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MR Westar mold experiment

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    Cruzer, if you can pull this off with a good looking finished rubber blaster, then I'm sure that myself and ton of other Jangos here will only need to know one thing... how much!

    Looking forward to seeing your progress.

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    Well, I'm molding something that's already been made. So that's going to help keep the cost low because I didn't have to spend any time making a master. Another good thing about Westars is they'll need very little resin to cast. And if I can keep any clean-up on my part down to nil, then that's less I have to charge for my time, unlike gauntlets and/or holsters that include a lot of labor and materials. So I'm hoping to produce these at a very affordable price.

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    so one thing i've been looking into is making squishy gaffi sticks for tusken raiders.

    in the process of researching it i found this tutorial on making a foam sword:
    http://www.reynoldsam.com/gallery.ph...084&cPath=1121

    most interesting was the "cast magic" silver pigment. brushed into the mold, then it bonds with the foam as it cures. supposedly it won't crack or peel off.

    could be interesting for the westars

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    Thanks for the idea and link. It looks like there is definitely some potential there for use in this project. I was aware of the metallic pigments, but I had no idea they could be used with the foam. Since brushing the blaster mold in two differnt hues could prove tricky, I could see casting the entire blaster in silver and then painting the handles. Just might work. I'll be ordering some soon. Thanks again for bringing that to light!

    Rubber gaffi sticks would be very cool!

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    Well I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread anyway. Any alternative to the elusive MR's is welcome. My Rubies suck big.

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    I myself would be in for a set Cruzer, I'm looking forward to see just how this project comes out!

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    ill be watching as well...if they are cheap enough they would make for a good second pair that could be used for events where you dont want to carry the more expensive machined alternatives

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    Well there was a small delay (completely my fault) in getting the catalyst for the silicone I received last week, but it finally arrived today. So I quickly got to work and poured the first sides of the molds. Tomorrow morning I'll do the second sides, and by Saturday I should be ready to make my first test copy. Looks like I'm going to need some guidance from the Sci-Fire guys, so I may travel to the shop this weekend in search of expert advice!
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    sweetnesss...mmmmmmmmmm

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    Just out of curiosity, I cant see it too well from the pics, but the "heat dispensers" that are along side the barrel where you can visibly see the inner brass tube, did you fill that up before adding the silicone? I think that would have produced a nasty undercut for the mold

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    now i see how you use my things....there is kid missile on the floor!!!!!

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    tubachris85x said: View Post
    Just out of curiosity, I cant see it too well from the pics, but the "heat dispensers" that are along side the barrel where you can visibly see the inner brass tube, did you fill that up before adding the silicone? I think that would have produced a nasty undercut for the mold
    I actually filled that cavity with a piece of brass pipe that fit very tightly so there would be no undercut what-so-ever. I accidently pulled the barrel out of the mold and the one half looked very very good. All of the detail was captured perfectly!

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    now i see how you use my things....there is kid missile on the floor!!!!!
    That is the master! J/K, it is a bad pull that had no armature so it is very spongy. I will use it to throw at my son when he is not listening!

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    Awesome!! I cant wait to see your test copy.

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    The second side is poured. I may have screwed up the barrel mold by allowing some of the silicone to seep under the barrel, so in 4 hours I will demold it and see if I indeed did. If so, I'll begin making a new one today, so no big deal.

    Also, I found out the paint finish used on the handles is pretty much the equivalent of spray paint. The Sculpty clay I had used (last minute) to clay up the handle pretty much ate up the paint finish. It only does that to spray paint like paints...so MR really fell short when it came to the finish on the handles. A coat of paint and it's no longer a problem.
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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    looks great Cruzer! wow that clay did eat up that paint huh. did it do anything to the finish on the barrel?

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    I thought you sanded the heck out of it.

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    Cruzer said: View Post
    I accidently pulled the barrel out of the mold and the one half looked very very good. All of the detail was captured perfectly!
    Cruzer said: View Post
    I may have screwed up the barrel mold by allowing some of the silicone to seep under the barrel
    that sounds VERY likely... if you pull the piece out of once side before pouring the other, you'll almost surely get some leakage.

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    I can hardly wait to see how this turns out Cruzer. The thought of having Hyperfirm style rubber Westars is just too sweet.

    I wouldn't have to worry about little kids grabbing at my blasters with a rubber set. Which would save my resin ones for troops where grabbing hands are less of an issue... or I could simply keep them for display too.

    Just make sure that you give us enough notice, as it takes me a week to upload funds to my Paypal. :thumbup

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    I personally havent been to intrested in alot lately, but this has my attention 100% because I want some

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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    Well, the second side turned out just as good as the first side. The silicone was able to capture all of the details. I was wrong about the leakage...and how happy I am to be wrong this time! Tomorrow at the shop I'll be able to find out exactly what's entailed in making rubber blasters from these. After that I'll be able to calculate an approximate price I can offer these at based on materials/hardware used and labor involved.

    Jango 72, how about I'll have the first few sets pulled by tomorrow...is that enough notice?

    Tk7602, I even had to take out the handle to sand down the damage the sculpty clay caused, so I guess I got lucky this time.

    Jango 5204, I'm really sorry about your handle. I did have to take some acetone to it and feather sand the heck out of that side due to the clay pretty much eating the paint and primer. So I'll spray them with some Dupli-Color silver to help smooth them out again for you. I'm so glad you already had plans to repaint them.:thumbup

    BobaFettSlave_1, it didn't do anything to the aluminum finish, however, I would recommend using some Klean Klay or something else when you clay up your blasters. My Klean Klay arrived with the catalyst and I've already tested it out on a semi black spray painted surface and it didn't do any damage. Let me know if you need a source for it.

    TR4059, glad I could be of service.

    cheers
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    Re: MR Westar mold experiment

    molds are so wierd to look at.... they trick you and start looking 3D. Just throw a set in the box with the MRs ol' buddy ol' pal. pleeease with whip cream and cherry on top.

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    wow thats a pretty mold

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    Thanks. The keys in the cavity of the handle occured to me at the very last minute, so I'm glad I realized something would be needed there to keep those two joining pieces aligned. Hope you see some details that might prove beneficial in your molds. Let me know if I can be any help.

    Luckily, the handle made a full recovery! I may just have to borrow the other trigger so I can do both versions. I was also thinking of making a resin pull and modifying the trigger by widening the hole a little so regular sized fingers in gloves can fit better. We'll see. Thanks, Jango 5204.
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    Great mold! Keep up the good work man

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    First sets pulled by tomorrow!!

    That's a little bit too soon, but I'm happy none the less! :thumbup

    Just let me know what the financial damage is going to be so I can start scrimping my pennies.

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