MasterReplicas copys?

im thinking of getting a set of MRs now that i lost another webley and i was wondring if it would be frowned upon by making copys. i dont know if ide makem 100% resin, machined with resin grips or 100% aluminium. havent got to that point yet. ill probobly see if some of the members around me can help with this project if its a go. im only curious if #1 this is a wize idea. theres alot of gray here #2 if theres interest.
so please let me know what you guys think. im gunna grab a set anyway seeing as i need a set for my jango project.

At a guess, I would say it would be copyright infringement. You would basically become a recaster.

I asked the same question a while ago. Here is the link with the respones. http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f28/just-question-about-westar-blasters-limited-availability-22968/ . In my opinion MRs are becoming increasingly difficult and very very expensive to get a hold of, and the members here need a good and inexpensive resin alternative.

Just to let you know, I did recently have a fellow member send me one of his MRs too look at for the possibility of making a couple of 2-piece molds from. However, please don't let that stall your pursuit of this project, as I don't know exactly how far and fast I'll be able to go with mine. I really do mean that. I'm more fascinated in the challenges associated with fabricating the molds than wanting to make copies.

resin is brittle. make it (if you do) out of plastic or rubber

everybody gets their basis for a project from someone....religion- one established religion comes out, then shortly after another branch is formed and then called its own. Microsoft took Apples O.S. then a few minor changes Bam.... Windows.. so I cant see whats wrong with taking a M.R. as a basis put a few of your touches to it (either minor or major) then wall-la!! BobaFettSlave_1 V1.0 what I'm trying to say is we all get are basic Ideas from someone else. Its not like the Westars, armor, helmets, etc never existed before. we all basicly recasted it from ILM.

The basic way Re-casting works is if 'Item A' (be it a blaster or helmet or whatever) is that produced by a person/artist/company who has a current licence, or is a current manufacturer of said product. Now if a person purchases that product and makes a copy/copies to distribute themselves, without permission from the original artist/person/company, then that is Re-casting.. Also re-casting can be also labelled to someone who has made a copy of the original without altering it in any way, permission or not.

However, if the Original Artist/Person/Company loses the licence to make that product, or announces that the product will not be made anymore and is unavailable in stock permanantly, then that opens up a loophole into a Grey Area between Re-Casting and Not Re-casting...

The issue of Casting off of MR items have come up a few times, and im sure that it will many more.... Personally they have publically announced that no more Star Wars items will be made... so in all fairness if a fan or someone takes up the mantle to create these items at very near to, if not, cost price then I wouldnt consider that as Re-casting, nor slap that label on them...

Thats my 2 cents...

I say go for it.

MR isn't even around anymore so I would say definitely go for it. That's what they get for charging so much for replicas haha!

anyone know how solid the MRs are? are they break downable?

I have never done it to mine, but they can be taken apart.

awesome than that makes the job alot easier

ok well im going to try and get ahold of a set of these then talk to some machinists

Here's a tear-down pic for you.

hope that goes back together How did you get to the little allen head inside the tube? Cut a allen wrench? Let me know how those things come apart, I'd like to re-do the handles.

Of course! I only had to break them in three different areas! j/k
Disassembling them was a piece of cake. They'll go back together perfectly...I promise.

Thanks for lending them to me.

your awsome Cruzer! thanks for the break down pic

Is that a good way to remove the orange barrel plug?

Glad to help, BobaFettSlave_1!

Originally Posted by Jango 5204

hope that goes back together How did you get to the little allen head inside the tube? Cut a allen wrench? Let me know how those things come apart, I'd like to re-do the handles.

I had to insert something into the trigger area that wouldn't fall out and then gently tap down on it to pull out the trigger piece and reveal the two allen bolts attaching the handle to the barrel.

Originally Posted by Foxbatkllr

Is that a good way to remove the orange barrel plug?

It looks like the orange piece is just an aluminum plug that might be able to be tapped out from the inside.

SO yeah, im interested, I've wanted some but I, like many can't afford the real deal haha.

wow, so the little piece with the 2 holes sits down in the handle, and the 2 screws go through that? Trigger held on by some glue? You think the CA glue would hold it back in place?

loks like those 2 screws are the key to breaking it apart after you've unscrewed the barrell?

That little piece is just the trigger piece upside down. Like I had suspected it was just glued in place with some epoxy. It can be reglued with anything.

cant get the trigger out, whats the secret. without chipping the handles?

You have to insert something (preferably round) in the trigger, place the gun on the carpet or something soft on the base of the handle and the barrel, then tap gently in a downward motion on the thing you placed through the trigger.

You know how A.D.D. I am, I'm doing it right now!!! LOL

DUDE you rock!!:thumbup Took about 3 seconds using the "cruser method" Sweet. You can leave the trigger out when you send it back. Just light screw everything back together. I'm going to get apint match and re-paint the handles, they're all chipped up.

Originally Posted by Jango 5204

I'm going to get apint match and re-paint the handles, they're all chipped up.

I really couldnt believe these MR's had painted handles until I tightened the scews when they became loose and the paint flaked off around them. Add that to the list of things I've been meaning to do in maybe casting myself some tinted color handles, that and fitting some bright LED's in them without butchering the the gun externally.

Is it possible to take the front of the barrel off without messing with the trigger (to remove the barrel plug)?

From looking at the picture of the disassembled blaster, I'd say that the brass sleeve is held in place by the front muzzle and the back power cell.

I would assume that you could remove it by unscrewing one or both ends and then simply slide it apart.

I concur. If you are making available items that are no longer made then you are keeping the costs down for supply and demand. If SgtFang quit making helms and sold the molds to someone else would that person get banned for continuing the work??? I say go for it!!!

Originally Posted by Alcfalath

The basic way Re-casting works is if 'Item A' (be it a blaster or helmet or whatever) is that produced by a person/artist/company who has a current licence, or is a current manufacturer of said product. Now if a person purchases that product and makes a copy/copies to distribute themselves, without permission from the original artist/person/company, then that is Re-casting.. Also re-casting can be also labelled to someone who has made a copy of the original without altering it in any way, permission or not.

However, if the Original Artist/Person/Company loses the licence to make that product, or announces that the product will not be made anymore and is unavailable in stock permanantly, then that opens up a loophole into a Grey Area between Re-Casting and Not Re-casting...

The issue of Casting off of MR items have come up a few times, and im sure that it will many more.... Personally they have publically announced that no more Star Wars items will be made... so in all fairness if a fan or someone takes up the mantle to create these items at very near to, if not, cost price then I wouldnt consider that as Re-casting, nor slap that label on them...

Thats my 2 cents...

Originally Posted by Foxbatkllr

Is it possible to take the front of the barrel off without messing with the trigger (to remove the barrel plug)?

Unscrew the little set screw at the tip, on the bottom. Unscrew the barrell, you might have to grab to brass tip with a set of pliers, but it comes off really easy. Once the brass inset is out, undo the set ecrew all the way and the bulbous tip comes off. Be careful, I dropped that tiny set screw last night, luckily I found it.

You can push the insert, but it's really nice. Has a rubber gasket inset to keep it in place. If you remove it all you'll see is the star shaped opening on the brass tip assembly.

ok well i got a set coming my way. cost me a god **** fortune though. but ide rather pay now than more later

just confirming what Cruzer said. the orange plug is easily removable. they are just held in with rubber o rings

I think CC is a great idea. CC proved too intensive of a process for me to master, but if you could, I'd imagine they'd turn out very nice!

Project Shut Down/ On Hold- for lack of interest

Wow Cruz! You have a lot of guts taking that baby apart...
hehe! ...... Now, I :thumbup you.