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  1. Rednave's Avatar
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    Jan 20, 2005, 8:25 AM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #26

    VERY NICE! I can't wait to see it all painted up. I wasn't planning on doing a Jango, but now....hmmm
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    Jan 20, 2005, 8:46 AM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #27

    Quote T-Visor said:
    I'm sorry, but I can see no major differences between Jango's and Boba's bucket. Ok, there's this earpiece modification, but I doubt that Jango's cheeks aren't as "deep" as Boba's and man, we're talking about a Marrow_Sun: with the Mystery Helmet, the most accurate Fett bucket available
    If you look at direct comparisons between the 2 from all angles, they are definitely different.
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    Jan 20, 2005, 3:04 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #28

    Quote T-Visor said:
    I'm sorry, but I can see no major differences between Jango's and Boba's bucket. Ok, there's this earpiece modification, but I doubt that Jango's cheeks aren't as "deep" as Boba's and man, we're talking about a Marrow_Sun: with the Mystery Helmet, the most accurate Fett bucket available
    With all due respect to Marrow_Sun, he didn't sculpt the Mystery Helmet...

    There are many many differences between a Jango helmet and a Boba Helmet.

    BKBT's helmet is great looking and a good alternative to the Boba helmets out there. It doesn't have any crookedness or warpage in the T-Visor, the ear details are already correct, and the dent is already filled in. I personally prefer judz dwedd's helmet, but outside of that I'd highly recommend BKBT's helmet. It's not perfect, but its better than using a regular Boba helmet.
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    Jan 20, 2005, 3:16 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #29

    Look at this image attached and look at the red lines. I realize they aren't the same angles completely, but its irrelevant as you can see the difference is quite great. Make sense?
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    Jan 20, 2005, 4:45 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #30

    i think it do the job , its better than a rubbies

    and how many people can tell the difference other than us
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    Jan 20, 2005, 5:15 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #31

    Quote Simon Kenobi said:
    i think it do the job , its better than a rubbies

    and how many people can tell the difference other than us

    I didnt even know there was a difference untill just now. Not like im a expert on the matter. I still like the helmet.
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    Jan 20, 2005, 5:17 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #32

    Foxbatkllr hates Bigkidbiggertoys. JK! Your helmet looks like a white pre-pro! which is awesome.
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    Jan 20, 2005, 6:16 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #33

    Quote Foxbatkllr said:
    ... I personally prefer judz dwedd's helmet, but outside of that I'd highly recommend BKBT's helmet. It's not perfect, but its better than using a regular Boba helmet.
    All points are valid to some degree. It will prolly be more a matter of taste obviously! I've tried on one of Judz Dwedd's buckets and while I dig his work and skills, the bucket way small for my taste ,but non the less a great piece!
    just my .02!
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    Jan 20, 2005, 6:22 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #34

    Also, exacerbating the differences in BKBT's photos is a fair amount of "pin-cushioning."

    Attached is a comparison of RS's original Fett plug showing a photo taken by the original owner and a photo later taken by PhotonMagic. To date, it's the best example of how photos can become distorted.
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    Jan 20, 2005, 6:34 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #35

    It is all a matter of perspective...

    Quote Foxbatkllr said:
    Look at this image attached and look at the red lines. I realize they aren't the same angles completely, but its irrelevant as you can see the difference is quite great. Make sense?
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  11. Admin Staff Star Wars Chick's Avatar
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    Jan 20, 2005, 6:45 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #36

    I may have some Jango-Boba comparrison pics for us later this evening
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    Jan 20, 2005, 7:01 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #37

    Another thing... when you wear this thing, people in general are going to either go... "Wow! Cool! You're Boba Fett (regardless of color, version, whatever)"...or say this..."Wow! A Stormtrooper! Cool!" and we are a over-thunkin' it! HA!

    Still looks cool despite the longer face, or rounder dome, or too deep cheek indentations, (or different focal lengths of the respective cameras, or lens angle, or aperture length), or reference, or whatever.

    Chew on that...and the current color is still cool!

    Later Friends,

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    Jan 20, 2005, 7:52 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #38

    It is good to see that reference pic side by side. In fact, it was one of many that I used. It seems to me that there is a great deal of difference in the helmet shapes depending on which publicity photos you are looking at. I have another pic that shows the dome quite rounded where the one in the above has a bit of a flat to it. Photography probably plays the major difference in the photos. Looking at the above comparison again, my helmet looks a little squashed in the sides & the dome is rounded too much. Just a trick from the camera or digital artifacts? I am no expert in that field but the helmet proportions are distorted a bit.
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    Jan 20, 2005, 9:57 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #39

    I think some of it is artifact- either camera artifact or positioning artifact.
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    Jan 20, 2005, 10:01 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #40

    Freaking awesome work my friend. Even if it is not 100% accurate down to every last detail I think it looks darn close. I am going to put it on my list of great helmets.
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    Jan 20, 2005, 10:03 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #41

    Quote bigkidbiggertoys said:
    It is good to see that reference pic side by side. In fact, it was one of many that I used. It seems to me that there is a great deal of difference in the helmet shapes depending on which publicity photos you are looking at. I have another pic that shows the dome quite rounded where the one in the above has a bit of a flat to it. Photography probably plays the major difference in the photos. Looking at the above comparison again, my helmet looks a little squashed in the sides & the dome is rounded too much. Just a trick from the camera or digital artifacts? I am no expert in that field but the helmet proportions are distorted a bit.

    Use the highest resolution on your camer then try to take the pictures as far away from the helmet as you can. Then crop the picture of just the helmet. the closer to the helmet you get, the more the helmet will be distorted.
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    Jan 20, 2005, 11:45 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #42

    Quote SEEKER said:
    The closer to the helmet you get, the more the helmet will be distorted.

    Exactly.

    Quote Digital Camera Review said:
    Pincushion distortion is a lens effect which causes images to be pinched at their center. Pincushion distortion is associated with tele lenses and typically occurs at the tele end of a zoom lens. The use of converters often amplifies the effect. It is most visible in images with perfectly straight lines, especially when they are close to the edge of the image frame. See also the opposite effect, barrel distortion.
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    Jan 21, 2005, 3:14 AM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #43

    You know the fact of the matter is BKBT has done a amazing job of creating a clean and detailed Jango helmet. There are few helmet conversions on the market that consist of more than filling in the dent and sanding off the borden connector. I view this helmet as a huge stepping stone on the path to obtaining perfection. Instead of picking apart depth and angles we as a community should reflect apon the positive details and improvmennts. I believe that this helmet will be the most "wearable" helmet available. Some of the details with this helmet that inspire me are the overall clean lines, the nicely rebuilt earcaps and rangefinder, well done visor section and keyholes. I personally can not wait for someone to paint one of these bad boys up and hopefully I'm lucky enough to obtain one myself! Keep up the great work!
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    Jan 21, 2005, 3:26 AM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #44

    Well said MARROW SUN. It looks to be a vary fine helmet. And I to hope to have one in the future.
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    Jan 21, 2005, 3:38 AM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #45

    Wow, What a sweet lid ! Awesome work BKBT.
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    Jan 21, 2005, 9:36 AM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #46

    That is sick man ! Real sick.

    I believe in what Tyler is saying...if you look at that one pic compared to the side pic, the distortion makes sense.

    BK- can you do what Seeker said...pull back. I think we will see a much better representation of the shape of your helmet.

    As for the moment, I am still blown away ! (PM sent !)
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    Jan 21, 2005, 9:50 AM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #47

    This is not a perfect comparison by a long shot, but this should start to give you a hint of the differeces in the cheeks between boba and jango.
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    Jan 21, 2005, 5:34 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #48

    Thank you Brak's...that comparison shows some of the major differences. As for the rest of you, I can't believe some of your reactions. I thought this forum was for achieving accuracy and perfection. At least I know that's the case in the Boba forums where constant photo comparisons are made and criticisms are taken to heart. In this forum the motto (with the exception of a couple of people) seems to be "it's good enough."

    I realized the pin cushion effect but that is not relevant to the cheeks as you can tell from other photos of BKBT's helmet the cheeks are still deeper like Boba's. And its still a great alternative to Boba helmets. If I had the money i'd probably purchase one myself, but i'm just trying to give BKBT and others feedback for future improvements.

    p.s. My theory about the differences in the cheeks is that Temuera has a fat head (like myself) so they had to make more room inside by making the cheeks shallower.
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    Jan 21, 2005, 5:41 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #49

    Here we go again.........
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    Jan 21, 2005, 8:27 PM - Re: New Jango Helmet! #50

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