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  1. BobaFettSlave_1's Avatar
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    Jun 10, 2008, 1:13 AM - MasterReplicas copys? #1

    im thinking of getting a set of MRs now that i lost another webley and i was wondring if it would be frowned upon by making copys. i dont know if ide makem 100% resin, machined with resin grips or 100% aluminium. havent got to that point yet. ill probobly see if some of the members around me can help with this project if its a go. im only curious if #1 this is a wize idea. theres alot of gray here #2 if theres interest.
    so please let me know what you guys think. im gunna grab a set anyway seeing as i need a set for my jango project.
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    Jun 10, 2008, 4:27 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #2

    At a guess, I would say it would be copyright infringement. You would basically become a recaster.
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    Jun 10, 2008, 8:24 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #3

    well im getting alot of 50/50 here. logic dictates if one would just have a machinist make copys itd be ok cause they were made from specs given from lucasfilm correct? imean its not like MR made these from scratch
    regardless im only going to do this if i get the forums OK. last thing i need is to be labeled a recaster when im just trying to help because we dont have any westar makers
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    Jun 10, 2008, 9:06 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #4

    I asked the same question a while ago. Here is the link with the respones. http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=22968 . In my opinion MRs are becoming increasingly difficult and very very expensive to get a hold of, and the members here need a good and inexpensive resin alternative.

    Just to let you know, I did recently have a fellow member send me one of his MRs too look at for the possibility of making a couple of 2-piece molds from. However, please don't let that stall your pursuit of this project, as I don't know exactly how far and fast I'll be able to go with mine. I really do mean that. I'm more fascinated in the challenges associated with fabricating the molds than wanting to make copies.
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    Jun 10, 2008, 9:53 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #5

    resin is brittle. make it (if you do) out of plastic or rubber
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    Jun 10, 2008, 10:22 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #6

    everybody gets their basis for a project from someone....religion- one established religion comes out, then shortly after another branch is formed and then called its own. Microsoft took Apples O.S. then a few minor changes Bam.... Windows.. so I cant see whats wrong with taking a M.R. as a basis put a few of your touches to it (either minor or major) then wall-la!! BobaFettSlave_1 V1.0 what I'm trying to say is we all get are basic Ideas from someone else. Its not like the Westars, armor, helmets, etc never existed before. we all basicly recasted it from ILM.
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    Jun 10, 2008, 11:00 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #7

    The basic way Re-casting works is if 'Item A' (be it a blaster or helmet or whatever) is that produced by a person/artist/company who has a current licence, or is a current manufacturer of said product. Now if a person purchases that product and makes a copy/copies to distribute themselves, without permission from the original artist/person/company, then that is Re-casting.. Also re-casting can be also labelled to someone who has made a copy of the original without altering it in any way, permission or not.

    However, if the Original Artist/Person/Company loses the licence to make that product, or announces that the product will not be made anymore and is unavailable in stock permanantly, then that opens up a loophole into a Grey Area between Re-Casting and Not Re-casting...

    The issue of Casting off of MR items have come up a few times, and im sure that it will many more.... Personally they have publically announced that no more Star Wars items will be made... so in all fairness if a fan or someone takes up the mantle to create these items at very near to, if not, cost price then I wouldnt consider that as Re-casting, nor slap that label on them...

    Thats my 2 cents...
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    Jun 10, 2008, 12:18 PM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #8

    I say go for it.
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    Jun 10, 2008, 12:50 PM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #9

    MR isn't even around anymore so I would say definitely go for it. That's what they get for charging so much for replicas haha!
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    Jun 10, 2008, 1:35 PM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #10

    anyone know how solid the MRs are? are they break downable?
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    Jun 10, 2008, 2:00 PM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #11

    I have never done it to mine, but they can be taken apart.
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    Jun 10, 2008, 2:02 PM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #12

    awesome than that makes the job alot easier
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    Jun 11, 2008, 12:02 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #13

    ok well im going to try and get ahold of a set of these then talk to some machinists
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    Jun 11, 2008, 1:54 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #14

    Here's a tear-down pic for you.
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    Jun 11, 2008, 1:58 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #15

    hope that goes back together How did you get to the little allen head inside the tube? Cut a allen wrench? Let me know how those things come apart, I'd like to re-do the handles.
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    Jun 11, 2008, 2:01 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #16

    Of course! I only had to break them in three different areas! j/k
    Disassembling them was a piece of cake. They'll go back together perfectly...I promise.

    Thanks for lending them to me.
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    Jun 11, 2008, 2:16 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #17

    your awsome Cruzer! thanks for the break down pic
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    Jun 11, 2008, 2:18 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #18

    Is that a good way to remove the orange barrel plug?
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    Jun 11, 2008, 2:31 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #19

    Glad to help, BobaFettSlave_1!

    Quote Jango 5204 said: View Post
    hope that goes back together How did you get to the little allen head inside the tube? Cut a allen wrench? Let me know how those things come apart, I'd like to re-do the handles.
    I had to insert something into the trigger area that wouldn't fall out and then gently tap down on it to pull out the trigger piece and reveal the two allen bolts attaching the handle to the barrel.

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    Is that a good way to remove the orange barrel plug?
    It looks like the orange piece is just an aluminum plug that might be able to be tapped out from the inside.
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    Jun 11, 2008, 2:31 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #20

    SO yeah, im interested, I've wanted some but I, like many can't afford the real deal haha.
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    Jun 11, 2008, 2:37 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #21

    wow, so the little piece with the 2 holes sits down in the handle, and the 2 screws go through that? Trigger held on by some glue? You think the CA glue would hold it back in place?

    loks like those 2 screws are the key to breaking it apart after you've unscrewed the barrell?
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    Jun 11, 2008, 2:51 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #22

    That little piece is just the trigger piece upside down. Like I had suspected it was just glued in place with some epoxy. It can be reglued with anything.
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    Jun 11, 2008, 3:01 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #23

    cant get the trigger out, whats the secret. without chipping the handles?
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    Jun 11, 2008, 3:04 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #24

    You have to insert something (preferably round) in the trigger, place the gun on the carpet or something soft on the base of the handle and the barrel, then tap gently in a downward motion on the thing you placed through the trigger.
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    Jun 11, 2008, 3:06 AM - Re: MasterReplicas copys? #25

    You know how A.D.D. I am, I'm doing it right now!!! LOL

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