In My opinion, from the high res pictures ive seen, the vest certainly looks to be charcoal grey rather than black. Thats what Im doing mine with, i dont think it contrasts against the coveralls as much.
Discussion on ***Official Thread - Vest and Gloves within the Jango Fett Costume forum, part of the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy Bounty Hunters category; In My opinion, from the high res pictures ive seen,
In My opinion, from the high res pictures ive seen, the vest certainly looks to be charcoal grey rather than black. Thats what Im doing mine with, i dont think it contrasts against the coveralls as much.
I was just wondering the same thing. But I think for now I'll stay with the black.
There are frisking gloves available at http://www.swatools.com but there's a REALLY lousy picture. I'm going to e-mail them to see if there is any stitching on the back. They're around $35. Just thought everyone would want to check it out.
Perhaps some more options at http://www.cheifsupply.com/cat_gloves.phtml
Am I getting too carried away?
I am using some motrcycle gloves that are gauntlet style. I thought I could attach some velcro and keep my gaunlets in place. I don't remember the brand name but I got them at Workwear World for about $35. There is no stitching on the back. Pics will have to wait until my other project are ready to be photographed.
I believe the gloves used were the following:
Search for : CABRETTA THIN WITH SNAP
I would have thought that the gloves would have a bit of a cuff so that there'd be no gap between the end of the gauntlet and the beginning of the glove. The Jango pics certainly look like the glove extends a bit past the wrist.
Hey, what about these:
RCMP Dress Uniform Gloves - http://www.toughgloves.comThe only problem is the stitching on the back of the hand, but they are black, have an extended cuff (which can tuck into the gauntlet) and has the wrist snap. Maybe we could find other RCMP gloves without the stitching?
Those "Thin Cabretta with Snap" just look too short when compared with that Insider closeup.
The ones I got are the GIMBEL FRISK and SEARCH GLOVES . They are only TEN BUCKS! And im pretty happy with them.In my opinion there are better things to spend 50+ dollars on when making this Jango suit!
I found these
but his gloves are not black..
I think the C2 stuff could of been made just for that..I know that the R2 that appeared is the only one IML has evermade.
I was looking through the Jango Fett kiddie novel at Walmart earlier, and noticed something about his gloves I haven't previously seen- There's a thin (1/2") placket (sp?) seam going up between his thumb and forefinger like on nomex flyers gloves (see the tan one on the left)
Could these be some all-leather, shortend flying gloves?
Good eye Sarge!
I've been thinking lately that they look a bit too thick/padded to just be tight police frisking gloves. When he makes a fist etc the material bulges out a bit. Are these gloves a bit thicker?
they don't make leather flight gloves or short version..
Jangos gloves are not flight gloves..
Now don't rule out that they aren't flight gloves just yet. There's also the possibility that they are modified flight gloves. Props in the SW universe have been known to be modified every day things
There's also a very good chance that they're all leather driving gloves (snap under the wrist) that just mimic the flight glove pattern in the palm/ thumb area.
I had mine made from a old cop leather jacket. Just cutting and sewing thing back together like the real one. Cut the sleeves etc.
2nd hand store or try an army surplus store. They are very common. I think state troopers were them more.
but remember it needs to be revesed. My buttons are in the back. You could ad a zipper if you want. Or maybe do a search on ebay or something.
I made my vest myself. I used a Kwik Sew #2936, it's a sleeveless shirt that worked very with just some minor mods. I used a soft grey vinyl.
The material is called Ultra leather. It's a synthetic leather material.
Just wanted everyone to know that if you need a vest, and are not going to make one you should go ahead and purchase one from bigkidbiggertoys- they are pretty amazing. i just got mine and am VERY satisfied. it was made to my EXACT measurements and is made of a material that looks like leather, but is not plastic or anything- it breathes very well- amazing stuff. just wanted to give him a plug! by the way- his jango jumpsuits are amazing too!
For those of you who have made your own vests (and gloves) from scratch and did not use leather from old jackets or vests, what kind of leather did you use. I've looked at a few leather shops online (Tandy for one) and there are so many types of leather. I've never sewn with leather so I don't know what to use. I can't use anything that needs a special sewing machine, need to be able to sew on my own machine. Any suggestions, experiences? I'm ready to start on my vest and gloves now that my jumpsuit is done.
When making clothing items, look for Garment Leather or Chrome-tan Leather.
This is a type of chrome-tan leather which is usually drum dyed and split to a thickness of one to three millimeters. The drum dying allows the pigments to penetrate the leather giving it a much softer feel and richer, deeper color. Depending on the thickness, it is used for skirts, dresses, jackets, and pants.
I've only worked with Vegtable-tanned leather so far, and it might also be an alternative. You'd probably want to stick with a lighter weight, like 4-5oz, maybe even 6-7oz.
By the way, you can run all of these through a standard sewing machine...just be sure to use a heavy duty needle.
You are correct, the vest and gloves are not black, and gun metal grey is probably right on the color. It is simply a dark grey leather.
Read this thread (all three pages): http://forum.thedentedhelmet.com/vie...orum=9&start=0
According to WhoJedi (who actually dressed the Jango mannequin at Celebration II), it is charcoal gray.
The gloves are actually blue leather. They don't match with the flight suit but with the gauntlets in between, who cares.
Originally posted by SITHcamaro:
I used an old leather jacket, and got some padded lining from the store. As for a pattern, I did not use one. I simply took a vest that I had, and traced it's shape onto the fabric (leaving extra material around it). It was actually not very difficult, and looks great! (
Originally posted by LisaFett:
I used a cheerleader pattern from Simplicity, #9806.
1. Lengthened and change the long version of the neck
2. Shorten the short version of the sleeves.
3. Add silver piping where sleeve attaches to vest
4. Double layer with polyester batting in between
5. Quilt stitching lines into sleeves
6. Cut and sew the back with an upside down "u" shape instead of straight across. It doesn't show under the back armor, and it is MUCH cooler this way. I mean, yeah, I'm female and all, but I really don't understand when people say the Fett outfit is hot. If you sew it with the right modifications, it does not have to be hot at all. I've worn long underwear in mine, just to keep warm, and I live in Southern California.
The zipper is already in back, so you don't have to worry about that. You can also omit attaching the neck. There was really minimal altering to do.
Yes, after much research, I've come to the conclusion that the vest is a dark gray, not a black. Even upon close inspection of the actual movie, it looks dark gray.
Ok, Im gettin the vest together, now, how do i attach the snaps and such to the vest, do i sew those on, and what size does everyone recommend, Seeker, what size did u use...
Sew on snaps won't be strong enough. You'll need the kind that you will have to punch thru the leather. Then glue the other side to the armor pieces with some super strong glue like epoxy or J.B. Weld. You can buy a pack of these snaps at Wal-Mart. They come with a little setter tool for attaching them to the vest.
I made my vest out of vinyl. I am curious if industrial strength velcro will hold. It is working on my sons vest. Can I use the snaps on my vinyl vest?
wll mgr, im usin vinyl, so i think it will.
Yes,snaps work very well on vinyl.
Well here's a pic of the gloves Im thinking of getting...
Unfortunately, the guy I emailed says that the leather they are made from is very thin, and usually only comes dyed in black. The only way to get a "gunmetal grey" would be to contact the manufacturers directly, and have them specially dye a batch. Maybe another option would be to find them in white and then "attempt" to dye them?
Perhaps we can find a style, decide on a color, and see if we can find a manufacturer that would be willing to do a small run of Jango Fett gloves for us?
I thought the actual gloves were a dark blue color.
Maybe whojedi can back me up on that?
Yeah, they ain't black. A dark blue or sorts.
But Gwizah, those gloves don't have the wrist-snap. Go back to the police gloves on toughgloves.com and look for the thin cabretta with snap. http://toughgloves.com/cgi-bin/shop.cgi/page=police.htm
THe big pic is kinda crummy (at least it is on this monitor I am using right now):
I figure if you get a glove size that's bigger than your hand, maybe you can wear another glove inside to give it that slightly thicker look that the real Jango gloves have.
The gloves are a dark blue. They were very simple and smooth on the top (seamless on top, I mean). I actually have to go look for some, since that is about all that I haven't taken care of.
Now you guys got me all worried...
Squirk, where exactly did you see a wrist strap on the jango gloves? I was under the assumption that it just had a groove like those I posted.
Whojedi since you are THE MAN when it comes to Jango details, do you remember wether the gloves had a snap on them?
Alright, I thought that I was right on this, but I had to verify with a source to confirm. Whaddaya know, I was right...anyway, I am really probably going to be throwing everyone for a loop here, but here goes...
The gloves did not have any snaps on them, they were simply slip on gloves. The unique thing about them is that they had elastic around the bottom of the gloves. We actually tucked the jumpsuit sleeves into the gloves to help secure it since the gloves had elastic. Which therefore made closing and fastening the gauntlets a biatch.
Should have probably posted this earlier, but being new to this whole costuming thing, I NEVER thought that you all would get that detailed. Well, obviously I was wrong and now you have all dragged me down with you. **** you all!!!! Just kidding, I love this.
So what you are saying is basically:
That looks like a wrist slit to me...Albeit the elastic wrist sounds good. Maybe they sent the elastic wristed one to Cel2 to **** off the guys trying to dress the mannequin?
Honestly, I think if we can find something in the right color, I don't think the wrist will matter so long it is long enough to go into the gauntlets. I just can't find any in a color that is even close.
I agree, the problem is finding a style in the right color.
That definately could be a wrist slit on that picture, they did use two different costumes for the movie, but I would guess that they had alot of different gloves, especially while filming the Kamino scenes. Or there could have even been a slit on the gloves I handled, even with the elastic. The slit just wouldn't be open at the bottom because of the elastic.
If it is a slit, it almost looks like it is too close to the thumb, though. Kinda like it might be something sticking out of the inside of the gauntlet. Just can't tell.
Frankly, I thought it looked stupid to have an exposed wrist. Like Boba, it just seems that the gloves should tuck into the gauntlets so that no skin appears.
I bought some deerskin hunting gloves from walmart for 15 bucks. They are a faded black, and under some light, look the exact blue, and in others its black. But for 15 dollars, and how accurate they look on the issue of the seams, its one of the best if seen.
In which department at Wal*Mart did you find your gloves?
I looked in a couple of different areas of the store and
found no such thing!!!
I found a ton of leather gloves, but they were all light tan, brown, etc.
if there is one thing I noticed about my move to chicago, state to state, things sold differ ! In cali, you aren't going to find a glove. In Il, you find gloves in about every department store ! give it to end of november, trust me, the gloves will be quite abundant.
BTW- Squirk, good seeing you here you ol' RPF rascal.
I further checked out the site that Squirk recommended and found so many good candidates for design, but the freaking color is what bugs me !!! Keep looking guys...at least we know where to get good gloves if blue is not around, so thanks squirk !
BTW- it would be weird to meet you...I am still expecting comic book guy telling me "Worst Jango EVER" Supposedly, there are a lot of fetts up here, like Seeker.
Just got back from my local Wal-Mart and they had a ton of the deerskin hunting gloves in all sizes. They are EASILY the closest I have seen to the real deal, they even have the elastic around the bottom. But, they only come in black. They don't look bad in the black, just not quite the right color. If I cannot find a blue pair before October, these will definately be the ones that I purchase.
EDIT: Just found this pair as well online, once again, in black...
Actually, the gloves are navy blue, only the vest is charcoal grey.
I am not sure about the differences between Jango's and Boba's vest. Jango's sleeves are obviously a little different. Other than that, I don't know.
I will have a tutorial for Boba's vest up on our website very soon. It's already done, Azeem just has to put it up. www.azeem2000.com
I didn't want to start a new thread so I found this one and thought I would add some gloves I found and wanted some opinions. I know that their not navy blue but I thought maybe the length would be great under the gauntlets or would they be a problem. I don't own a set of gauntlets so I wouldn't know. I'm geting a set of gauntlets VERY soon though
I've always used long gloves. It keeps them nicely tucked inside, and also helps keep the gauntlets from sliding around on your arm.
I personally prefer short gloves, feels more comfortable.
Great advice!! So you dont think the extra leather would be too thick for clamping the gauntlet over??sith_camaro wrote:I've always used long gloves. It keeps them nicely tucked inside, and also helps keep the gauntlets from sliding around on your arm.
I've never had problems. And if you do, you can always trim the leather.
I'm currently working to make my own vest out of black vinyl, so heres my questions. 1) are there any patterns for it 2) should i sew the shoulder pads on separately or all one piece and 3) could anyone who has made their own or mostly made their own please post away. any help is greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance.
Well, I sewed the shoulders on separately and I used a pattern for a womens vest- depending on your size, you may be able to use it. I have the pattern info on my site. I used the padded version of that pattern but just lined it and didn't pad it as shown on the pattern. Then I made a shoulder armor template and drew out my shoulder pieces based on that and sewed them on. I also altered the pattern so it would zip in back instead of in front.
Thanks Mirax. I'll have to see if i can find that pattern. i don't think size will be a problem seeming as i am kind of short. how has everyone else attached it in the back (zipper, velcro, snaps, etc.)?
Zipper would be more secure just make sure you have friends.
Just a few more
Anyone have some pictures of Jangos vest or their vest? I need to see how it looks so I can get a good idea exactly what I have to do. any pics or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
My tutorial is on my site at www.azeem2000.com. It only shows Boba. You'll need to change the shape of the sleeves a little, and for real authenticity you'll need to make openings on one side and one shoulder. I thought I read/saw that Jango's opens only on one side and shoulder, and actually not down the back. Except, it would be much easier to have it open down the back, anyway, just for ease of getting dressed and maximum adjustibility.
It does indeed open down the side but in the interest of "movie accuracy" that may be going to far as no one would know the difference. We had no clue until a mag from the UK published photos of the vest open. Just do it down the back it will be much easier and undetectable anyway.
I made my vest pattern using one of my t-shirts as a template.
I pinned the shirt down on some cardboard and traced the shirt out. After I cut out the cardboard template, I used that cardboard pattern and traced it out on a larger rectangular piece of cardboard. What I had to do was place my template near the bottom of the rectangular cardboard and after tracing that out, I flipped it over(like turning a page in a book) and connected the template "shoulder to shoulder" with the already drawn out pattern and traced out that pattern as well. What you'll get is a pattern that'll give upper shoulder room and connects the front and back vest. I did have excess on the sides of the vest which you can trim,sew together, zip, ect. I used industrial velcro on my sides and they conceal very well. It also permits me to suit on or take off my vest by myself. There will be some trimming involved just to get it right but I don't think it will be much. As far as the shoulder pieces, I used cardboard templates again and taped them to my vest. Get a good look in the mirror while wearing your vest and/or helmet because it helped me to gauge the right proportion so that everything looks correct to the vest. I had to do that several times. When you find the right look, trace them out on your material and add them on. I hope this helps out some and good luck!
I only have one pic that works on the net and it's not my favorite as I was sweating to death in my suit. I had to open one side of my vest(left side, underneath arm)to let the 1,000 degree heat out as well as the velcro on either side of my neck to let more "steam" out. I was taking a quick break and my wife took the pic and I was caught off guard. Other than that the vest really is great and the velcro on the sides let me adjust the vest as well as blow off some "steam" when needed. Honestly, I wished my wife had waited until I had cooled off and put the vest back together before taking the pic. Without further adoo, here it is...
I hope these photos help you guys:
For anyone who needs jango gloves i have a solution. I purchased some pigskin leather gloves a Wal-mart for 10 bucks. The color was a light tan/cream. I then got some navy blue rit dye(about 4oz) and added that to some boiling water. Then stir in the damp gloves( dip them in cold water first) for about 10 to 15 seconds. They came out a perfect navy blue, but it just might be to dark, i'll have to see them when they are dry. I might try it again and use the royal blue rit dye instead. My main goal was to see if it would work and the test was a success.
I may be hot on the trail of some good Jango gloves. While doing some searches I came across some horse riding and show gloves. It seems there are a number of different show gloves available that are navy blue and leather. Here is one link I found http://www.4showhorsetack.com/clothing/showgloves.htm
I know they aren't perfect, but I think I'm getting close.
I just ordered a pair. I will have pics up as soon as I get them.
Here that gloves. I put them next to my back pair. Still not sure if I like them or not.
How's the color? I bought some gloves off ebay yesterday. From the picture, the color looks really good, but who knows what they actually look like. The seller claims they are navy. These were "Cambrai Leather Show Gloves." Here is the image that was with the auction:
They are almost black. In the correct light you can see the blue in them.
I found some gloves (no picture, sorry, I have yet to buy them) at Wal-Mart that were officially licensed NASCAR merchandise. Good color (the lightish-blue) but they have an embroidered NASCAR car number on the top of the glove. I supposed it could be removed, but, just felt like sharing. They were only about 3 bucks, too.
Also, searching "Cambrai Leather Show Gloves" will turn up many-a-site for gloves that can be close to the kind that guy got off of eBay.
I modified a cheap $15 Roses black pleather (plastic-leather) jacket for my vest.
I found some faux suede gloves in the Hunting department at Wal-Mart for my gloves.
Pictures soon, fear not.
I'm interested in making my Jango flak vest out of real leather, however, I'm not sure how to paint or dye it dark gray. I can't seem to find a dark gray leather dye. Does anyone know if one exists? Would it be possible to convert a black dye to dark gray somehow?
Also, has anyone tried regular old spray paint on leather? If so, how'd that work out? Are there any other methods of coloring leather?
Of course, the backup plan is to use vinyl, but I wasn't able to find the right color at my local JoAnn's. Does anyone know if spray paints will stick to vinyl?
Thanks in advance!
Well, I think you may hae some difficulty dyeing a garment leather that is already a color. You might want to contact Tandy Leather and ask them if it is possible. I think spray paint is a bad idea, I'd be afraid it would crack and peel.
Actually, Tandy suggested the spray paint! They said it would be okay as long as I didn't use it too much.
They also said it would be very difficult to turn a black to a dark gray, but I wanted to see if anyone has tried it.
I don't suppose anyone knows how Seeker made his, do they? It looks pretty darn close to leather, if it isn't.
Wow, I'm surprised you can do that. Learned something new Seekers was a police vest if I'm not mistaken and is leather. He had it modified to work. I believe it is black (looked it in person)or a very dark grey. It works very well!
I sprayed my ammo pouches and it did crack. Maybe I used to much. I think seeker used RnB on his vest...
As I understand your vest is already black and you're trying to get it grey? My vest is actually grey leather to start with but antiqued with black oil antiqueing rub that I got at Tandy. If anything you may find some white oil color to mix with the black to make it grey (Again, tandy should have this). layer it on until it creates a slight white wash to steel grey. The black leather will show trough enough to keep the overall appearance dark. The spray that Tandy sells to set up the leather is actually just clearcoat... the same **** as krylon (a little secret a leather worker shared with me) This is probably why spray paint would work. Hope this doesn't confuse you more.
Yeah, I'm not too sure I want to use spray paints on something as important (and large) as the vest.
R&B on the vest, eh? Never would have thought about that! Do you know what color he used?
In case I go vinyl, does anyone know where online I could get a couple yards of charcoal or gun metal gray?
Actually, I haven't made the vest yet. I was wondering how others did theirs, and if I should make the investment in leather and dye.
Does anyone know if solvents can be used to turn a black into gray? Based on the description here, it looks like it could work.
for the money, I spent about the same for a custom leather vest fit to me than I would have buying a pre-made one. Leather will not tear like vinyl. A good grey dyed leather is probably easier to find than vinyl too.
Pleather can be your friend.
I found a killer dark grey vinyl at my local JoAnn's in the home decorating fabrics section where all the vinyls are on huge rolls. It is NOT a cotton backed vinyl - it has a plastic back. The vinyl itself is textured with leather-like wrinkles etc. It looks awesome - very film accurate. I bought it about a month ago so Im sure they still carry it.
PM me with your e-mail and Ill send you some images of mine. Best of all - it was like 6.99 a yard or something.
Heres a link on how to make it with some pics of my completed vest:
Hope this helps!
Isn't leather going to be hot? My vest is made of cotton like and breaths very well and looks like leather. Remember that you will have a jumpsuit and a jet pack harness on also.
Leather-like is accurate, cotton is not even close to accurate for Jango.
When you look at it you will think that it is.
Check out my vest at http://www.billwarren.net/Jango/Bill/vestwitharmor/
I have several yards of Charcoal Grey vinyl left over from mine.
My local JoAnn's had it in a clearance pile, so I picked it
all up (like 7 yards) for $4.99/yd. If you'd like, I can
send some your way for the same price I paid + shipping.
Let me know if you're interested.
Here's a sample of the color
(The grey on the left, not the blue):
Wow asok! Awesome vest! Where did you get that material? Do you know if it can it be dyed with Rit?
If I do the vest in leather, I'd go with the 4-5 oz thickness, so it should stay relatively cool, in conjunction with Underarmor. I'm also thinking about using just a single coat of black dye. Hopefully that will result in a dark gray appearance. I'll test it on scraps first, and post a few pics of my progress.
If that doesn't work out, I've got plenty of alternatives thanks to y'all! Much appreciated!
I had the vest made. So, I can't answer any of your questions. Sorry.
For clarificaiton, SEEKER used 2 or 3 different colors of acrylic paints made by Liquitex.
Sorry I missed this fellas. I'm still recoparation from last weekend.
Well I would segest by all means to try to make your vest out of leather. You will se the results in photographs and in person. My vest/jacket was black. I used what gater said Liquitex acrylic paints to give it a grayish weathered look. I used colors - raw umber, raw sienna, light blue violet, black, gray. All colors where thin out with water. Dont go thick with the paints. try to go as light as possible withe the paint washes. built up your colors in thin layers.
I mixed them here and there in all diferent areas for that certain look. try it on some other kind of vinyl or extra pieces of leather for practice.
I was in Wal-Mart today looking for a good pattern for my Flak vest. I am 6'2" with a 48" chest, so the cheerleader patterns don't work too well. I did find this pattern for a rennaissance vest that would possibly work well if it was reversed (and with a couple of obvious mods) just wanted some opinions, it's a Simplicity 5925.
I used a simplicity pattern (easy-to-sew 5473) for mine. Its basically a t-shirt pattern.
Here are the mods:
1. no v neck collar
2. leave out the yoke
3. without the yoke the back will be longet than the front - even it out
4. dont sew the sleeves in
5. make a pattern for the cap sleeves
heres a tutorial:
I dont recommend using a standard vest pattern. Its pretty advanced sewing to make the back of garment the front and have it still look right. Trust me - my way works.
Look for a cheerleader pattern, there are a few of them.
I feel you mister fett! I too am 6'2" and a 48" chest. Not much luck with the cheerleader patterns for us big mandalores. Anyway Obi Sean's way seems to look good I think I'm gonna try it for mine.
it worked for me and im 6'3" 180 lbs.
Do any of you know where at I might be able to order the material for the flak vest?