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    Nov 9, 2006, 5:15 AM - Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #1

    I was going to sell this helmet, and then decided to convert it instead... Its a pretty nice helmet and I didn't wanna let it go. So far I've; filled the dent, removed the Borden thing from the cheek, and extended the lower section of the ear base by gluing a wood block at the bottom and filling it.

    More to come later...


    -Shawn

















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    Nov 9, 2006, 5:40 AM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #2

    Reserved for progress...
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    Nov 9, 2006, 7:28 AM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #3

    That is a very nice bucket you have there. Really nice shape to it, good thing you decided to keep it. Hey, just back to the magnet Idea, they will fit inside. The attached part where you sit the RF stalk is thick enough to drop down some magnets. Just letting you know.

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    Nov 9, 2006, 7:49 AM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #4

    Its probably not thick enough on this helmet... The ear is basically hollow... Its not like the SF where its thicker for that part. This helmet is the same thickness all the way around. The ear is the same thickness as the mandibles which are the same thickness as the dome.

    Just a quick example, when I went to straighten out the cut out for the stalk (this is not lined up to stand straight on most Mystery helmets), I actually ended up cutting a hole in the helmet which had to be filled afterward.

    Its still a real nice helmet, just makes it a pain for trying the magnets. I may use my post/oring idea, or just some kind of a nut and bolt system. Either that, or go with a fixed stalk.

    You know what? When this coat of primer is dry, I'll snap a quick pic so you can see what I mean. Check back in a few...


    -Shawn
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    Nov 9, 2006, 8:19 AM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #5

    See the grey spot in the ear? Thats where I painted over the Bondo so it doesn't stand out so much when you glance inside the helmet. I had to put a tab of duct tape in there and Bondo the hole up from the outside because of the way its cast. Its hollowed out, and the edge had to be cut through so the stalk could stand straight.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining... I like this helmet just the way it is... I'm just explaining why I don't think the magnet system will work with one of these. Unless I can find much thinner magnets than 1/8. 1/8 might work, but I'd be pushing my luck, and probably have to fill the ear with hot glue (or something) from the inside, which I don't want to do. See what I mean?


    -Shawn


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    Nov 9, 2006, 3:28 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #6

    Wow, Ive never seen that before on a helmet. You know what you could do, only if your desperate enough for the magnet system, you could fill that hollow section with resin or a filler of some kind to that after, its complety solid and even with the rest of the helmet. Then, it would be solid and thick enough to put the magnets through. Just even the bolt system you want to try out, I think it may cause you some issues if you say a hole came out by accident, how are you going to prevent another or even worse, a larger hole sprouting from just installing the bolt system?

    Im sure there are other things you can try doing to solve the issue, I have just never seen such a thin helmet before.

    -tubachris
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    Nov 9, 2006, 5:34 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #7

    The hole happened because I cut into the helmet... lol... It didn't just 'sprout'... The helmet is still thick enough, and solid. Its just like any other helmet with the exception of the ear. I don't think he was counting on folks trying to squeeze 2 magnets into the ear base. I think he was trying to make the helmet as light and balanced as possible.

    -Shawn
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    Nov 9, 2006, 8:17 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #8

    Quote Devilstar2k2 said: View Post
    The hole happened because I cut into the helmet... lol... It didn't just 'sprout'... The helmet is still thick enough, and solid. Its just like any other helmet with the exception of the ear. I don't think he was counting on folks trying to squeeze 2 magnets into the ear base. I think he was trying to make the helmet as light and balanced as possible.

    -Shawn

    Sorry, I just interpreted the unwanted hole as an accident. Well then you should go with the bolt/nut idea. should be pretty straight forward.

    -tubachris
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    Nov 9, 2006, 11:22 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #9

    Right now, I'm leaning toward a fixed stalk... I'd never be putting the rf down anyway. Plus, then I'd never have to worry about it falling.

    I just finished the rub n buff, and I have some pock marks on the cheeks... Its weird because I wet sanded everything before I even started. I guess I'll have to sand that down, and re-apply it before I post more pics.


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    Nov 10, 2006, 6:19 AM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #10

    Added a couple of pics to the top post... Rub n' buffed, and a did a little dark blue...

    Does anyone know if its okay to clear coat over rub n' buff? I'm not sure because its more of a wax than a paint.


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    Nov 10, 2006, 6:43 AM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #11

    Awesome job with the RnB ... looks really shiny!
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    Nov 10, 2006, 9:58 AM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #12

    Quote Devilstar2k2 said: View Post
    Added a couple of pics to the top post... Rub n' buffed, and a did a little dark blue...

    Does anyone know if its okay to clear coat over rub n' buff? I'm not sure because its more of a wax than a paint.


    -Shawn

    DO NOT USE CLEAR COAT ON THE RUB AND BUFF!


    Learn from my mistake, it will become dull and look like spray paint if you do. Good ob, im thinkin about redong the silver on mine myseylf.

    -tubachris
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    Nov 10, 2006, 4:03 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #13

    Thanks, Chris... Don't know what I'd do without ya.
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    Nov 11, 2006, 12:04 AM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #14

    Quote Devilstar2k2 said: View Post
    Thanks, Chris... Don't know what I'd do without ya.

    Its not the first time that anyone has said he same exact thing to me

    -tubachris
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    Nov 17, 2006, 1:14 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #15

    Made some progress finally... See top post... The 'star' on the dome is just the reflection of my ceiling fan. I had someone ask, so I thought that I'd make it clear up front.
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    Nov 17, 2006, 3:26 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #16

    Hey, looking very sharp! I'm glad to see your almost done with it. Need thos pinstripes, visor and RF and your set.

    -tubachris
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    Nov 21, 2006, 10:18 AM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #17

    On the home stretch... See top post... The ear cap/stalk are just taped in place for the pic. Gonna try the magnets afterall.


    -Shawn
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    Nov 21, 2006, 12:34 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #18

    Looks great! So what did you use to apply the Rub-n-buff, and how did you finally seal it?


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    Nov 21, 2006, 12:39 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #19

    I used the palm of my hand to apply it... And a scrunched up t-shirt to get in the creases. Theres no clear coat on the helmet at all. The black paint was put on with a 00 brush, then smudged with my finger. Used a t-shirt again to smudge it into the creases.


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    Nov 21, 2006, 12:47 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #20

    It looks very nice man, Its amazing how quickly you put this together. LoL, it took me 5 months! Outstanding work! Are you gonna use Goop to attach the earcaps? And you said your going to go with the magnets? Cant wait to see more.

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    Nov 21, 2006, 12:53 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #21

    Nope... No Goop... I bought Goop, but didn't buy clamps (like a dummy), and was in a hurry so I just used gel style Krazy glue for the ears. Alot of people are really against it, but I think its fine. Even the Goop package gives it 3 stars, verses Goops 4 stars. So its not like they're on there with Elmers white glue or anything (which is one star). Overall, I'm pretty satisfied with it. Its eventually gonna be sold anyway, once I can afford a Jango bucket thats 100% accurate.
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    Nov 21, 2006, 12:58 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #22

    Quote Devilstar2k2 said: View Post
    Nope... No Goop... I bought Goop, but didn't buy clamps (like a dummy), and was in a hurry so I just used gel style Krazy glue for the ears. Alot of people are really against it, but I think its fine. Even the Goop package gives it 3 stars, verses Goops 4 stars. So its not like they're on there with Elmers white glue or anything (which is one star). Overall, I'm pretty satisfied with it. Its eventually gonna be sold anyway, once I can afford a Jango bucket thats 100% accurate.

    I never used clamps with the Goop...

    -tubachris
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    Nov 21, 2006, 1:07 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #23

    Really? The package says that the set time is 24 hours... Oh well, if they ever fall off or anything, I'll try the Goop. But like I said, its 3 stars vs. 4, and thats coming from the Goop people. I can live with that.
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    Nov 21, 2006, 1:12 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #24

    Quote Devilstar2k2 said: View Post
    Really? The package says that the set time is 24 hours... Oh well, if they ever fall off or anything, I'll try the Goop. But like I said, its 3 stars vs. 4, and thats coming from the Goop people. I can live with that.
    Lemme give ya an example: The first time I Gooped the left side earcap, I accidentallly made it too far forward, and this is after it dried. I was so pissed, but this was just before I had to do a marching banc performance. I only had like 5 minutes really. I took a small pocket knife to it, pryed the earcap off, removing the paint as well. I scraped off excess Goop from both the earcap and the helmet, ran outside, repainted the area after sanding it down again, came back inside, repositioned it, and re-Gooped it. This was just in a 5 minute time span, and I still got to the performance on time. BOOH YAH!

    -tubachris
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    Nov 21, 2006, 1:29 PM - Re: Devil's Protocol Jango Mystery Helmet Conversion And Progress #25

    lol... But how do you keep it in place until it cures? Did you just sit there and hold it for 5 minutes or what? Goops not an instant bond according to the package.

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