New Jango Helmet!

bigkidbiggertoys said:
It is good to see that reference pic side by side. In fact, it was one of many that I used. It seems to me that there is a great deal of difference in the helmet shapes depending on which publicity photos you are looking at. I have another pic that shows the dome quite rounded where the one in the above has a bit of a flat to it. Photography probably plays the major difference in the photos. Looking at the above comparison again, my helmet looks a little squashed in the sides & the dome is rounded too much. Just a trick from the camera or digital artifacts? I am no expert in that field but the helmet proportions are distorted a bit.


Use the highest resolution on your camer then try to take the pictures as far away from the helmet as you can. Then crop the picture of just the helmet. the closer to the helmet you get, the more the helmet will be distorted.
 
SEEKER said:
The closer to the helmet you get, the more the helmet will be distorted.


Exactly.

Digital Camera Review said:
Pincushion distortion is a lens effect which causes images to be pinched at their center. Pincushion distortion is associated with tele lenses and typically occurs at the tele end of a zoom lens. The use of converters often amplifies the effect. It is most visible in images with perfectly straight lines, especially when they are close to the edge of the image frame. See also the opposite effect, barrel distortion.
 
You know the fact of the matter is BKBT has done a amazing job of creating a clean and detailed Jango helmet. There are few helmet conversions on the market that consist of more than filling in the dent and sanding off the borden connector. I view this helmet as a huge stepping stone on the path to obtaining perfection. Instead of picking apart depth and angles we as a community should reflect apon the positive details and improvmennts. I believe that this helmet will be the most "wearable" helmet available. Some of the details with this helmet that inspire me are the overall clean lines, the nicely rebuilt earcaps and rangefinder, well done visor section and keyholes. I personally can not wait for someone to paint one of these bad boys up and hopefully I'm lucky enough to obtain one myself! Keep up the great work! (y)
 
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Wow, What a sweet lid !
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Awesome work BKBT.
 
That is sick man ! Real sick.

I believe in what Tyler is saying...if you look at that one pic compared to the side pic, the distortion makes sense.

BK- can you do what Seeker said...pull back. I think we will see a much better representation of the shape of your helmet.

As for the moment, I am still blown away ! (PM sent !)
 
This is not a perfect comparison by a long shot, but this should start to give you a hint of the differeces in the cheeks between boba and jango.

jango_boba_01.jpg
 
Thank you Brak's...that comparison shows some of the major differences. As for the rest of you, I can't believe some of your reactions. I thought this forum was for achieving accuracy and perfection. At least I know that's the case in the Boba forums where constant photo comparisons are made and criticisms are taken to heart. In this forum the motto (with the exception of a couple of people) seems to be "it's good enough."

I realized the pin cushion effect but that is not relevant to the cheeks as you can tell from other photos of BKBT's helmet the cheeks are still deeper like Boba's. And its still a great alternative to Boba helmets. If I had the money i'd probably purchase one myself, but i'm just trying to give BKBT and others feedback for future improvements.

p.s. My theory about the differences in the cheeks is that Temuera has a fat head (like myself) so they had to make more room inside by making the cheeks shallower.
 
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Thanks for the pic, Braks. That photo clearly shows that, yes, there are differences between the helmets, as we knew, however, even with all the changes, it's very clear that the helmet started out as some sort of Boba helmet and not an entirely new sculpt.
 
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The question is...considering the size of Jango's helmet is smaller than Boba's helmet...then what Boba helmet did they start out with?
 
Foxbatkllr said:
The question is...considering the size of Jango's helmet is smaller than Boba's helmet...then what Boba helmet did they start out with?

I am not convinced the overall size is smaller. The dome is def different and I believe it may be smaller and as tyler pointed out, I believe the bottom has been trimmed, and a great deal has been reworked ut I do not necessarily believe the helemt is ACTUALLY smaller.
 
There is a problem with that idea though. Temuera Morrison is 5'7" and Jeremy Bulloch is 6' but the helmets, proportionately look the same size. Actually in some shots Jango's helmet looks even smaller proportionately to Jango than Boba's does to Boba. How can that be if they are the same size?
 
I think build wise, Temura is broader than Jeremy and that would allow him to wear the same helmet as Jeremy and have it look proportinately ok. The shorter dome would also help too.
 
I believe there is an abundant lack of concurrence by the esteemed Fett-experts on this forum about shape. There also appears to be a lack of consistent comparison of helmets from a variety of sources. As posted in this string, I see two images (on several occasions) that are compared in replies or remarks...but the positioning in the X, Y or Z axis may be off by as much as 2? or more in one or all of the axises, which makes for a flawed analysis, hence opinion, therefore making many of the arguments and complaints moot.

Also, in many of these images, there is noticeable inconsistency and unverifiable conformity or uniformity of image collection, and without quantifiable or logically undertaken analysis protocols that pertain to the afore mentioned focal length, camera position, pincushion of digital images-versus film-versus screen cell scans, aperture length, lens angle and other factors in relation to the helmets in their variety of settings...how can a picture posted on TDH convince us "Hey, that helmet is wrong". My DP 95 is wrong...that is for sure!

As we know, a 35 mm camera or digital mid-level consumer quality digital still cameras, coupled with an array of consumer-quality laser measuring devices (and the likelihood these measuring devices were fabricated in a less than perfect clinical or scientific setting - possibly using unsophisticated materials to attach the calibration array to the measuring camera - possibly even duct tape or dremel tools - nonetheless a clever, yet crude tool utilized by an eager prop maker, but not a person with valid scientific, analytical and pertinent photographic training in calibration and measurement of such devices and the intended subject).

But...I may be wrong too, and everyone else is right.

Things that make you go hmm....
 
Oh and one more thing...Mirax SST suit looks super cool!

BigaboyFett said:
I believe there is an abundant lack of concurrence by the esteemed Fett-experts on this forum about shape. There also appears to be a lack of consistent comparison of helmets from a variety of sources. As posted in this string, I see two images (on several occasions) that are compared in replies or remarks...but the positioning in the X, Y or Z axis may be off by as much as 2? or more in one or all of the axises, which makes for a flawed analysis, hence opinion, therefore making many of the arguments and complaints moot.

Also, in many of these images, there is noticeable inconsistency and unverifiable conformity or uniformity of image collection, and without quantifiable or logically undertaken analysis protocols that pertain to the afore mentioned focal length, camera position, pincushion of digital images-versus film-versus screen cell scans, aperture length, lens angle and other factors in relation to the helmets in their variety of settings...how can a picture posted on TDH convince us "Hey, that helmet is wrong". My DP 95 is wrong...that is for sure!

As we know, a 35 mm camera or digital mid-level consumer quality digital still cameras, coupled with an array of consumer-quality laser measuring devices (and the likelihood these measuring devices were fabricated in a less than perfect clinical or scientific setting - possibly using unsophisticated materials to attach the calibration array to the measuring camera - possibly even duct tape or dremel tools - nonetheless a clever, yet crude tool utilized by an eager prop maker, but not a person with valid scientific, analytical and pertinent photographic training in calibration and measurement of such devices and the intended subject).

But...I may be wrong too, and everyone else is right.

Things that make you go hmm....
:cheers
 
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