Jumpsuit

Originally posted by tk412:

Soory i posted on the general topic area. But felt i post just in case you missed it on the jump suit area before we go down. Well I went to a local uniform store and found this. I will be dyeing the fabric to purple'ish. Can we dye Polyster? its 70 polyster 30 cotton. I bougth the large I'm 5'6 and weight 160. I will be trimming the waste part cuz it hangs on the croth part a bit. You cant tell by the pictures cuz i pinned it up a bit. The brand name is Red Kat uniforms. You could do a search on the web and find tons of companies the carried them. I also bought the shirt for the double shirt look on the arms. heres a link to one store for you

www.affordableworkwear.com/rkcp3040.htm

heres some pics

Tk412,
I have a RedCap Postman Blue coverall. It looks blue/grey to the naked eye but shows up purple when photgraphed.

Neil

Seeker (Arturo ,
Another trick I pulled with the coverall was I had the sleeves cut short and I have a long sleeve work shirt in the same color. I'm gonna sew the long into the into the short sleeves at the shoulder seam so that the short sleeve is on the outside and forms a pocket for putting a piece of velcor to secure the hoses form the gauntlets. I also removed all the pockets and sewed the hip pockets closed that give access to pants pockets underneath. I used a piece of the scrap pocket material to make a patch to go across the throat to secure with velcro. The remants of the shirt I'll use to make a hood for under the helmet.

I'll get pics up of all this eventually...I've been very busy lately. 14 hour days at work suck The money is awesome but I have no time to spend it

Neil

To my knowledge, RedCap doesn't sell direct. You'll need to either check with a local uniform store or do an online search for uniforms and coveralls.

One of the drawbacks is that if you want something unique like a solid black or white coverall, you might have a minimum order of 6, 10, 12, etc of coveralls. I wanted a black coverall for my Biker Scout costume and wound up getting a solid white coverall form Gempler's, the same place that sells the correct rubber boots on clerenace. I'm dying the coverall black.

Ritz Dyes work but you have to follow the directions to the letter...use VERY hot water and salt.

Here's a link to an online uniform store that sells the RedCap brand coverall in postman blue:

http://www.theuniformstore.com/store...JP48DLPKWNF8WD

A 100% cotton version of the coverall is also available in the same color...avoid it...it'll fade and shrink quickly...go with polly blends...ditto for the work shirt if you go the route I did.

Good luck,
Neil

So did anyone decide on the color?

Is it purple? Is it steel gray? Is it Navy Blue? What would you call it?

I'm just curious.

*actually has a bet riding on it*

Guri

My view is any of the above is correct. I think he has more than one, just like JetPacks. mine is that funky not quite purple color.


Bear

I would have to agree with JangoBear. I think the jumpsuit looks different colors throughout the movie. The display at Cel II looked like it was in the blue/purple family. When Jango is fighting in the rain, the suit looks dark blue but probably because he is wet. If anyone know for sure, I am sure we all would like to know.

Check this pic from Celebration 2:


Maybe make it a titch darker to compensate for the flash and there you go!

It seems like the consenses is that it varies... *L*

Some colors are like that, it's all a personal thing what you call it. My husband and I argue over the color that is between turquios and teal... I say blue/green and he says more like green/blue.

In this case I would say it is a steel gray with hints of purple, while the person on the other end of this wager says it's more like a muted dark purple...

But since my friends assessment is closer to the description among the experts, it looks like I lost!!! *L*

Interesting picture Max... are you standing in front of glass or something? And you know, I wonder if I got my picture taken with you at C2... if not I should have! Dang... *L*

Guri

Oh...heh, that's a shot of the actual costume, behind glass

maybe it's, navy purple? :p Is there evensuch a thing?

Faded Eggplant my friends. Bigkidbiggertoys has found the right fabric, but apparently it is hard to come by. I have yet to look b/c that will be one of the last things I do. I'm neck deep in gauntlets, armor, helmets, and leather to add the jumpsuit just yet. In all of the pictures that I have seen, when his visor is the correct true blue, the jumpsuit is the faded eggplant. Whenever the visor looks bright blue, the suit is now a faded lavendar (that's all due to the flash) The set lighting, flash, rain, etc all make it look different, but it is the same eggplant suit playing tricks on your eyes.

Yeah I think lighting plays a big role on jangos suit. Here's 2 pics of my suit with different lighting. One looks purple and the other looks blue

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Hey Toymank are you trying to get one for your self? My armor parts and leather parts come from different places. If your trying to get a price range on armor - it will be endless. 1,200 at least. If you look in ebay you could get an idea of what prices are out there for certian things. I could sell you my codpiece for 30 bucks. That could be a start. But really let me think about it and get back to you on pricess on all of the parts.


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I tend to think that the color is a more purple based light indigo.

Ok, I'll give my interpretation. It is blue with a hint of periwinkle. I definitely, lighting plays a big part. I think I found a perfect color of material at JoAnns and finished my jumpsuit last night. Will post pics later today. I was fully prepared to dye material but didn't have to. It has that slight purplish quality in certain light.

Indigo. I'd post a pict, but I don't have too many picts of it after I re-dyed it, to make it more of an indigo. The only ones that I do have are in lower light, and it looks super purple!

See what I mean?

I went with Postman Blue from Redcap where I got my coverall. It looks blue/grey but whne photgraphed, looks purplish...

Neil

Ugh, lighting sucks!! It's the ESB Fetters worst nightmare, and it seems you Jangoites have a touch of it too!

True "white light" can significantly change the color of the costume-- just look at Seekers' pic where the Jango T-visor area is a lightish blue. I think the best ref is to go by whatever photos are available from C2 and just compensate a bit for the Flash.

Nice J-suit/stitching,Mirax. Don't know about the buster browns though...:p

If any of you guys are familiar with medical scrubs, the color "ceil blue", I think, is very close.

Landau brand scrubs has a periwinkle color, that now after I've studied more pictures, looks very close to me.

Let me know if this sounds good to anyone....I bought 2 navy blue flight suits for 35 each from a surplus site...I am going to do up the sleeves like jangos then fade the navy blue out in some light mix bleach water...then when its a faded navy, add just a little RIT purple dye to the mix and make a faded navy/purple suit who knows what color i will look in the sun?!?!?!? Think this will work anyone??

Test it on a portion of the jumpsuit you wont be using all of to make sure it is ok. Be careful with the bleach, may make it spotty, may eat the material.

well as far as the bleach was concerned i was only planning to use a very diluted mix and then maybe do it twice for the desired effect...but i was planning in using a pant leg to try it on first thanks mirax

Ok so from what i understand the flightsuit was like a thick cotton right? Has anybody looked into using flannel wool or cotton. It seems to have that nice fuzzy texture and flannel wool is pretty thick material. Any ideas??

-Xavier

Flannel wool will be too warm and itchy. Go for cotton!

I know that the flannel wool would be irriating but i'm just wondering if it wouldn't look so much metter than flannel cotton.

-Xavier

I wouldn't use flannel at all. I am fairly sure the original was a polyester cotton blend anyway. I guess if you are doing an Artic Fett then the wool would be fine. I think in the long run, whatever you think looks the best and feels the best is going to be what you should do.

Halloween,Flamel would be ok except for the walking.
Just imagine going to Comic con in the middle of summer.Whoa!
You would be A wet bounty hunter,

Flannel is not really that durable either. I used a sportweight cotton, durable but not too thick.

Ok then heres another question then. If it is a poly-cotton then how thick do you think it is? I haven't seen many poly-cottons that are very thick.

-Xavier

poly-cotton = hot ***...
stick with cotton unless you like being uncomfortable

poly/cotton repels stains better...

What patterns are you guys using for the jumpsuit and vest and how are you modifying them? What materials are you using? What kind of stitching/thread do you use? Thanks

Later,
Tater

Check out my website for pics. I used Green Pepper pattern for men's black butte jumpsuit and a women's vest pattern. Thread is just multipurpose. Fabric for jumpsuit was 100%cotton and vest was ultraleather in a gunmetal grey. Used regular straight stitch. Obviously had to add the short sleeve for the jumpsuit. The vest, I made it zip in back (so had to alter my pattern) and added the cap sleeves (used the shoulder templates to get a size and shape for the shoulders. Also used cording to add the detail stitching around the vest. Used lots of pics from Who Jedi.

I used the Simplicity pattern for my current BF flightsuit. The pattern would work just as well for Jango. 100% cotton here as well. I might make another flightsuit depending on if I can add some vents to back of my current suit. If not, I'm using one of my Air Force flightsuits for my next pattern because, well I wear one everyday, and it fits great! Just have to add the Fett parts to it.

Simplicity pattern is #8745

If that is the mechanic jumpsuit used for "Grease", then yes, it is no longer available. I had contacted them about it and they had a few left that they said I could order directly through them. If my green pepper pattern didn't work, then I was going to do so.

Kahuna,
Glad I could be of help and glad you liked my site!

I have a gray jumpsuit and I was wondering what dyes should be used to make it the right bluish/purplish tint. Somebody on here mentioned they would give out the mixture that makes the jumpsuit exactly the right color. Help, folks.

My J/S was white first and I used Rit dye.4 packets of denim blue,2 packets of navy blue and 1 packet of purple.It looks EXCATLY like the pictures in "The Visual Dictionary" I thought it was a little light at first but the more I look at it the more I like it .

If you have some leftover material or there is an inconspicous spot that you could experiment on, you might want to try your own experimentation with colors.

I dyed mine a darker purple, then bleached it, then dyed it navy blue. then bleached it. i think the bleaching is very important because the real suit looks old and used, like a black or blue t-shirt when it has been washed too much.

I got the Air force blue J/S from Jc penny and bleached it out.It looks OK. Make sure you rinse good,at first it was spotty but then i bleached again and dried no spots.

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I dyed my jumpsuit with 70% RIT purple dye and 30% RIT royal blue dye. After it dried I redyed it with 1/4 package RIT navy blue. After it dries, it looks dead-on the right color.

What color was the base?

It was white jumpsuit. Sorry, should have mentioned that.

I picked up a flight suit from an army surplus store has anyone tried to dye one to jango's royal blue?

As long as it is cotton you should be able to use color remover & be able to dye it a new color.

I already tried color remover and i think it made it brighter! I am now in the process of bleaching it. thanks for the advice. Everyone is very helpful!

this is a quick update. I tried everything I could think of to remove the olive drab including 2 gallons of bleach and two different cycles of rit color remover. that color does not budge. it is still the same olive drab.

****... I was afraid of this.... I was going to try doing this with a pair of the same type work coveralls I used for my ROTJ styled Fett.
I may try just to dye some of my left over blue coverall scraps with purple rit dye and see if it just tints it a little to get the Jango look.

I have never seen a fabric repel bleach better in my life. I left that suit in the bleach for 3 hours. Kind of a bummer it fit real good!

mgr--What does the inside label of the olive drab flightsuit say the make up of the fabric is? Is Aramid one of the contents? If so, you're definitely up the creek as far as bleaching it goes. My flightsuit for work is 98% Aramid fiber--AKA--Nomex. It's a fire resistant material so we don't catch fire at work. If the suit is a good fit, I'd recommend taking it apart very carefully with a seam ripper. Boom! Instant pattern! Then just find some material that's a good shade for you, and make your new, comfortable suit.

I had a similar problem with an army jumpsuit. It was 100% cotton, but that color would not come out, no matter how much I tried. I soaked it overnight in bleach and nothing happened. And the label clearly says "100% Cotton." I ended up using a white cotton jumpsuit from here.

Where did this info come from - and is reliable?

I believe JC Penny's has a jumpsuit that comes in slate blue.

the label says 100% cotton on this flight suit also. thanx for the link to the coveralls Bexley

whojedi is kinda considered the forum expert on Jango's costume details.
Seeing how he did handle and assemble the actual costume.

I'm gonna have to side with whojedi on this one.
The color of the jumpsuit on all of the figures looks wrong to me.
And I would also have to admit that the Visual Dictionary even
looks a little off. There is not enough purple to it.

I've come to the conclusion that there is not a ready made jumpsuit
whose color will match close enough to the real deal.
At least not for my picky, detail oriented eye.
I'm even having trouble finding a fabric that looks close.

I just thought I would chime in & give my 2 cents for what it's worth. After studying all available reference material for months, I too believe the actual suit is a purple/eggplant color. It appears blue due to certain lighting conditions & processing. Now that is not to say that a slate blue suit cannot be considered as accurate as well, after all, that is how the color APPEARS to be on screen in most scenes. I think it is a matter of preference. I had one guy tell me he'd be damned if he was going to dress up like a purple dinosaur!

Whojedi, what did you use for your material base ? As in, was it soft cotton, dickie's type cotton, etc. Did you end up bastardizing a poor jumpsuit ?

I would have to say it was closest to a Dickies type cotton, not too thick though.

oooh, that's a thick one...holds color very well too. You have confirmed my method of attacking this problem...purchasing a short sleeved white dickies jumpsuit and sewing on sleeves underneath it.

cool ! Thanks Jay.

Dickies doesn't make a white coverall, do they?

If they do, that is for sure the route I'm gonna take.

They do make a grey one, but I would think that would
be more difficult to get the color correct.

If you know of someplace to buy a white coverall,
please post a link!

Thanks!

I'm color-blind, so the various hues escape me. Have we ever pinned down the right color - royal blue? Light purple? Something else?

I dyed mine royal blue 2 times then mixed 1/4 denimblue and 1/4 purple and dyed it again(rit dyes). It looks pretty good.
Max

I was informed by both moma-bear and g/f that the color I stated is wrong. It's actually called solid water. I dont know about any one else but this really seems to be working for me. Under soft light this suit appears blue, under harsh and flash it takes on that off purple color as well.

Bear

I was wondering if anyone on here has some patterns for constructing a Jango jumpsuit out of fabric? What have you guys used/modified to construct your jumpsuits?

The pattern I used is by Green Pepper- it can be found at JoAnn's. The name of the pattern is as mentione, "men's black butte jumpsuit". I have pictures up on my site of how it turned out. I did have to modify the sleeve a bit and made it one piece without the elastic waistband. But the overall cut of it and the neck line was perfect.

Try McCall's pattern #2336. It's a super hero costume, but the jumpsuit works great for Jango. All you have to do is add a collar, and an outer sleeve. It is a very easy pattern.

The Simplicity pattern I have was near perfect...but they discontinued it. You might be able to find it in a store that doesn't do much business. It was for a "Grease" jumpsuit. You'll probably have better luck looking for the Green Pepper pattern.

I followed advise from Fugazi and got a Postal Blue coverall from Red Kap Industries. Very inexpensive and an easy way to get a close match on the color. You can either request a catalog or go to www.allseasonsuniforms.com/rca01.htm.

Ashtep

Ashtep,

I could not find anything on that link that would take me to any Red Kap coveralls.

Where do I find it?

I think the link is http://www.allseasonsuniforms.com/rca01.htm

His link has a " . " at the end which shoots you to contractortools.com

I have a big ben coverall that is a dark navy, should I attempt to bleach it slightly and then dye it? Or should I just get some of that fabric Jango Bear mentioned and construct the suit?

G.F., Rit makes a color remover. You could try that and then try dying it.

Mike

I am trying the JCPenny version of blue coveralls by Big Mac. IF the color is wrong i can send em back no problem...The best color match I've seen so far is a brand of medical scrubs called Barco.. they have denim blue that is the "EXACT" color of the 12" Jango fett's Suit. Problem is that they are scrubs.. and would take a lot of modifications.

I just found me a pair of the grey Dickies coveralls last night.

I've searched the forum for tips on how to dye these things.
I've found plenty of mixtures of RIT dye for a white jumpsuit.
But nothing for a grey one!!!

There has to be someone on here that started with a grey and
successfully got to the right blue/purple Jango color!

If there is anyone out there that can help me,
please, please, please, share your profound wisdom with me!

My first suggestion would be to try and bleach it white, other than that, I would suggest trial and error. Buy some cheap shirts or material similar in color and fabric to your dickies and start dying. That is about the only way I got the color that I wanted, but mine was white.

I know that really doesn't help a whole lot, but you never know...

I started with black, bleached them gray and then dyed them purple... just using the rit purple dye. I like the results...

I don't have pictures yet, but I have my dad's digital camera and will be taking pictures of the costume this weekend. He should be able to download and get them back to me by next week...

Can you wait that long??? *L*

Guri

Dont forget about the denim blue rit.

Mike

Well I tried to get away with using color remover on a pair of BigBen Navy coveralls and that didn't work. I didn't use bleach though...Hmmm...

Maybe I'll try some bleach over the weekend, in the meanwhile Im going to try dying some lilac colored sheets with a mixtureof blues and see how that turns out.

Guri, I'd also like to see your results. Im using 1/3 denim blue mixed with some Light blue rit.

I started with a navy blue flightsuit and ran it through the washing machine about 5 times, adding about 3 cups of bleach each cycle. They ended up a great shade of purple that matches some of the Jango pictures perfectly. But as we all know, the range of Jango flight suit colors ranges from an eggplant purple to sky blue.

Adam

What I'll do is take a picture with the original material next to the material that only got bleached next to the jumpsuit that got dyed.

Maybe I could even scan this stuff in too... Hmmm...

Here's the scan:


On the left is a piece of the black sheet that I started with. The middle is the swatch of the black sheet I tested before I bleached the jumpsuit gray. The actual jumpsuit after I dyed it purple is on the right...

Guri

Again I ask... did you just add purple?
That looks to be a a pretty accurate color.
And you added no blue, correct?

You can contact Rit directly and if you can supply them with the exact color you want, they will give you a formula to mix to come up with the color.

We used to do it w/ 1/6th scale germans...

Back in the old days...

Hi! I know it's a silly question but should my jumpsuit be a little longer in the leg area so that it passes my ankle and attach to something or does it really matter? I don't want to walk around and get caught with my pant leg riding up the back. Any advise or tips would be helpful. Thanks!

My shin armor has elastic that wraps around my legs through slits in the flight suit. Same with the knee and thigh armor. If you do yours like this, then the weight should keep you pant legs down, problem.

As a backup you could add some velcro inside the bottom of your flightsuit and have it attach to your boots. Problem solved!!!

You could also add stirrups to the bottom of the pant legs. They will be hidden in the shoe & keep the pant legs from riding up.

Yeah, stirrups will solve that quick. You can get elastic at wal-mart or a crafts store at a couple bucks for a few feet. Just cut two small lengths and either sew or snap them on to the bottom sides of your cuffs. Or you could rig your shin armor as mentioned above.

Phil

The absolute best way to keep them perfect is to buy boot ties from an army surplus store. They are these green elastic things that clamp around the top of your boot. You clamp them on, pull your pant leg over it, then just fold it underneath and they stay the way you want them. Just look at some pictures of military uniforms and how they keep their pant legs around the top of the boot. I think this is what would work best

for me it was a simple moma-bear sewed little fishing weights into the cuffs


Daddy-

I've been searching and I see tons of threads on how to use the RIT dye to achieve the correct color but which JCPenney jumpsuit is everyone using? I can't seem to find it listed in any threads or on the jcpenney site. Anyone know?

I've just been using the Big-Mac blue one. It close enough for me and I'm happy with it. Go to this site:
http://www1.jcpenney.com/jcp/Products.asp?DeptID=469&CatID=3677&CatTyp=DEP&Item Typ=G&GrpTyp=SIZ&ItemID=04fd102&ProdSeq=5&OffSet=5 &ProdCount=9&Cat=coveralls&Dep=men's&PCat=workwear &PCatID=566&RefPage=ProductList&Sale=&NumMatches=9 &RecPtr=&SearchIn=0&ShowMenu=&TTYP=&ShopBy=0&Persi stenceID=&RecordID=&SearchString=

I got a Dickie's Jumpsuit from their outlet store for 19.99

I got the big mac and bleached it down to a purpleish color.

Eric

The purple fabric I bought three months ago finally faded enough! I bought four yards of purple cotton inter-lock fabric at the local Hancock's. It's called inter-lock b/c it comes in a big loop; it's what t-shirts are made of. I cut the fabric to get rid of the loop, and nailed it to my roof for about 2 1/2 months. It faded from a spectrum purple, to a nice violet/indigo. I'm still looking for one of those Green Pepper patterns, but none of the JoAnne's around here carry the jumpsuit. This is going to have to wait for both a pattern, and for me to finish my armor (to know where to put in the slits for the elastic). I'll update you all on my progress (whenever I make some) The fabric not only has the color I've been looking for, but it has a great feel and look to it that this picture just doesn't capture.

You know, now that I think about it, the color used in video and film compositing gives the illusion of being both a purple and a blue. I know they make fabric in "Chromakey Blue" but not sure if they are ever heavy duty. Plus, the price can be expensive. Its hard to see the true color in a bitmap image, but here are a few examples.

VideoBlue


ChromakeyBlue


Same with High Powered Studio Lights (obviously appears much brighter blue)




The look is much more blue in strong light and much more purple in less light.

I'm looking for a place to buy an inexpensive jumpsuit. Any suggestions?


MODS: Maybe if we get some good info rolling we can have a stuck thread for the jumpsuit issue...

If your looking for something inexpensive there is an alternative that a lot of people may not have tried. I use a 2 piece setup (shirt/pants) and it works great! The belts conceal the mid area and if you gotta go....potty, You don't have to strip almost everything you got on just to take a pee. I do have a jumpsuit and when I built my suit, I was so into it that I never thought about the bathroom thing until I had to use one. Not trying to change your mind, just an idea if you have no luck. My 2 piece looks no different than a jumpsuit and most of those items I found in my own closet.
Good luck

I have a jumpsuit for me and the two piece (sweat shirt and sweat pants) for my son. Both work well.

You might try all seasons uniforms coveralls. They look like they might work well.