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    Apr 14, 2006, 2:54 PM - Making gaunts.... #1

    ..here i would like to show u the process of my gauntlet models.
    here the left upper part. but its not finished yet.....
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    Apr 14, 2006, 3:06 PM - Re: Making gaunts.... #2

    wowwwwwwwww, amazing bro! how have you done them?
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    Apr 14, 2006, 3:23 PM - Re: Making gaunts.... #3

    i used clay. for these pics my girlfriend works about 6 days ago ;o)
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    Apr 14, 2006, 5:41 PM - Re: Making gaunts.... #4

    Awesome work!! Did you use Wizards templates?
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    Apr 15, 2006, 2:38 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #5

    my girlfriend and i use reference pics from the exhibition shots and others i have collected
    it was not easy! cause we want find the best size to fit it out...
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    Apr 15, 2006, 7:26 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #6

    some more shots
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    Apr 15, 2006, 9:50 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #7

    super!! if there are gonna be casts for sale..i'm on the list!
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    Apr 15, 2006, 11:36 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #8

    Cool work man.
    I always thought I would do them as a hard line sculpture, I never thought about doing them out of clay.
    I just might change my tactic.
    From a fellow sculptor...good job!
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    Apr 15, 2006, 1:33 PM - Re: Making gaunts.... #9

    Whew, amazing job! That really blows me away!
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    Apr 16, 2006, 1:28 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #10

    AWESOME!!! Keep up the good work my friend!!! :thumbup
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    Apr 17, 2006, 11:29 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #11

    here are some from the lower side.
    NOT READY JET !!!
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    Apr 17, 2006, 11:31 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #12

    WOW!
    Most impressive!
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    Apr 18, 2006, 12:32 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #13

    UPDATEs ....

    @Bleahhh, thank for ur kind words but its far away for any casts.

    now the clay needs to dry a bit before making new molds.
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    May 24, 2006, 9:33 PM - Re: Making gaunts.... #14

    Wow, these are looking awesome!! Any updates on em?
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    May 24, 2006, 10:20 PM - Re: Making gaunts.... #15

    You have more courage than I do my friend for making those out of clay. Looking good. Keep up the good work and determination!
    Cruzer
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    May 25, 2006, 4:19 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #16

    ..man thanks i need that motivation

    well... here a short update. we (me and my girlfriend) have made a plaster cast. cause clay shrinks while it dried.
    we could start with fiberglass, but we would destroy the plaster cast to get out the gaunt.
    and making a new gaunt with clay ervery time and making plaster clay etc... is to stressfull.
    we are searching for any ideas to fix a mold like the plaster cast, or fixing a gaunt ...
    oh i forgot to say searching time

    enjoy!
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    May 27, 2006, 10:14 PM - Re: Making gaunts.... #17

    pls...make a mass order!!!
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    May 28, 2006, 2:02 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #18

    Here is what you do but it will cost money.
    First pour Silicone rubber into the plaster molds and i mean fill them completely.
    Once the Silicone has set up remove the solid Silicone positives and don't worry if you have to destroy the plaster (and or Ultracal) in the process.
    Now you have 2 Silicone positives.
    Flip them on their backs so they look like your original sculptures.
    Brush layers of Liquid Latex over both of them to create jackets of rubber. Silicone will not stick to Latex.
    Brush enough latex to cover any undercuts and be patient letting each layer dry completely.
    Now you can back that with either strips of plaster bandages or Ultracal for support.
    When it's all dry flip it over and remove the Silicone positive.
    Now you can fiberglass into the Latex mold as many gauntlets as you want.
    Remember once you start glassing to use a mold release on the latex.
    Keep the silicone positives in a plastic bag in a dark area for creating future molds as the Latex ones wear out.
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    May 28, 2006, 4:53 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #19

    They are an awesome self made gauntlets bro!!! I can wait to see one of those finished
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    May 31, 2006, 1:25 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #20

    ..thank u boba matz,
    yes i thought it will cost a lot $

    in time we are only working on the left gaunt. reports will be post....
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    May 31, 2006, 6:15 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #21

    Quote Boba Maltz said:
    Here is what you do but it will cost money.
    First pour Silicone rubber into the plaster molds and i mean fill them completely.
    Once the Silicone has set up remove the solid Silicone positives and don't worry if you have to destroy the plaster (and or Ultracal) in the process.
    Now you have 2 Silicone positives.
    Flip them on their backs so they look like your original sculptures.
    Brush layers of Liquid Latex over both of them to create jackets of rubber. Silicone will not stick to Latex.
    Brush enough latex to cover any undercuts and be patient letting each layer dry completely.
    Now you can back that with either strips of plaster bandages or Ultracal for support.
    When it's all dry flip it over and remove the Silicone positive.
    Now you can fiberglass into the Latex mold as many gauntlets as you want.
    Remember once you start glassing to use a mold release on the latex.
    Keep the silicone positives in a plastic bag in a dark area for creating future molds as the Latex ones wear out.
    that's very cool advise!! thnx

    I have a question though... how do you deal with self curing and thus shrinking latex? or is there a different latex that won't shrink when curing?


    awesome gaunt sculpts by the way!!
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    May 31, 2006, 11:47 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #22

    Thanks man always nice to help help out.
    Two things can help with the shrinkage.
    1) When you feel you have brushed on enough latex to capture all the details and undercuts you could dip strips of cheese cloth into latex and apply them all over as one of the final layers.
    2) Using that mold release liberally.
    Personally I really wouldn’t bother with the cheese cloth thing and just accept that with a latex mold you’re only going to get maybe 10 good pulls. You’ll always have your silicone positives to create new molds anyways.
    If you imbed the latex with cheese cloth on a complex shape it might be hard to pull the rubber off of the positive.
    The use of Silicone as a mold in the first place is your best way to go.
    I know everything in my last post sounds like a lot of work but it’s worth it.
    A good rule of thumb anytime you make a mold of something (if it’s not too huge) is to make Epoxy masters as your first pull. Then in the future you can always pull new molds off of those.
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    May 31, 2006, 12:32 PM - Re: Making gaunts.... #23

    great work, and great info
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    Jun 1, 2006, 10:29 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #24

    what type of clay should be used for something like this? i have been wanting to sculpt some things and cast them in resin or fiberglass. but im not sure what clay to use to sculpt them.

    can anyone help me?
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    Jun 1, 2006, 11:05 AM - Re: Making gaunts.... #25

    I know a lot of people go out of their way to use an oil based clay but it's really not necessary especially on a large piece..
    For large projects you can use a water based clay like AdmFrancis did here.
    Its cheaper and you would be surprised at the amount of detail you can get from it.
    I use a water based clay called WED Clay that Walt Disney formulated for his Imagineers
    It has a super smooth consistency and if you keep your project damp with a spray bottle and covered with a plastic trash bag you can work on it for months.
    For hard line sculptures like the gauntlets I sometimes do a quick and dirty sculpture, pull a mold and cast the piece up in resin or fiberglass and then do all my finish work on that with auto body filler or a two part putty like Magic-Sculp.
    BM

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