman, IS FUNNY!

that kid needs to shut up. i really hope he is actually 10 because he is acting like it

Originally Posted by CombatBaby

that kid needs to shut up. i really hope he is actually 10 because he is acting like it

Ouch Be nice

Originally Posted by pennywise

Ouch Be nice

he is ten, he even said it, but its ok for him to be ten, but hes not respectful, i wasnt like that when i was 10

that kid is sayin "LEAVE" to me, when i am not annoying people!

The best we can do is ignore that childish, and let this thread die again... let's keep the hot threads up, and forget about threads like this...

(and the mods will do whatever they think they have to do with him... .

Is really sad when you see a thread UP, and you enter thinking that you are going to hear good news... and you see something like this... really bad done kid.

Originally Posted by Benkenove

The best we can do is ignore that childish, and let this thread die again... let's keep the hot threads up, and forget about threads like this...

(and the mods will do whatever they think they have to do with him... .

Is really sad when you see a thread UP, and you enter thinking that you are going to hear good news... and you see something like this... really bad done kid.

lettin it die now...

RESPECT MY AUTHORITY!

Originally Posted by mando25

Admin staff, last post was 4 years ago, and if its ok with migrate from as you wish, delete this thread.

I think I'm going to change my login name to "Migrate from As You Wish".

C'mon guys... let's help to let this thread die, please... and let's come back to the actual Zam threads