DENT ALWAYS THERE!!!!!

Yep I've noiticed that too. I also noticed the other night when it was on TV that Jango is missing his RF & Stalk when he's climbing back up to the platform. Maybe that is commonly known but I never paid close enough attention before.

*gollum voice* SEE? SEE? HAHA! these are the only clear pics i could find. i wanna get that one with the dent b4 he even starts fighting obiwan mele style so i can rule that out out b4 you guys start saying thats what caused it
and i dont wanna here anymore of this jango hit his helmet on slave1's door ****. makes it sound like mado armor is made of tin foil.

Maybe it was there for all of AOTC, but unless it was manufactured that way, it wasn't ALWAYS there.

... GRRRR

ah it's just an ILM continuity error probably...

im not sure if its in the CGI shots. prolly not cause even the gauntlets are wrong. but on the real helmet it is always there.

i know this is off topic, but does anyone else notice when Jango is sliding done the side of the Kamino roof with Ben and Jango is slowing himself down with the wristblades. Well when they finally come to a holt its the opposite arm when he releases Ben, AAAswitcharoooo!
sorry, i always wonder if i was the only one that noticed it.
-goldenrod

i think he was almost fully stoped and had to take his arm with the blades off the roof so he could hit the release. hes only using his gaunt with the flame thrower for an extra grip as an extra

I am pretty sure in the shot when boba fett alerts jango to Obi wan that it isn't there.



Than I don't see him bump into anything to cause it but there it is like less than 15 seconds into the scene.





I dunno maybe we are seeing re-shoots with the dent. WHO KNOWS?

But glad to say watching that scene very carefully I had one of my other burning questions answered....do Jedis wear boxes or briefs? And you would think they would be WHITE....Obi-wans undies are turely darkside briefs

OOO nice underwear!!!!!!!!,lol

Back to another question I had asked a week or so ago. Any one know why his RF goes backwards/ behind his head when he fires the missile?

there is no rhyme or reason for these things. I just think they are wardobe errors. I mean this is Star Wars...not STAR TREK!

Hanes Jedi way?

I had noticed the RF not being there when he climbs back up.

I think it goes backwards when he fires the rocket because it has already sighted Obi-Wan and is getting out of the rockets way.

And BTW Gonzo, that underwear thing is just totally disturbing.



Xantok

Jedi undies.

did you get that off a new DVD or an older one?

Anyone selling a replica of obiwans undewear?

Originally Posted by shortimer52

did you get that off a new DVD or an older one?

well i see the same things in the VHS and i got it the dat AOTC came out. what would an old vs new dvd have to do with it?

Well you know GL, he likes to change stuff all the time. He might of snuck something in between the release date and now.

I just viewed the scene on DVD. I stopped it and digitally zoomed to his helmet whenever the left side was showing..
It appears to me that the dent is not present till he fires the rocket. It seems to disappear until after he head buts Obi Wan. After that it is most definitely there. Most curious....
Think it's safe to say that with or without the dent it's accurate.


Just my two cents..

Yep, Jango is Obi's uncle now

Obi's got a hard head.lol

Just like Zeever here.lol

No, I would have to say that in this pic there is no dent. With the location of the dent, it should show up and the light reflecting off his dome would make it more evident if there was a dent there it wouldnt hide it.



One thing to think about is that they prob put the dent in later due to some story relation and it shows up when he fires the rocket (or after) The FX guys would have made a helmet with the dent in it. Now not all scenes are filmed in order so there is a possiblity that some earlier shots in the fight were filmed after the dent was put into the helmet and they simply grabbed that helm and not bothering with the undented one

Originally Posted by Jun Garros Fett

I just viewed the scene on DVD. I stopped it and digitally zoomed to his helmet whenever the left side was showing..
It appears to me that the dent is not present till he fires the rocket. It seems to disappear until after he head buts Obi Wan. After that it is most definitely there. Most curious....
Think it's safe to say that with or without the dent it's accurate.


Just my two cents..

ya mabie obiway deflected one of jangos shots back at him in a verry small cut sceen and thats what causes the dent. what do you guys think? oh and the oh and the dent is present wile jango first takes off in his JP and fires at jango. i got a pic of that up there

That's it, this is getting ugly. I'm locking this thread! Er,...I forgot, I can't do that.

No more showin Obi's :moon ! This is supposed to be a thread about a dent.

did anyone consider the helemt got actually damaged during filming? for cryin out loud... only we nerds see this kinda thing... it';s a bloody error!!

he doesn't have it when he turns around an after that POW!

big deal... ;P

Boba's scenes are full of errors... from open gauntlets to flipped knee-guards and wrong helmets...

Originally Posted by R_boba_fett

did anyone consider the helemt got actually damaged during filming? for cryin out loud... only we nerds see this kinda thing... it';s a bloody error!!

he doesn't have it when he turns around an after that POW!

big deal... ;P

Boba's scenes are full of errors... from open gauntlets to flipped knee-guards and wrong helmets...

jesus, calm down buddy. im just trying to show people that the dent is there all along. no need to get agrivated
. i was just anoyed to hell & back by people saying it was caused by him ''bumping his head'' on slave1. oh and i donthink that that deeper indent was caused just by droping it. mabie the less deep dent that surrounds the deeper one. i think you would need to hit it with somthing like a baseball bat to cause the deeper one

Besides, it would have to be metal to dent, even by accident. Fiberglass wouldn't dent like that, so it had to be intentionally made that way.

The dent supposedly appears when he gets run over by the beast in the arena. Have a close look at the before and after shots in that scene. It seemed obvious at the time when I noticed it, but it could be the memory playing tricks (haven't seen AOTC for while).

um he clearly has the dent when hes shooting that jedi and thats b4 he even takes off form the platform where dukko is

ow... I didn;t mean to sound agitated...

sorry for that

just... everyone was rambling on about what could have happened story based... but it's probably just a shooting error.

Well when you think about it, in the easter egg they show Jango fall off the ledge while I assume he was practicing for the fight scene. This may be where he got the dent from.



Xantok

ok i just spent the last 20 min with a special VCR that i have that allows me to look at every single frame on the tape watching the scean when he swings around. it took me a few times and i replayed each frame & replayed each frame again & again noticing the same thing each time i followed this little blur on jangos helmet that in about 95% sure its the dent. i also tracked where it goes and it does go exactly where that little light is on jangos helmet. the fact that his helmet is chrome makes it like a comcave (bowl like) miror that makes it almost imposible to tell depth ot that its even there. I wish i had a DVD player that would do the same thing as my VCR but i dont know of one that gives you compleate controle like it. the reason i say 95% is cause its alittle blurry when you frezze a VHS frame. but i truely think im looking at the dent. its right where it should be. mabie someone on here could attempt to post pict of each frame of the shot that hes turning. that would help alot

the light source is coming from the upper right corner, behind Jango... so... shouldn;t there be light on "the edges" of the dent if it were there? it is highly reflective..

after looking at my dvd over and over (jedi undies)
I can bet my left guantlet that there is no dent on the ramp.

you would think that but i think your more fimiliar to a non reflective surface doing that. jangos helmet is almost like a mirror and that could cause the light reflecting in the dent to do weird thing like look like its not there. also the dent isnot like bobas that has sharper edges around it (i know bobas is more of a goudge so dont correct me) the edges are infact really round so you wouldnt nessaseraly see the edges when its reflecting cause they could be reflecting onto eachother at some points and make it look like the helmet it not damaged. anyway if you have AOTC on dvd and especialy if its full screen not wide screen then try what i did. freeze the movie right when boba points out obiwan and play the movie as slow as you possably can to try and make it even slower. freeze for atleast 5 min at the spot that when jango is turning about half way into the turn. should look like hes looking at boba sorta. and look at it cairfuly. and i mean really cairfully. if you find that little blur that i found then follow it and it should move along with the helmet and into the space where the light settles when jango has turned fully. it should be alot clearer for you DVD people.
and plz post pics if you even have the slightest idea that you might be sing it. it would help so much. TY
or better yet plz post the frame that i described. i might be able to point out what i saw.

ok better yet look at this http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showt...=dented+helmet the dent on this jango is just like the one in the movie. its a sorta dent within a dent. in the shot i could not see the larger less savear dent but the dent that i am sure i saw was the smaller one. it almost blends in perfectly along with the rest of the helmet in the frame i was looking at. be sure to look for any and i mean any color inconsistancys in the frame where the dent should be.

alright I will see when I get home on my comp there. Also I can clean up the image in photoshop.

til than you have been reprieved

can you post a photoshoped pic and another that hasent been tampered with. thanks

the one I posted in this thread is a photoshop pic. It is lighten/contrast, and shapened.

ALRIGHT....now I am convinced! It isn't there on the ramp. Look at the last picture. It is when Jango draws his pistols that you can see the dent. And that is a far off shot and it is evident it is there. To see it that far away you would be able to see it on the ramp shots. Ok...I think we are beating a dead horse here now. I am sick of this clip from AOTC. It is becoming like the Zapruder Film to me.

oh an no none of these shots were photoshoped. Just converted from .bmp to .jpegs so I could post 'em

umm is it just me or did your pictures all of a sudden become broken pics?

heh nice excuse. Can't admit it can you? j/k

no pics are working on my end. how does it look to eveyone else?

gah this is T3h Suxx0rz. why right when you post these new pics do they all become broken? gah i hate this kind of ****. i hope it works my school computer tommorow

Pics are working here. I think that is a reflection in the last pic Gonzo.
It's clearly there when he fires the rocket but I still do not see the dent again till after he head buts Obi Wan.

I wonder how many editors in Lucasfilm were laughing when they put this scene together. I can hear it now " This will be driving the Jango Fett costumers crazy for years"

Isn't that last shot CG? That would change things.

gah i think my computer has cancer or somthing. (not that cancer is somthing to joke about) but all three of my computers wont load the pics. Gonzo could you send the pics to my email plz. ill send you a PM with it. i dont know whats wrong with my PC but its really pissing me off.
PM sent

k im at school & the pics finnaly work. ya i dont really see the dent in those pics eather. allthough they have alitle more motion blurr than the VHS frame i was looking at but ya that is the dent in the last shot. but jangos helmet in the last shot looks like it was CGed for some reason. it just doesnt look real compaired to the others

I don't know if this has been completly resolved, but I was reading my Dressing a Galaxy book, and they said that there were 6 Jango Helmets. 3 Dented and 3 Undented. I hope that solved everything. I believe that things got mixed up on the set and in post produciton. It happens, and I don't think they expected us to be studying each shot and each frame. Before I post this, I am going to double-check in my book...

Yes, indeed I am correct. On page 133, it reads in paragraph 1 lines 1-2 "Six full sets of this costume were eventually produced, including both dented and undented helmets..." So there ya have it folks. I hope that explains everything.

"It happens, and I don't think they expected us to be studying each shot and each frame."

You're kidding me right? ^__^

kewl. so the dent was ther & it wasnt there. hehe atleast i got rid of that lame excuse that he bumped his head on slave1. still makes it sound like his helmets made of tin foil.

ya know ive been thinking. the dent shows up right after jango takes off in his jet pack. i wonder if they altered the sceen. cause obi was deflecting jangos blasts right? mabie initialy obi was spose to deflect one of jangos blaster rounds back at him, hits him in the helmet & then jango takes off to get outa there before obi can get to close to him. they mighta taken out the sceen to make jango seam alittle tougher. Make scence to you guys?

It makes sense that they would remove him getting shot in the head. A blast like that would break his neck!

Walla!