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    Jan 7, 2003, 2:53 PM - Merged: Re: Okay, where can I get Rub n' Buff, and how does it wotk? #26

    hehehehe
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    Jan 7, 2003, 2:58 PM - Merged: Re: Okay, where can I get Rub n' Buff, and how does it wotk? #27

    LOL Mgr! I used a dust rag to apply it to my gauntlets and jet pack just so I wouldn't get my hands as dirty but the first time I used it on my R2 Dome I used my fingers. I actually had no problem clear coating my jet pack. I used the silver and the black on the jet pack and none of it beaded up and you guys saw how dirty that thing looked. I didn't want to have that stuff rubbing off on the rest of my costume.
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    Jan 7, 2003, 3:36 PM - Merged: Re: Okay, where can I get Rub n' Buff, and how does it wotk? #28


    mgr wrote:

    I used my palm to buff my helmet

    seriously!
    Man, that was great.
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    Jan 7, 2003, 5:37 PM - Merged: Re: Okay, where can I get Rub n' Buff, and how does it wotk? #29

    BTW,
    I clearcoated my armor also...
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    Jan 7, 2003, 8:30 PM - Merged: Re: Okay, where can I get Rub n' Buff, and how does it wotk? #30


    mgr wrote:

    I used my palm to buff my helmet

    seriously!
    .......................
    Ya, I went a little nuts w/ the stuff. But my dog looked so cool after I buffed her
    AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAA!!!!! *wiping away a tear of laughter* mgr, you KILL me!


  6. Soju
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    Jan 18, 2003, 4:52 PM - Merged: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #31

    What the heck? I've put it on my knee armor, and it's not as shiney, but it's even. Then, I put it on my thigh armor and it's nice and shiney, but looks really messy and uneven. What the heck is going on?!?!?!
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    Jan 18, 2003, 5:59 PM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #32

    This may sound weird but, How are you Rubbing and well buffing? Are you using a rag or towel or are you using the palm of your hand? to buff out the wax?
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    Jan 18, 2003, 6:35 PM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #33

    Did you let it sit longer on one piece than the other before buffing?
    That will have an effect on it.
    Maybe try buffing on a scrap peice or let your significant other have a wack at it. Sometimes it takes a female touch
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    Jan 18, 2003, 6:58 PM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #34

    Are they both made from the same material? RNB isn't all that shiny on sintra, but it works REAL well with resin/fiberglass.
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    Jan 18, 2003, 7:04 PM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #35


    sith_camaro wrote:

    Are they both made from the same material? RNB isn't all that shiny on sintra, but it works REAL well with resin/fiberglass.
    That sounds like the problem...Have you tried Primer first (a good thick layer) then applying ?
  11. Soju
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    Jan 19, 2003, 6:22 AM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #36

    I tried several methods. First, I tried it over the chrome paint, but it came out looking awful. So, I tried it on just sintra ... better, but not great. So, I tried it on my knee armor, which just had primer, and bingo. Success. It wasn't as shiney as I had seen in the photos here, but it looked pretty good ... nice and even anyway. So, I began sanding the rest of my armor back down to the primer. I started Rub N' Buffing the thigh armor, and again, it came out uneven, but much more shiney than my knees (even with the uneven look, my wife says it looks better than the knees). I didn't do anything differently than with my knee armor. The only explaination I can think of is that the thigh armor is so much larger, it's more difficult to get even coverage. I'm using my finger to apply it. Usually it dries so fast, I end up buffing with my finger as well. I have buffed with both my palm and a soft rag, but it doesn't seem to make a difference either way. So, I really just can't figure it out. I spread the R&B as thin as possible before buffing, but I seem to be using more than what most people said they used. I can definitely see myself using more than one tube, if not two. So, what technique did you all use? Did you put a big blob of the stuff on and do the entire piece at once, or did you do it in sections - applying only a little at a time? Please help me! I have a rubbing and buffing disability!
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    Jan 19, 2003, 9:32 AM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #37

    Apply it in sections. Don't rush and try to do the whole thing at once.
    If you try putting RNB over a surface that has been spray painted with a chroms paint, it will look bad. Almost like it's eating through the paint! If you were to put some brush n leaf on first and then RNB, you'd have no problems.
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    Jan 19, 2003, 9:50 AM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #38

    Come to think of it, I had the same problem w/ my larger pieces, Like Sith said, try doing it in small areas instead of banging out the whole thing at one time.

    BTW,
    Thanks for the brush and leaf suggestion sithcamero. Do you prime or chrome paint before you use that stuff or just put it right over the sintra?
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    Jan 19, 2003, 11:21 AM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #39

    Nope, just put it right on.
    One thing to remember about brush n leaf, You can put RNB OVER it, but you can't put it over RNB. It'll start eating into the wax of the RNB.
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    Jan 19, 2003, 1:25 PM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #40

    Thanks...
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    Jan 20, 2003, 1:50 AM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #41

    Great. So now I get to try to find and purchase Brush & Leaf. Son of a ... Doesn't it leave brush strokes?

    Oh yeah, how many bottles, jars, whatever should I get?
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    Jan 20, 2003, 10:00 AM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #42

    Prime it. Buy silver automotive touch up paint. (test it on a scrap to be sure you'll like the color.) Shoot a part and let the paint dry over night. Apply the rub and buff with your finger in small areas at a time, you can do the whole thing but it might not come out well. Then either use the palm of your hand or very soft non-lotioned Puff's tissues or the like. Worked well for me.
  18. Jan 20, 2003, 11:30 AM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #43

    Okay, I have no experience with R&B whatsoever. (Maybe I should shut up) But I did read online that it will react to oil, grease, etc. and prevent proper adhesion in that instance. I'm also taking a total guess here, but is the leg armor on your thigh,(a handy spot for polishing leg armor) while the other stuff you held in your hand? Would the heat generated by your leg have any bearing in the finished effect? Maybe I should go hammer on something.
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    Jan 20, 2003, 8:23 PM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #44

    Has anyone tried putting RnB onto aluminum armor? Just wondering how this would work.
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    Jan 21, 2003, 3:01 AM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #45

    I thought the whole point of having aluminum armor was so you didn't have to paint or R&B. Well, it's a wax. I don't know if it would "stick." If I were you, I'd just get some polish.

    Anyone got an answer for how many jars of Brush 'n Leaf I'll need?
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    Jan 21, 2003, 7:45 AM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #46

    One should be enough.
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    Jan 21, 2003, 2:43 PM - Merged: Re: My Rub N' Buff is turning out weird. #47

    Thanks again sith.
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    Jan 23, 2003, 2:20 PM - Merged: Rub N Buff Masters #48

    There are various Rub N Buff threads, but I have not found a definitive source for the best overall techniques. Can the Rub N Buff Masters please step up and explain the following:

    1) On Sintra/ABS, should Rub N Buff be used directly on the material, over primer, or over another type of paint?

    2) How finely should the surface be sanded?

    3) Clearcoat?

    4) Rub n Buff with cloth or hand?

    5) When applying, can you estimate the diameter that each application spreads out to (in other words, how much are you using)?

    6) (Optional extra credit) If I Rub N Buff my dog, would it pass as a digital pet?

    Thanks.
  24. Soju
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    Jan 23, 2003, 3:27 PM - Merged: Re: Rub N Buff Masters #49

    Well, my R&B looks like crap. I've tried it on all diferent surfaces, with and without primer, etc. Maybe I just got a bad batch or something. When I put it on an unsanded primered surface, it's too dull. It looks like metal, but not polished. When I put it on sanded primer or straight sintra, it comes out uneven (shiney in some places and dull in others - just flat out ugly really). I've buffed with a soft rag and my palm, and neither has a different outcome than the other. So, I'd be interested in this too.
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    Jan 23, 2003, 3:45 PM - Merged: Re: Rub N Buff Masters #50

    Here's my answers based on my experience:


    ShocKWavE wrote:

    There are various Rub N Buff threads, but I have not found a definitive source for the best overall techniques. Can the Rub N Buff Masters please step up and explain the following:

    1) On Sintra/ABS, should Rub N Buff be used directly on the material, over primer, or over another type of paint?

    I sanded my armor with 220 grit (sintra) then used krylon sandable primer, wet sanded with 330 grit, spray painted with Krylon dull aluminum, then applied rub-n-buff.

    2) How finely should the surface be sanded?

    See above answer.

    3) Clearcoat?

    I used Krylon Matte Finish on my jet pack over the rub n buff with no problem. I've recently experimented with my armor because right now the color is so awesome and it really looks like metal. When compared to the silver on my jet pack, it looks so much better (the jet pack was rub-n-buffed under the finish). SO I took a scrap piece of sintra, painted, rnb, then tried the matte finish and also tried the Krylon clear glaze. The clear glaze did not work well, kinda looked like oil and water. The matte covers fine but I think it detracts from the finish a lot. It goes on fairly smooth so long as you have buffed well but can be just a tad grainy. You can r-n-b over the finish and it is pretty nice but may be a bit grainy in some areas depending on the matte coat.

    4) Rub n Buff with cloth or hand?

    For my armor, I used my hand to apply then buffed with kleenex

    5) When applying, can you estimate the diameter that each application spreads out to (in other words, how much are you using)?

    Well, I use about 1/16-1/8 inch ribbons from the tube at a time and start is a spot and spread it out from there. Then just go to the next spot. I found doing 2 coats (buffing between each coat) gives a more even finish- you will see spots that need more coverage so just add it.

    6) (Optional extra credit) If I Rub N Buff my dog, would it pass as a digital pet?

    Only if you shave it first!

    Thanks.

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