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  1. #51
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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Do you have to airbrush it on or do they sell it in a spray can?

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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    They don't offer it in a spray can unfortunately! however you could use a single action airbrush, which you can pick up reasonably priced!!
    Other than this there are a few companies that offer "chromish" finishes,but none like the Alclad II!
    hope that helps!
    shunned

  3. #53
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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Hey shunned, would you suggest getting the polished aluminum finish, or would something closer to steel work better?

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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Hi Kronk,
    What I would do is use the regular Alclad II Chrome and once you clear coat the Helmet you'll have that polished allumnum appearance!! It sounds weird ,but the Chrome Deadens out some and with the Clear coat on there with the polished allumnum affect, you should achieve what your looking for!!
    Good Luck and let me know how it turns out for you!! If I beat you to it, I'll post pics of mine so you can see what the end result is!
    shunned

  5. #55
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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Thanks, and you probably will beat me to it. I had heard that the clear coat deadened the chrome finish, but I know they also have the polished aluminum finish and thought that might work better. Let me know how yours turns out!

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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    A real good trick, is to paint your alclad II over SATIN instead of gloss black. It gives it a nice shine, but not too chrome.

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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Ah, I was wondering how a different finish would affect the outcome. Thanks JD.

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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Kronk,
    Just keep in mind that any Alclad II is not chip resistant!! I think either color would probably work out well for ya ,but the clear coat is a must if you are going to handle the helmet at all!! The alluminum finish color might deaden out more than you want it to so I'd test em out!!
    I'n fact I'll do a little test tonight with my alclad II and if I can get someone to clue me in to a good pic host, I'll put em up as soon as I can!!(tonight or tomarrow!)
    PM me or post back, I'll check in once I get started!!
    TTYS, shunned

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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Now you're talking, I was hoping someone would test this out. I can't wait to see the pictures.

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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    OK done!!
    I did a side by side comparison on the same piece so you could see the difference between Alclad II Chrome non-clear coated and the other I clear coated!!
    Now, to find a good pic host!LOL
    I'll be back with pic results!!
    shunned

  11. #61
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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    I'm posting this info for shunned. Hopefully you guys can see the pics.


    shunned wrote:


    ... Heres two test photos for ya guys, sorry about the quality of the pics ,but I was in a hurry to leave for band practice!!
    ON the Left side of your screen you can see the Clearcoated version !! As you can see the finish has dulled out to a near "Dirty" alluminum type finish that distorts the reflection about 35% more than the version on the right!
    On your Right side of the screen you see the un-clearcoated version which is highly reflective and has a very polished look to it!!

    I did both of these on a good coat of glass black before I sprayed on the Alclad II !
    The test piece is the molded visor from my ROTJ helmet which I removed to put in the real visor! It was a perfect test piece since everyone is thinking about this paint for their helmet!! I just happened to have a piece so there ya have it!

    Anyway, both would be good candidates for a Jango helmet however , for those who do not want to topcoat it I warn that any minor fall or scuff up against something will more than likely cause the paint to either chip or scuff!! The clear coat will protect your helmet further and not only that ,but compliment the Black rub'n buff most of you like to use!!
    LMK what ya think! sincerely, shunned



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    Merged: Merged: Jango Armor Color errr, Armour Colour

    I have a question...I realize that this has been covered somewhat, but before I go any further with my Jango helm.

    Which is the better color to use? Alclad II chrome or Alclad II aluminum. ORRRR, the Testors Aluminum? I understand that they need to be sealed as the paint is rather brittle.

    The Jango helm I recently aquired, is painted with the Alclad II Chrome, and it really looks dead on. Only thing is, when I get the armor, I do want it to match...but I suck with an airbrush. So I was considering the aerosol route. I do understand that the makers of Alclad is considering releasing the color in aerosol some time in the future.

    Any help here would be great...thanks,
    Shawn




  13. #63

    Merged: Merged: Re: Jango Armor Color errr, Armour Colour

    well if you can spray paint, you can airbrush. Alcad in airbrushing is straight forward, in fact the paint is even premixed for you.

  14. #64

    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    I'm just worried that you will be able to see the lines from the airbrushing...then I'd have to go back...then there'd be too much paint...or not enough paint...AHHHHHH!

    I suppose that's what sand paper is for though, huh?

    Which Alclad II is the better one though, Aluminum or Chrome? I see there were pics, but they don't show up anymore.

    After painting, does one put the "rub n' buff" on, or is that over kill?

    Which kind of clear coat works the best?

    Thanks for being patient, as I am still rather new and still not very confident with my abilities.

    Shawn


  15. #65

    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Ok, now I am pissed...big time.

    I used the Alclad, let it dry about a week, sprayed the clear coat and...the friggin thing freakin cracked! A few weeks of work down the damn crapper!

    So anyone want to provide any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated now.

    Shawn

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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    I'm so sorry, that totally blows rocks!

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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Man that does suck!!
    OK, I gotta know..
    What cracked and how???
    I sprayed my Helmet a few weeks ago with Alclad II and have not noticed this problem at all!
    What type of helmet do you have?? I have a Resin based helmet and it is very stout after all the work I put into it bondo wise and such!! Not much Flex if any!!
    The only 2 things I can think of is:
    1) If this is an original DP or Dubies the material may Flex too much! Alclad is not known for NOT being flexible for only only reason, that it is a very thin based paint!! I know this info probably does you no good now, I'll try to bring up all the things I can think of to alieviate(sp?) this problem!!
    2) If the surface wasn't preped good before you added your topcoat this would result in cracks and reactions! A nice fine Scotch brite pad or 4000 steelwool would do for this!!

    Let us know what your problems were !!
    thanks, shunned

  18. #68

    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    yah, describe the helmet and where it cracked. That does suck pal, I am sorry.

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    Well, now that I am over being totally pissed. I think the problem may have to do with the base coat that I used.

    I used Testors Model Masters Gloss Black, #FS17038 for this. When I first tried to apply the GB undercoat, in certain spots, the paint came out like I had added a sand mix. The first time that this happened, I passed it off that I didn't shake the can long enough and that I am doing this in my basement, which is about 60 degrees. It did take a few attempts to get a clean coat after some sessions of light sanding.

    Well, after I experienced the disaster the other night, I obviously had to sand the sucker down. In doing this, I discovered that the gloss black had turned into - tar. At least that is the consistency. My guess, and it should probably have been apparent to begin with is that its was old paint. Something I wouldn't have known as I had just it up at the hobby store a few weeks ago.

    Incidentally, the problem happened on the crown, the cheeks, and a bit of the back by the vents. So, now I am back to painting as I have spent most of my waking hours sanding this sucker.

    Shawn




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    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    Man that stinks!! Sorry that happened to you man !!
    After reading your last post I wondered about the temp. in the room your painting in and about the drying time in between coats of the GB!
    I have had what you described happen in a cold paint booth before and it wasn't pretty!! At the time I was very impatient and eager to get the project moving!!LOL
    You are right about the Old paint theory! This will do the same thing!!
    Anyhelp we can be man, post away!!
    Hope all goes better for you this time around. Keep us posted!!
    sincerely, shunned

  21. #71

    Merged: Re: Painting your helmet and armor with Alclad II?

    as a general rule, whenever I use enamels and am going to paint on top of it, I leave the base layer to dry for at least a day or two. Not hours but days.


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    Merged: Rust-Oleum paint question

    I am doing a custom mandalorian with a black/silver scheme.
    I was gonna use rust-oleum chrome and black spray paint. I dont wanna screw up the paint due to touching it too much. So i also have crystal clear paint for a finisher. In the past when i have used the clear coat on the chrome, it has turned a dirty dull gray. Was i just clear coating it too soon or is there another way to protect the chrome?

    Many thanks in advance.

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    Merged: Re: Rust-Oleum paint question

    Wy wife's armor turned out the same way. But I was cool with it since I didn't want the super shiny chrome look. Honestly, I don't know of anohter way. Seeker's Jango MLC helmet turned out great. Check that thread to see. He said what he used on there.

    Wes

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    Merged: Re: Rust-Oleum paint question

    First things first, try to use a better type of paint. Automotive paint is much more effective for this type of thing. Remember you get what you pay for ESPECIALLY with paint! Metallics are basically metal flakes that are floating in lacquer. Some have more density than others. When you clear coat over it, you're re-activating the the metallic paint. That's why you need to do it in light coats, or else it ends up graying or uneven. It can be done, but you really need to take your time. Make sure you let the chrome/silver paint cure for at least a week before you clear-coat it. And most important practice & test it on a scrap piece before you do your helmet. Some clears can be funny & unpredictable (like crinkling). Hope this helps!
    Art

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    Merged: Re: Rust-Oleum paint question

    I would recommend just using a silver paint- like Krylon(I think) dull aluminum. Then you can apply rub-n-buff in silver over the top of it- gives it a real nice metal look. You do not clear coat it. You could do it under the rub-n-buff if you wanted but really no reason to. Using chrome spray paint just doesn't work very well- I've tried it before for other projects and it just sucks!

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