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  1. bigkidbiggertoys's Avatar
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    Apr 8, 2007, 7:18 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #26

    Thats really starting to look fantastic. The only major thing I see wrong with it is it isn't boxed up with my postal code on it!
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    Apr 9, 2007, 2:02 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #27

    Ok guys, for those of you who have been following this thread...I could use your input before I finish the backplate by building the side flaps at the bottom and pouring some silicone over it all.

    Right now the shoulders are exactly 15" wide (1" wider than BKBT's collar armor). For more accuracy, the shoulders of the backplate should be as wide as the collar piece, and the sides of the entire backplate could stand to be tapered about 1-2 degrees more.

    The problem is that I'm trying to make the backplate so that it could be used by a wide range of shoulder widths, members' heights, and those both using and not using BKBT armor.

    So my question is: should I take a little off the top sides to decrease the shoulder width more to match BKBT's collar piece? Yes/no?? Are the majority of us in need of a backplate using BKBT armor?

    Personally, about 14" would be perfect for me. So let me know what you guys think.

    Thanks,
    Lorenzo
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    Apr 9, 2007, 2:10 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #28

    I think you could leave it big & then it could be trimmed to fit after. Maybe incorporate some scribe lines into it & if the plate is to be left large these could easily be filled in.
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    Apr 9, 2007, 2:31 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #29

    Lorenzo,
    I have a suggestion;
    Make your own Collar piece to match your backplate.
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    Apr 9, 2007, 2:56 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #30

    ...then that would be one more piece I'd have to make before CIV and I already have enough to do as it is! ...plus BKBT's fits me perfectly. In a perfect world, I would have been able to buy a backplate!

    I'm thinking I'll maybe take 1/4" off each side and increase the taper just a tad.
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    Apr 9, 2007, 5:57 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #31

    Quote Cruzer said: View Post
    Looks like there are a few dimensions I need to fix on the main body. Thanks again to Benkenove!
    I agree with that. Back armor should need a more triangular form. Great piece though!!
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    Apr 9, 2007, 9:32 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #32

    I would say,leave it bigger and let the member trim to size,more or less one size fits all.but thats just my 2 cents "measure 3 times cut once"
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    Apr 11, 2007, 3:29 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #33

    Ok, I increased the taper on the sides a couple degrees and even gave it a taper going from the front to the back. The shoulders came out to 14.75" wide, and the pen line is the cut line to make it the proportionate 15" tall like in the ref. pics. However, I'm going to leave it long for trimming. Tomorrow I add the side lower flaps and then call it done...if there are no objections that is.
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    Apr 11, 2007, 9:44 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #34

    Looks great!
  10. Apr 11, 2007, 10:14 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #35

    Cruzer, once again bro, GREAT WORK!

    Ok, now so you'll know where to send it to, my address is...

    In all seriousness, if you're intending on doing a run, I'm in!

    THX in Advance!



    P.S. How are you itending on handeling the arc on the bottom? OR are you leaving it flush and depending on where each individual trims the length, it would then be up to them to cut that part out?
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    Apr 11, 2007, 10:24 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #36

    LOVE IT!

    any idea on cost?
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    Apr 11, 2007, 10:47 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #37

    You could add a paper template for the arc & then let each person cut & finish it to their own length.
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    Apr 11, 2007, 11:57 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #38

    Thanks guys.
    BKBT, I'll definitely use your template suggestion. That would probably be the best for that circular cut out, GBH.

    I'm still not completely satisfied with the outside shape, and it's bugging me. Something still seems to be off a tad. I'm wondering if the taper on the top is less than the taper on the bottom of the original.

    As for price, as cheap as possible, guys. I know I'll have to run down to my local Officemax for extra large boxes ($5-$6), and shipping weight may run 5-7 lbs. So let me figure out the cost of materials and estimate the shipping costs and I'll get back to you guys on that. But I am hoping for about $75 or less.

    Thanks,
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    Apr 11, 2007, 12:42 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #39

    Cruzer, when you put the bottom flaps on, then take a look at it. It may help your eye follow that shape better, know what i mean?

    Im in for that price!
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    Apr 11, 2007, 12:56 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #40

    I would do the cut-out according to the "accurate" size, so those with the longer backplate will just have a bigger cut-out.
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    Apr 11, 2007, 1:22 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #41

    CGClone, yeah I know what you mean.

    Foxbatkllr, that's also a good idea.

    The curvature on the side flaps will be placed based on the accurate sizing as well. So the side flaps will be a little longer for anyone that does not trim the back.

    Here's a an overlay pic that Benkenove was kind enough to produce for me.

    Thanks guys for the productive input. It has really been essential in making this backplate very accurate. I like the fact this has been a group effort, so hopefully I can show my appreciation by offering these at a very low price.:thumbup

    Today after work I'll shave down the insides of the collar area a tad to flatten out some of that height, taper the sides a tad where the side flap is, and adjust the bottom part of the lines for the inner circle so that is matches the blue lines on the overlay pic a little more, and bring up the jp strap areas a bit.

    I'll post update pics later tonight.

    Thanks guys,
    Cruzer
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    Apr 13, 2007, 9:41 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #42

    Here's the latest.
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    Apr 13, 2007, 9:52 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #43

    Nice bro

    cant wait to see it with side flares....
  19. Apr 13, 2007, 10:12 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #44

    Ohhhhhhh! NICE AND CRISP!!!
  20. Apr 13, 2007, 10:15 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #45

    Hey Cruzer, one other question I have for you, what's the distance currently between the bottom of portion of the neck curve and the line the black line you have drawn?

    THX

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    Apr 13, 2007, 11:11 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #46

    Sorry guys I didn't post much in specifics, I just wanted to post the pic real quick before getting off to work.

    Here's some of the dimensions:

    • neck hole: same diameter as BKBT collar (complete coincidence & not planned...seriously...so worked out perfect!)
    • shoulder width: 14.5"
    • from the top of the outside of the shoulder to the black cut line: 14.5"
    • taper from front to back 85 degrees
    GBH, so I would approximate that the distance you asked for is about 14.5", but I can measure it later today.

    hope that helps,

    Here's a side by side until we can get an overlay...oh, Benkenove !
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  22. Apr 13, 2007, 11:28 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #47

    same diameter as BKBT collar (complete coincidence & not planned...seriously...so worked out perfect!)

    AWESOME!!! I love how thing's like that just happen all accidental like!

    Is there a chance you'll have any of these available in time for C4, maybe, possibly???
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    Apr 13, 2007, 11:56 AM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #48

    Good question GBH!
    I still have to figure out what I'm going to do for gauntlets for CIV and if nothing comes up, I'll be resuming a gauntlet build I started about a month ago. Which means I won't make any molds until all my current projects are done. So if I do make any pulls, they won't be until probably the beginning of May. If so, I may take a few orders, but will just have to see what kind of time crunch I've got going on.
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    Apr 13, 2007, 12:08 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #49

    Fantastic Work! I'd be one of those people whose fine with waiting till after C4.

    And what's this gauntlet build you're talking about?
  25. Apr 13, 2007, 12:30 PM - Re: My 20 lb. back armor! #50

    Cruzer! How many sweet gauntlet builds have you done already? The problem is you keep selling them off! Stop doing that and just keep a set for yourself for once!

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