Discussion on My latest project within the Jango Fett Costume forum, part of the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy Bounty Hunters category; Just wanted to share my latest project because I know
Just wanted to share my latest project because I know some members enjoy build-up pics, like myself. I started this project briefly about a month ago but had to put it down to fill orders. I finally had a chance to revisit it while waiting for resin to come in for the backplates. I hope to have the gauntlets completed by the end of the weekend.
enjoy,
Cruzer
Last edited by Cruzer; 08-10-2007 at 01:58 PM.
Lookin good so far Lorenzo! Keep it up!
Look great. You better hurry up, school's about to begin!
Lookin' great so far!
Really? That fast, eh? Better eats yer spinach!Originally Posted by Cruzer
Ahhh, I was wondering when was you going to show something about them, never thought so far
I'm sure those are going to be the best Jango Gauntlets availible, can't wait to see them finished
Looking good bro!!!
Thanks guys.
Yeah, MandaloreFett, I go back to work on Wed. so that's why I'm pushing to get these done and start the molding. The flamethrower and whipcord build should go pretty quickly. The only piece I think will take some time is the top hose fitting for the right gauntlet.
I'm pretty happy with the detailing accuracy and the size. If they're not scaled to screen size (according to Dark-Sides measurements), then they should be but 2-3% larger. Actually I wanted to make them a tad larger because most people who suit up aren't Temura's 5'4" stature.
I've been working closely with Dark-Side as he is the "King of measurements",so I've been making the gauntlets to work perfectly with his missiles and darts.
In researching dimensions, scaling, etc., I felt strongly about concluding that both gauntlets were the same length. So, it looks like both gauntlets will measure in at 8 3/8", maybe 8 1/2"...we'll see.
Any feedback to make them more accurate, let me know.
Thanks,
Cruzer
The measurements sound about right...Thanks guys.
Yeah, MandaloreFett, I go back to work on Wed. so that's why I'm pushing to get these done and start the molding. The flamethrower and whipcord build should go pretty quickly. The only piece I think will take some time is the top hose fitting for the right gauntlet.
I'm pretty happy with the detailing accuracy and the size. If they're not scaled to screen size (according to Dark-Sides measurements), then they should be but 2-3% larger. Actually I wanted to make them a tad larger because most people who suit up aren't Temura's 5'4" stature.
I've been working closely with Dark-Side as he is the "King of measurements",
In researching dimensions, scaling, etc., I felt strongly about concluding that both gauntlets were the same length. So, it looks like both gauntlets will measure in at 8 3/8", maybe 8 1/2"...we'll see.
Any feedback to make them more accurate, let me know.
Thanks,
Cruzer
Just a quick note...Temuera is not 5'4" by any means. He is a solid 5'8"
I disagree, standing face to face with him and shaking his hand on more than one occassion, he was a good 2-3 inches below my 5'7".
There's no way Temura is 5'8" if Cruzer and Slavefive are taller than him!
Last edited by MandalorFett; 08-12-2007 at 01:13 AM.
Then he must've been on lifts both times I met him. I've met him twice, both times him being my height or a little taller and I'm 5'7 barefooted.
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/1430/1001061tn7.jpg
In this one, the girl to his left in the blue shirt is 5'7"
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9676/1002477rc1.jpg
Yeah, he's probably more around 5'5". One time we were both wearing those fashion racing type shoes (flat soles) and I was still looking down a little to look him in the eye. I'd say he's around there. I'm only about 5"6" barefooted...I need to get me some of those lifts.
great pics with Tem!
Started to curve the sides tonight. I need to look more closely at the ref. cd. pics to see if the flamethrower side of the left gauntlet is straight or curved.
I can't get my camara to let me take pics I can post that are bigger. Anybody know how?
Last edited by Cruzer; 08-11-2007 at 12:39 AM.
Looking great L!
Awesome Cruz !
Do you have another pair of gauntlet ? (MoW, ruffkin ?)
I really want to see a size comparaison
I want a pair !
Hey Lorenzo I know this is a far stretch but do you think they would fit me?
Oh yeah and PM sent on another issue.......
Great job on the modeling, they look fantastic.
can I ask a technical question? What material are you using to create these models (cardboar? Plastic?).
I am going to take a wild guess and say 3mm sintra?
Unfortunately, I don't have a pair from another maker to do a side-by-side comparison.
They will be approximately 8.5" in length, and should have a wrist circumference of approximately 10" and a forearm circumference of about 13"-13.5".
I'm using both 1/16" and 1/8" styrene (Polystyrene ABS). I prefer it over sintra because it's more rigid.
Thanks
Wow, great work C.
Thank you for answering the question. you do great work with it the Polystyrene. I would like to try moldeling with it. Do you have a web source fo the Polystyrene ABS that you use. I am not aware of any place in my area selling it.
thanks in advance for your help.
Last edited by pastafett; 08-11-2007 at 08:50 PM.
Thanks, Laan!
I've gotten all of my sheets from my local GE Polymershapes office. Here's their website to see if there's a branch near you: http://www.gepolymershapes.com/polys...nchlocator.jsp
Good luck!
Really nice buildup! What technique do you use to bend the Polystyrene ABS into curves?
MOW measurements........
right gauntlet only....
length 9 1/4"
wrist 8"
forearm 12 1/2"
so a little bigger and roomier on the inside and a little shorter in length. These should fit me!!!
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DO-A-RUN!
DO-A-RUN!
DO-A-RUN!
... Don't make me keep doing this.
Thanks MandalorFett. It's kind of a trade secretbut I use a very sophisticated piece of equipment called a "flower vase" to bend the styrene around to get the curves.
Firstsonofsolo, those measurements have changed a tad now that I have them temporarily assembled.
Length = 8.5"
Front wrist inner circumference = 9.5"
Back forearm inner circumference = 12.75"
I always hated the pinching and then wrestling with the gloves & sleeves when putting gauntlets on, so I intentionally made them a tad larger and conforming to a normally shaped forearm for comfort and ease of use. I'm hoping those dimensions will work for most arm sizes. If not, the fiberglass shells will be able to be trimmed and adjusted before being assembled to achieve smaller circumferences. It's amazing how much fiberglass can be bent with a little heat.
A-G, I've a couple of buddies in need of Jango gauntlets, so it's the whole purpose of this build. After they're taken care of then I'd be happy to make them available to members in need.
Well, progress has slowed a bit for the sake of accuracy, but I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Enjoy. and I'll gladly take any feedback that'll help make these more accurate.
Last edited by Cruzer; 08-14-2007 at 11:06 AM.
..i just received a pair of jango MoW gauntlets. they are great and fits me well. but i also agree on a little bit shorter could do much on it.
@cruzer,
great work so far ! awesome bro
A flower vase!
Thanks for the tips. A flower vase (wonders what the code word means)?
Seriously, great work! My only question is the positioning of the whip cord housing. Is it slightly too high on the gaunt?
That what I used to make my shins and shoulder bells.A flower vase!
I can't wait to see the end product!
Lookin great bro!
Ever since you told me at CIV you were going to make these, I have been patiently waiting. You are going to have the sliding pin closure right? I can't wait to see the finished product.
See, thats why I dont make anything. Im not as smrt as you guys.
Looking great!!! As always, of course!
So looking forward to the finished gauntlets.
Excellent work, I look forward to seeing the end result.
I have been looking for some nice Gauntlets.
Lorenzon there are alot more people on here that will critique you than I. My only suggestion is to blacken out any lines you may have so others can compare them to ref pics.
Personally I think they are awesome man!!
Thanks guys. I've already made a couple of modification according to some feedback, and I'll check on that whipcord positioning.
Firstsonofsolo, your right, it will be easier to discern details once everything is one color...and not a palette of plastic, glue, bondo, and spot putty!
I'm working on the flamethrower at the moment, but I actually had to report back to work today...so fewer hours to prop build now.
I should have the left gauntlet temporarily assembled by tonight, so I'll shoot some progress pics and post em.
Wow, as always, your making amazing stuff! Any guess on a price? And what are you going to cast them in? Sorry if you stated that already and I missed it. I'd love to see every little detail your putting in to these on the final product!
A few more progress pics.
Looking good as always Cruz!
...very kewel...cannot wait until these get molded
..yes its thrilling...very kewel...cannot wait until these get molded
Man those are looken sharp there. I cant wait to see the finished product. You got some
Cruzer, If you have some MoW gauntlets to put next to your gauntlets as comparision, I would really apreciate it
Thanks for the positive support guys...it's moving this project along. They are still both 8.5" in length and fit my 7.25" wrists and 12" forearms perfectly while I'm wearing wool insulated leather gloves and jumpsuit sleeves.
A few more progress pics.
Last edited by Cruzer; 08-21-2007 at 10:17 PM. Reason: better pics
great work cruzer!!
Sweetness!!! Very nice job L!
Those look great!
Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. Let me know of any suggestions.
I'll notch out the recessed areas for the exposed hinge once I receive some very accurate hinge that's coming all the way from Italy.
I'll also start fabricating the right gauntlet top hose attachment and hose fittings, and flamethrower nozzles.
I edited the thread with some better pics.
thanks
You think they'll too small for my scale?
In my opinion these have been scaled to ideally fit anyone between 5'6"-5'10"!
Just wow !
Great work Cruz.
And who sent to you the hinge??
I'm proud to have helped you,because you did a really nice job!!!!!
Now you are the really "Popeye the
Ok you win, how much for them
Wow! Great stuff C!
What? An accurate hinge? I didnt even know there was such a thing.
I thought all hinges were created equal
Dang Lorenzo, you weren't kidding. Top notch work. I would never have expected someone of your IQ to be able to craft anything so beautiful.
If saying "I think is too big" and "Is too big for me" over and over again is called helping, then yeah you did help me...temendously!And who sent to you the hinge??
I'm proud to have helped you,because you did a really nice job!!!!!
Now you are the really "Popeye the
I'll have to figure out the costs of materials, hardware, and time it takes to put together a kit and price shipping expenses before I can come up with an estimated price. After I put together a couple of kits for friends, then I'll have a better idea. However, I've told a few people that wanted a ballpark figure that I'm estimating somewhere between $200-$300 for a kit that contains everything needed for an "almost complete" assembly (i.e. shells, flamethrower, whipcord, hose fittings, nozzles, double hinges, switches, buttons, LED, & hoses)...all except for the missile and aluminum parts which I'd ask my "assistant" from Italy to provide.Ok you win, how much for them
Oh, and if I can produce them cold casted, then that'd be an option as well.
Last edited by Cruzer; 08-22-2007 at 09:53 PM.
WOW!!! That is all I can say after I picked my chin off the floor!
Anxiously awaiting for those awesome gauntlets to go into full production. Beautifull work.
[quote=Cruzer;276490]If saying "I think is too big" and "Is too big for me" over and over again is called helping, then yeah you did help me...temendously!
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I always knew you lived an alternative lifestyle. Its good to know that you finally have a set of gauntlets made to fit those Popeye proportioned arms of yours.
[quote=TxFett;276718]If saying "I think is too big" and "Is too big for me" over and over again is called helping, then yeah you did help me...temendously!
quote]
I always knew you lived an alternative lifestyle. Its good to know that you finally have a set of gauntlets made to fit those Popeye proportioned arms of yours.
I was actually refering to the various dimensions and measurements of the gauntlets.
Great work. Quit school and just make props all day. C'mon I dare ya.
I understand that. I was implying that you....you know....live on Brokeback Mountain.
Yep, I'm blown away.
Top effort Cruzer, your Gauntlets ROCK!
Can't wait to see the Dark side hinge, that should look cool.
So what sort of price are you thinking for the cold cast version?
Keep up the good work!
Those look great! You never cease to amaze me Lorenzo.
I do appreciate your sense of humor. However, I would prefer you not make that type of false implication towards me on a public forum. Thanks
Great work. Quit school and just make props all day. C'mon I dare ya.
The hinge that Dark-side can get is more accurate than the ones available to me at my local Ace Hardware or Home Depot. The pin area diameter is narrower and the link sections are longer, very similar to the hinge used on the original prop. I had a chance to see it up close at CIV and I'm convinced it's the most accurate I've ever seen.Can't wait to see the Dark side hinge, that should look cool.
So what sort of price are you thinking for the cold cast version?
As for cold casting, I have yet to try my hand at it. But I do have a reliable source, and if there are no big differences between using that type of resin and the aluminum filled resin I already use for my backplates & kid gauntlets, then I would see no reason for a price difference. I should be ordering some of the resin next week to begin doing test runs, so I'll keep you guys updated of my success...or failure
I was searching for an accurate hinge a while ago and I found this link:
http://www.hardwaresource.com/Store_...ts.asp?Cat=113
As you wish.I do appreciate your sense of humor. However, I would prefer you not make that type of false implication towards me on a public forum. Thanks
Lookin great man! I can't wait.
those are looking awesome! :thumbup
i always love a good build-up progress thread...Mmmmm
A few pics of the right hose fitting. I carved it from a bad pull I had laying around of a kid Jango flamethrower. It's made of feather light resin so it carves easily and takes a skin of bondo well to fill in all the little holes.
Thanks foxbatkllr. That's a tough call without an actual pic. I'll compare the pin diameter they give with the Home Depot stuff to see if it's any different.
Neither can I, zxwing! It'll be neat to have that first pull in my hands, especially if these go cold cast!
More build up pics.
Finished the right gauntlet top hose fitting housing and side hose fittings (which will be molded for duplication). The side hose fittings can also be dissasembled and attached to 2" brass nipples to make the flamethrower nozzles for molding purposes. Also carved the small recessed rectangular areas on the bottom of the flamethrower, and did some general spot filling before giving everything a good sand for a coat of primer today.
I'm beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel now.
I think you need a longer screw.
I looked for a longer one
Foxbatkllr, I compared the hinge measurements posted on the web link you provided...and it looks like they're identical to the Home Depot stuff.
TxFett, thanks bro for understanding. It's just that with my suave ways and movie-star-like looks(see pic below for proof)
Ok, Ok, now to the serious stuff. I need your guys' input about the metal tube that goes underneath the whipcord unit.
My question is, would you rather I incorporate one into the mold so that it is resin and permanently attached to the rest of the unit (exactly like I did with my kid gauntlets), or would people prefer I leave it off so that a real metal tube could be inserted in place there. Only problem with the latter option is that we'd have to find a good source for the metal tube that fits the bill. In the past, I've used the metal shafts from garage utility hooks, but I think they're a tad small in diameter.
thanks
Last edited by Cruzer; 08-25-2007 at 03:05 PM.
I'm gonna need to see that picture full size.
Okay, thanks for letting me know. I figured the home depot stuff was thicker but I guess not.
I'm gonna need to see that picture full size.
Last edited by Cruzer; 08-26-2007 at 08:46 AM.
..nice detail
Sorry for being immature.
In all seriousness Cruzer, I can't think of many people who put more work and attention to detail in their art. You honestly make me jealous. I can't wait to see your further progress on this project.
Great job Cruzer!
I´m speechless again
Gave everything the final coat of professional auto primer with the spray gun today. Just need to do a little finish sanding to get everything nice and smooth, glue the hose fittings to the whipcord housing...and then they'll be ready to mold.
I have no words Cruzer...
Now I can say, with a big smile in my heart, that those are the MOST ACCURATE JANGO GAUNTLETS I HAVE SEEN SO FAR !!!
Amazing work!!! you are a real beast !!!
Keep on this way, and feed our needs !!! You are like SANTA
I also can't come up with the words but, the smilies can say it all...
:thumbup
Ditto....
I also can't come up with the words but, the smilies can say it all...
:thumbup
Great work! Those gauntlets looks sooooooo clean.
Cruzer, Again, YOU ARE "THE MAN"
They turned out magnificent!
Dude! I just blew an O-ring! Sweet job!
Thanks guys, I'm glad you're happy with them!
I'm pretty happy with them also. However, they're being produced with you guys in mind and for your use, so let me know if there's anything you see that needs changing. I tried to capture all of the intricate details I felt I saw from both the CII & Paris ref. pics, from random shots like the Dressing the Galaxy runway show, and from Dark-Side's valuable input as well...even though he's still hesitant about them being "too big"!
Thanks. The type of feather-fill primer I used really works good on smoothing everything out...so I can't take all the credit. Unfortunately it also smooths out the fine details you want too keep, especially if it's sprayed on thick. So I have to go back and fine sand all the sharp corners and edges back, as well as re-etch the marks on the right gauntlet by the dartsGreat work! Those gauntlets looks sooooooo clean....but it's worth it!
I wish I could throw some hinges on them and take em for a test run, but it'd ruin them for molding...and then I wouldn't be able to share!
The length is still 8.5", and the inner "circumferences" are still approximately 9.5" at the wrist and 12.75" on the forearm, with the left gauntlet being adjusted accordingly so it sits slightly lower on the arm like in the ref. pics. Only reason I know this is because I did a test fit with leather gloves on before cutting the shells into halves.
Any questions, let me know.
Again, I'm honored you guys like em!:thumbup
Last edited by Cruzer; 08-27-2007 at 07:31 PM. Reason: Dark-Side
Ok Cruzer...
i don't know how does work the geometry in the USA...but in italy if the diameter is 12.75", the circumference is:
C= π d = 3,142 x d
that in our case is:
C= π d = 3,142 x 12.75" = 40"(101 cm)
The question is:
Can my girlfriend use your gauntles like a new starwars costume??
Like:Hi,I am dressed like the right jango gauntlet,look how it fit on my waist!!!
So, as i told you a loooooooootttt of time:
THEY ARE TOOOOO BIG!!!!
Lorenzo I'm just kiddind because you are a really great man(with HUGE forearms!!)
Are they bigger than the MOW in interior diameter??
Yes,they are,for sure!
seriusly...they are bigger.
But are they longer too?Yes,they are,for sure!
seriusly...they are bigger.
Ok,sorry guys but I don't want confuse you...But are they longer too?
All the misuraments are "almost" perfect!
I think they are only a little bit bigger in the circumferences than MOW.
For the rest,trust me,they are pretty close to the reals!
Always IMHO!!
Last edited by Dark-Side; 08-28-2007 at 07:55 AM.
I think he is talking about the perimeters, not the diameters
Am I wrong ?
yes,he talking about the circumference...I think he is talking about the perimeters, not the diameters
Am I wrong ?
Ok, first I would never compare my amature work to what I consider the work of a "master builder" (MOW) here on the boards. So I won't do that. All I can do is take measurements of my new gauntlets and post them so others can see if they may be able to use them in their costumes.
Let me snap a few pics and mark them with some dimensions and then I'll post them as soon as I can.
...is there a "strangling" smiley I can insert hereAll the misuraments are "almost" perfect!
Thanks,
Cruzer
Last edited by Cruzer; 08-28-2007 at 08:12 AM.
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