Machined westar interest thread/sign up

I told the machinist that we are aiming between 200-400 for them per set, but told him we would prefer the cheapest price possible

Ok. Are these going to be completely finished when they are shipped to us? Like, no painting, no assembly, no additional parts required? Obviously weathering would be required if you're into that.

Second question... how hard is it to get a hold of one of the MR blaster sets?
I can understand if they are completely sold out everywhere and nobody wants to give them up, why this machining endeavor would be a necessary task.

I'm new to this. Ignore me if I'm asking stupid questions.
 
Ok. Are these going to be completely finished when they are shipped to us? Like, no painting, no assembly, no additional parts required? Obviously weathering would be required if you're into that.

Second question... how hard is it to get a hold of one of the MR blaster sets?
I can understand if they are completely sold out everywhere and nobody wants to give them up, why this machining endeavor would be a necessary task.

I'm new to this. Dont ignore me if I'm asking good questions.

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1st answer: If they go through, they should be completly made and finished, according to the machinist. I sent him this link to use as a reference for how they should be assembled. However, we wont know just yet. Im going to send another email to him, but we'll see, as the "zen master" says..

2nd answer: Extremely hard to get. I was fortunate enough to get a set for myself for a very reasonable price too. The sad thing is that people on ebay are charging up to $900 for a set of MR's, and that dosnt help anyone who's trying to piece together a good jango that would already be up to $1500+ more already in pieces alone.
 
**UPDATE**

As promised I also hae been sourcing out a couple of engineers in the UK. Has anyone got some good shematic / drawing s that I can forward on to my contact.

The added advantage of the guy I found is his whole family are SW costumers and they own a custom CNC engineering firm.

Please forward drawings / data to my email: adamfield5@hotmail.com

Thanks guys, al least we havea backup ... just in case :)
 
**UPDATE**

As promised I also hae been sourcing out a couple of engineers in the UK. Has anyone got some good shematic / drawing s that I can forward on to my contact.

The added advantage of the guy I found is his whole family are SW costumers and they own a custom CNC engineering firm.

Please forward drawings / data to my email: adamfield5@hotmail.com

Thanks guys, al least we havea backup ... just in case :)

Just sent you the WOF diagrams ;)
 
Im thinking 6061 yes. But the machinist will cover all that with you. He will know which ones will have the right finishes, and will do what you want. I think 7k alum is just too hard for this application.

The RC car parts we have made, are done in 6061 cheaply, and 7075 for the expensive ones. But they hit walls going 50 miles an hour. Your pistols should be able to be done with the cheapest alum.

The other question is does any of it need to be 'anodized' or is it all base color. Only part of that alum can be anodized.

Im looking at the link you posted for kropserkel, and the gun doesnt look as bad as I thought.

The barrel is probably 18 dollars worth of materials. The grip is another 30. Now, im not sure how the grips go to gether, but it appears they may be three pieces, or two pieces (both sides with a hollowed out insert).

The emitter, and rear of the gun are not that big ofa deal. The main body isnt so bad either.

The grip will be a nightmare for anyone but someone really good at cad to create. I notice theres a 3d design on the site, But again, 3d 'visual' and cad are two different animals.

The grip is almost hand chamfered. It looks like it was sculpted, and then die cast or something. Its not a perfect chamfer so thats where the most of the design work will go in on the cad drawings, and thats where you have the most room for error.

I think that you have about $50 worth of components here + the machining.

I think its doable for a blaster for 150 bucks.

Im not sure if aluminum is a 'tumble' polisher or not. But some metals are 'tumbled' in a vat of ceramic beads, and it makes it shiny/buffed. Regardless you have at least 3 fimishes in here, which is a little extra money.

If you can get past the hand grip part, your golden.

Again, im not trying to be a jerk in any way, I just dont want you to get taken advantage of.

And my client has not returned my email yet, but he will and I will ask him for a quote and to contact you at least for a second opinion.
 
it's nice to see resources coming together for this project and i am totally in for a set when we get it nailed down. i knew with the amount of talented folks on here someone would be able to grab this baby by the horns and ride the full eight!
 
I've forwarded the drawings on to my contact.

I should be able to report back with availablility and price within a week, giving us a back up plan. Its always good to have a "Plan B" :D
 
You guys should probably point out to your sources that if these turn out to be really good, they can probably expect a lot of repeat interest. That might also help with possible pricing, or willingness to participate. I know the SW Jango community is in desperate need of a cheaper solution to the MRs which are rare as rocking horse ****. lol
 
I'm still here reading all these posts and am very impressed with the cooperation that's going on. My ears also pricked up when I heard mention of a UK supplier! That'd be sweeeeet.
 
Wouldnt it be easier to cast the handles in high impact resin? Then have the machinist do just the barrels?
Just a thought...


Thats what Ive been thinking actually, to make them just like the MR's and sopposedly, the real deal's.

If I were to do that, I'd prefer to get the handle piece CNC milled, and then make a 2 part mold from that. The only other issue, would be the method of attachment for the barrels. I would also prefer the triggers to be metal, as well as the grip's butt.

At this point, Im done trying to use the one I had sourced out. No responses or anything. So Im going to look for a new one.

Thanks guys

-tubachris
(Going solo may work, but you will never be as accomplished at a task, then as a team)
 
Well there may be a new source now. I recieved an email from I think a member here, but Im not to sure to be honest (please forgive me if Im wrong)

However, hes going to check out what the machinist he knows can do. I think that what obi sean suggested might be the better way to go. That way, we can can get just barrels and what not.

For the grips, we should try to scout out a very strong poly urethane resin to use to cast them in. I ordered some silicone mold making rubber, which Im using for another project, and will try to practice making a 2 part mold (something small) with the left over material.
 
I'm really starting to get excited about the progress being made here.

Making the barrels only out of aluminium and the grips resin sounds like a good way to go, and it shouldn't be too hard to cut the trigger section, and palm-plate section out of sheet aluminium either.
 
im getting pretty excited about this project as well...ive been dying for some nice blasters for awhile now. be nice to replace the rubies for less than the 800 dollar price tag i see the MRs for on ebay
 
**** QUOTE *****

Fella's

I have just recieved a quote from my manufacturer.

The engineers took a long hard look at the CAD drawings and decided that the best way forward would be to produce the Barrel and the Pistol Grip sepaeratley, the barrel from Ali and the Grip from Resin. The main reason for this was that for the barrel alone it would take 6 hours on a CNC machine.

HOWEVER, There is the option for a 100% Ali Westar if wanted.

Okay , figures: (Quoted in £GBP) This is for an order of 25 pairs

Full Jango Westar Pistol, in Aluminium - £75 ($150USD)
Full Jango Westar Pistol, Aluminium Barrel with Resin Grip - £65 ($130USD)

I have asked for a prototype to be made up and I think before officially declaring interest we should concentrate on getting the prototyp as good as possible.

Just to run that by you again .... $300USD for a pair of blasters .... ROFL! :lol:


**AS WE DELVELOP THE PROTOTYPE, PRICES ARE LIKLEY TO CHANGE, THESE ARE ONLY BASIC GUIDES**
 
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