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Rub n Buff help!

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    Rub n Buff help!

    Hi there,

    can anyone help with any tips on RNB'G,I've practiced on a shoulder piece,and it's buffed up quite nicely,but the finish seems to tarnish and leave finger prints on the armour when handled!...is this normal,or does it eventualy dry thoroughly,I did leave it around a hour after buffing it before i touched the armour part,it's just that I wanna start on a helmet soon,and with the amount of handing the helmet will have,it'll end up looking terrible?.

    Also if you slightly drag your nail across the finished part you've RNB'D it leaves a slight scratch,it seems the finish remains quite soft!.

    Sorry for being niave about his stuff,I just wanna get it right!

    Any help will be great!.

    many thanks.

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    I've been trying to get Seeker to share some pointers for about 2 years now... maybe we can get him to give us some advice? I do o.k. with rub n buff but not as good as some of the folks here.

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    You might want to try Model Masters (Metalizer Lacquer) lot no# (1451- Aluminum Plate) You can get this at your local Hobby Store (havn't seen it anywhere else) I used it on my rocket for my ROTJ JP. It looks great and shines up really nicely, I almost didn't want to scar my rocket with red paint, but.... Oh well. C

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    Some of the members costumes look awesome with the rub n buff method,I did find some old threads on here regarding other peoples problems,it looks like it's been talked about on here quite a few times!.

    It was just a test I done today,I'm gonna rub back all the armour and sand,then prime it,hopefully it'll adhere better,I'll let you know how I get on!.

    I'm based in the UK,model masters paints are scarce here,I've been trying to get hold of the Boba colours in pollyscale too,but no luck either,I'm desperate to get hold of panzer olive green!.

    Thanks for the help guys.

    Speedstering

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    I helped at SDCC '08 Jimmy BufFETT's Avatar
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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    If ya found my thread, then you'll know not to touch ANYTHING in your house until ya wash your hands! Oh yeah ... make sure ya have soap in you're house too!

    Anyway, I'd suggest letting the stuff dry for a few minutes before ya touch it again. It does come off very easily ... even after a few days. I usually grap the armor from near the edges since the edges are gonna be weathered anyway.

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    still a newbie here,but how different would the look be if a bodyshop were to paint the silver a "satin silver"????

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    @jimmy
    ..yeah i remember the car

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    Thanks guys,

    I remember the post with the RNB everywhere,hmm,I must remember to purchase plenty of soap (ahem!).

    I've been thinking of going down the Alclad2 chrome paint route!,I've seen some pretty excellent pictures of members helmets painted with it one here,looks pretty cool

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    Don't go chrome. It's all wrong. Jango is not chromed. He is silver with weathering. Chrome is too shiny and bright.

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    I was thinking of toning down by using a top coat/clear sealer,this will hopefully give the duller look to the helmet?.

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    I helped at SDCC '08 GCNgamer128's Avatar
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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    Just stick with the RnB, it works great.

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    The RNB is also super duper cheap. Like 2-3 bucks will cover the whole suit. Its really not that hard. Just make sure to prime it and wetsand it multiple times so that its super duper smooth like you could eat off of it. Then put a little bit of rnb on your finger and rub it, then buff it. Pretty simple. Just be careful not to touch anything till you clean your hands. The helmet might rub off on some stuff for a week, but it will cure, and the more you buff it, the less will rub off later.

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    MonCal said: View Post
    I've been trying to get Seeker to share some pointers for about 2 years now... maybe we can get him to give us some advice? I do o.k. with rub n buff but not as good as some of the folks here.

    I'm going to do video presentation for you guys. Exactly the way i do it.

    Sorry Moncal. I feel like i dissapointed you big time. You still like me right?

    I'll do it ASAP

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    A video! Cool!!!

    Loving your work Seeker, as always!

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    To bad we don't have the video from DC.

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    The video from DC?

    Do tell Bill.....

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    It was back in 04. I think Braks Buddy took the video but, I am not sure.

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    Mr.Fett took it. mayb i can have him put on youtube or something. plus I'll make other with all the steps.

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    I'll check around for the video. It was a friends camera we were using, so maybe they still have the DC tapes that went with it.

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    SEEKER said: View Post
    I'm going to do video presentation for you guys. Exactly the way i do it.

    Sorry Moncal. I feel like i dissapointed you big time. You still like me right?

    I'll do it ASAP
    .. Yeah.. I think I can find it in my heart to forgive you The only reason I asked is because I missed it when the video was made.

    It's all good

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    Dunno if I've found a solution here for sealing rub n buff without compromising the finish?.

    I was in a local hobby shop,this shop sells everything!,and I saw a product called Treasure Sealer,it states on the back of the bottle it is for sealing gold leaf and leafing products,......now,it also mentions guilt rubbing etc,so I'm wondering if this stuff would do for the rub n buff,considering it says it's for sealing leafing?.

    Thought I'd ask on here to see if anyones heard of it before i dip my hand in my pocket and buy it?.

    Thanks .

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    I helped at SDCC '08 MandalorFett's Avatar
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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    SEEKER said: View Post
    I'm going to do video presentation for you guys. Exactly the way i do it. .......I'll do it ASAP
    That's awesome, thanks Seeker!



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    I helped at SDCC '08 GCNgamer128's Avatar
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    Hah, making a video of it is awesome

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    I helped at SDCC '08 Jimmy BufFETT's Avatar
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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    SEEKER said: View Post
    I'm going to do video presentation for you guys. Exactly the way i do it.

    Sorry Moncal. I feel like i dissapointed you big time. You still like me right?

    I'll do it ASAP
    Hey thanks a bunch dude! I am in the process of redoin' my RnB job on my armor ... perfect time for this video! :jet pack

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    Re: Rub n Buff help!

    I used Rub n Buff for all my armor including my gauntlets and even my boots. It's the best stuff. You really, really don't need more than the tube and your bare hand.

    Remember two little rules. ONE: A tiny bit goes a very long way. I barely squeeze a dab onto my finger. I made a tiny dab cover a good four square inches on my helmet. I then apply it to the surface and spread it evenly over a fixed area and spread or rub out as thin as I can get it until I can't spread it any more. TWO: Friction! I buff it with any part of my palm. You have to rub or "buff" it hard enough and fast enough to create friction. Don't worry if your skin burns off. It will grow back. Just kidding. But really. Buff it out so that you feel the burn. Literally. It's the friction that makes the wax dry onto the surface. I then worked the next four square inches and simply blended the edges until there were no edges but one solid metal looking helmet. The thinner the layer the better!

    You can't really rub or buff it enough, in my opinion. Getting it on your jumpsuit or other parts of your costume is inevitable. You'll also get as much of the stuff on your armor as you will your palm.
    Last edited by Skalen Fehl; Jan 12, 2007 at 9:35 PM.

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