Bountys Hunted
Well-Known Hunter
Looking forward to seeing pics Brian!!!
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Hand Schaub
Active Hunter
best thing I can say is make sure the metal is clean before painting. Thus far I haven't had any problems with the few I painted.
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Hand Schaub
Active Hunter
buff - then buff some more. Some metal rubbing compound will help too. It will seem more shiny when painted as well. I actually left mine a somewhat raw wire wheeled finish which is duller than high buff but at least it's consistant. I'll take a few pics of my helmet now so I can show more clearly...
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Hand Schaub
Active Hunter
Just implying that the contrast between the painted areas (being darker) and the bare metal will make the bare metal seem shinier - optically
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Rammage
Active Hunter
It seems like every time I try to add a second coat to anything, the surface seems to acquire a kind of bumpy texture to it. This is even more obvious when using Rustoleum Metallic Finish as it is reflective, and thus the bumps can be seen easier. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there any way to avoid it?
Any info is greatly appreciated!
Any info is greatly appreciated!
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ShocKWavE
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I am assuming you are talking for Jango? Mine is very similar and I just posted briefly about the steps. Check this thread, 6th post.....
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic.php?topic=6509&forum=4
I'm thinking that Metallic paint is your problem, and you need to wetsand the surface for prep. If you want to continue with the Metallic Rustoleum, I don't think you can sand it so your surface and technique have to be really good. Most of the Metallics turn grey when sanded. The Krylon Dull Aluminum is different and wetsands well if you need to (320 grit/lightly). Plus, it really doesn't matter if the wetsand takes some of that paint because the Rub n Buff corrects it. It took me re-preping my bucket 3 or 4 times before I figured it out. Also, don't expect the surface to look flawless if you go this route. Buff in small light circles. It doesn't all look right until it's weathered. That's my advice. Good luck.
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic.php?topic=6509&forum=4
I'm thinking that Metallic paint is your problem, and you need to wetsand the surface for prep. If you want to continue with the Metallic Rustoleum, I don't think you can sand it so your surface and technique have to be really good. Most of the Metallics turn grey when sanded. The Krylon Dull Aluminum is different and wetsands well if you need to (320 grit/lightly). Plus, it really doesn't matter if the wetsand takes some of that paint because the Rub n Buff corrects it. It took me re-preping my bucket 3 or 4 times before I figured it out. Also, don't expect the surface to look flawless if you go this route. Buff in small light circles. It doesn't all look right until it's weathered. That's my advice. Good luck.
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Rammage
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Awesome helmet and armor, man! Yup, I'm making a Jango and I'm definitely going to use your techniques! Where do you get krylon dull aluminum? I hear it's difficult to find. Also, how many coats of primer and aluminum are you using? One last question (I promise! 
), do you know if clear enamel or lacquer would stick on a RnB'd surface?
Thanks for your help!
), do you know if clear enamel or lacquer would stick on a RnB'd surface?Thanks for your help!
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darksidedesign
Active Hunter
I was planning on going the same route you did, but was
warned of the potential problems with chrome/silver/metallic
paints. So, I didn't paint on mine at all. Strictly Rub 'n Buff.
I primed it first then sanded it a ton. Then applied
the Rub 'n Buff. I am more than thrilled with the results!
before weathering:
after weathering:
Seeker gave some terrific instructions on the best way to apply the Rub 'n Buff.
Here's the link to that thread:
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic.php?topic=5460&forum=9
Good luck!
darksidedesign
warned of the potential problems with chrome/silver/metallic
paints. So, I didn't paint on mine at all. Strictly Rub 'n Buff.
I primed it first then sanded it a ton. Then applied
the Rub 'n Buff. I am more than thrilled with the results!
before weathering:
after weathering:
Seeker gave some terrific instructions on the best way to apply the Rub 'n Buff.
Here's the link to that thread:
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic.php?topic=5460&forum=9
Good luck!
darksidedesign
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ShocKWavE
Well-Known Hunter
The Dull Aluminum is kind of hard to find. I had to order a box of 6 online but I don't remember the store. I received it in a few days. As far as coats, thats hard to say because I apply several very light coats. I never paint full coverage in one coat. I mist it thin, wait a few minutes, mist it, wait, etc etc...once its fairly well covered I give it one more light overall blast. Probably the equivalent of a few coats for each. Darkside is right you can skip the Dull Aluminum if you want but I chose to have something over the primer and under the RnB that had a good alloy look. Whatever you do, just made sure the surface is nice and smooth.
As far as the clearcoat sticking on the RnB....I've heard different stories but I'd guess that in the long run it wouldn't hold too well. The RnB acts as a paint protectant though so it's not really nessesary. For the colored areas, I did use a clear satin Krylon coat, but I masked off all of the areas that I wanted to RnB when I did. Clear on the RnB may also change the appearance, so I would test it on scrap.
As far as the clearcoat sticking on the RnB....I've heard different stories but I'd guess that in the long run it wouldn't hold too well. The RnB acts as a paint protectant though so it's not really nessesary. For the colored areas, I did use a clear satin Krylon coat, but I masked off all of the areas that I wanted to RnB when I did. Clear on the RnB may also change the appearance, so I would test it on scrap.
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Rammage
Active Hunter
Great helmet, darkside!
Thanks for the advice, guys! I'll try to take some progress pics.
You guys have empowered me! I feel a new sense of confidence I've not had in a long time! Why do I have to be stuck at work at a time like this?! Grrrr... :angry(
Thanks for the advice, guys! I'll try to take some progress pics.
You guys have empowered me! I feel a new sense of confidence I've not had in a long time! Why do I have to be stuck at work at a time like this?! Grrrr... :angry(
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Rammage
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Heh. The circle is now complete! Well, maybe not.
One more question for you if I may. Seeker says to apply the RnB to the entire surface of the dome and buff it. In your experience, does applying only a little at a time yield better results? Is it easier to manage that way?
Thanks again!
One more question for you if I may. Seeker says to apply the RnB to the entire surface of the dome and buff it. In your experience, does applying only a little at a time yield better results? Is it easier to manage that way?
Thanks again!
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darksidedesign
Active Hunter
I found that it dried too quickly to put on the whole surface
at once. I did it in small sections. 3 or 4 inches at a time.
Then once the whole surface was covered and buffed for the
most part, I buffed the whole thing again, blending in any
uneven spots.
My arm felt like it was going to fall off when I was done.
Plus my hands were super shiney, kinda like the T-1000.
Good luck and be sure to post pics of your progress.
darksidedesign
at once. I did it in small sections. 3 or 4 inches at a time.
Then once the whole surface was covered and buffed for the
most part, I buffed the whole thing again, blending in any
uneven spots.
My arm felt like it was going to fall off when I was done.
Plus my hands were super shiney, kinda like the T-1000.
Good luck and be sure to post pics of your progress.
darksidedesign
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OPPI
Active Hunter
Did all you jangos clearcoat your gauntlets?? So far all the silver/chrome colors i have tested have turned grey after clearcoat. I am now using duplicolor auto paint, and clear so i am hoping it will come out nice. I really want a clearcoat on these to keep them from chipping and stuff. LMK what you did or tried and how it worked
thanks for the input
dan
thanks for the input
dan
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Foxbatkllr
Well-Known Hunter
I used Rub n Buff...no clearcoat.
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Star Wars Chick
Sr Hunter
Ditto
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