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Anyone need some Jango armor?

  1. #126
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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Jun Garros Fett said: View Post
    All i can say is Cheers to ya.
    I hope it is too.
    Thanks for ALL your help Bro..

  2. #127

    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    I have an update from Judz Dwedd tonight.

    He has an order he's Finishing up tonight that is supposed ot be going to Minnesota.
    He also has some of the parts made for two European orders and is hoping to have them finished and shipped before Christmas.

    I think these are the last three orders he has.

  3. #128
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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Hey Jun Garros - Have you heard from Anthrock - He was supposed to be the one to help Judz with the project...pretty bad helper...

    I'm glad you were able to help out - if you hadn't, I'm sure Judz would never had come through...

  4. #129

    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    I believe he would have.
    Judz Dwedd in the past has had a good selling record here.
    His last order and this set have been lackluster because of slow delivery but he has always delivered the product to the customer.

    Antrock wasn't supposed to help him in terms of making the parts with JD at his shop. Antrock helped JD out years ago and JD let him make his own molds from JD's originals. Antrock re appeared only to help once again to take up some of extra orders if people wanted more parts. He did not recieve any orders so he closed the list.

    That is what i was told by JD and i am sorry for apparently posting wrong about Antrock's involvement as a helper.

  5. #130
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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Maybe he can take all the bad pulls, put them together and do a charity raffle here.

    Stress cracks are fairly easy to fix for most people.

    It would spread some good will, and maybe help his reputation.

    Maybe put them in the Karma Thread Pool.

    Just thinking out loud. Only because if say FP had a stress cracked helmet, that broke his heart, I know I would have taken it to make him feel better

    Seriously though, Jun, you really helped him out. If you hadnt kept communication going, people may or may not have received the items, but with no damage control, things still would have spiraled out of control.

    Cheers from Kzoo MI,
    Mason

  6. #131
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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    I've known JD for a few years now and have been to his house many times. I find him to be a honest and upright person from what I know of him and feel that this has just been an unfortunate turn of events.

    In working with him with Gelcoat and fiberglass, I know it takes time and patience to get these parts done. and he has a LOT of experience and does quality work.

    So I guess all I can say is patience is the key and you'll get quality stuff. I bet he just got swamped with more orders that he thought he'd get.

    Flan

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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Below are pics taken of my just arrived JD armor. I find them to be very clean pulls of high quality, inside and out. Although the items took several months to arrive, I am very happy with my purchase. I would caution anyone who is looking for armor pieces quickly, to find a set for sale in the Cargo Hold. If you find that you have the time to wait, feel free to jump in on a "run" as it probably will take some time.






  8. #133

    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    137 days later, my order arrived.

    Mucho thanks to Jun Garros Fett, without whom this I am sure would have taken much longer.

    As far as the product, I am happy with everything except the chest armor, not such a clean pull, a few large chunks on an otherwise smooth plate. Hopefully these can be sanded down and smoothed out.

    Again, thank you Brian for the time you have actually spent dealing with this issue. I hope JD buys you a round or twenty for the work you put in helping him deal with this.

  9. #134

    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    so is there any way to get a set from JD?

  10. #135

    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Bleahhh said: View Post
    so is there any way to get a set from JD?
    Sorry.
    Presently he is finishing up the last order and does not plan on making any more for quite a while.

    If he does make any armor later on it will be in limited quantities and made before he offers it for sale. If he is still a TDH member after this that is.


    I am glad i could be of some help in this matter.
    I know what it's like to have to wait months for stuff like this and i hate it too.

    Thank you to everybody for having some patientce in this matter.
    That comes from me and JD.

    Brian.

  11. #136
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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    WOW!!
    I've been gone for a lil while and looky what people without patience are saying about one of the most honest and hard working friends I have had the fortune of knowing for over 15 years now. JD,in my opinion, is the greatest engineer of fiber glass costumes I have ever seen. His work rivals that of studio work. Actors is the biz have worn and seen his work first hand at cons and have all marveled at his craftsmanship. I am extremely grateful for everything that he has ever helped me create...In 15 years that has been a lot of fun stuff...If you only knew...lol
    I never stated I was helping JD with the runs he took on...I offered to take more orders of MY OWN to help out with the ones who missed his dead line. I have my own molds of exactly the same armor. I used to make Boba and variant helmets for people a while back. I opened my doors for a month and no one was serious...so I closed shop on that and I gotta say I am glad I did not take any offers with the way some people around here throw out comments and pre judge good folk.
    I saw the orders he got...and there were a few...I saw the work he did and know first hand how long it takes. Loren and I are perfectionists and we take pride in our work....so it takes longer than running quick ****...Pardon the language...We also have lives outside of fantasy land here. Loren is married...was between jobs...remodeled his house before winter and is expecting his first born soon...To do all that and fill runs for you is amazing in my eye's. I couldn't have done everything he has this summer...I give the guy credit for ALL that he has done for this forum and I don't blame him if he never sells another piece of his work.
    To All the good people who trusted Loren and had patience...I Thank You...All who gave him **** and froze up his Pay Pal account for no reason than lack of patience...Well...be happy cause you got the last run of what is "The Best" Jango armor in the WORLD...lol
    Can't wait to get started on the Cyber Man costume next...Star Wars is old news anyways...."The Doctor" is the future of Sci-Fi now...Fantastic!!
    Laterz,
    Antrock

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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Jun Garros Fett said: View Post
    Thank you to everybody for having some patientce in this matter.
    That comes from me and JD.

    Brian.

    ..no problem. glad u are here !

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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Antrock said: View Post
    WOW!!
    I've been gone for a lil while and looky what people without patience are saying about one of the most honest and hard working friends I have had the fortune of knowing for over 15 years now. JD,in my opinion, is the greatest engineer of fiber glass costumes I have ever seen. His work rivals that of studio work. Actors is the biz have worn and seen his work first hand at cons and have all marveled at his craftsmanship. I am extremely grateful for everything that he has ever helped me create...In 15 years that has been a lot of fun stuff...If you only knew...lol
    I never stated I was helping JD with the runs he took on...I offered to take more orders of MY OWN to help out with the ones who missed his dead line. I have my own molds of exactly the same armor. I used to make Boba and variant helmets for people a while back. I opened my doors for a month and no one was serious...so I closed shop on that and I gotta say I am glad I did not take any offers with the way some people around here throw out comments and pre judge good folk.
    I saw the orders he got...and there were a few...I saw the work he did and know first hand how long it takes. Loren and I are perfectionists and we take pride in our work....so it takes longer than running quick ****...Pardon the language...We also have lives outside of fantasy land here. Loren is married...was between jobs...remodeled his house before winter and is expecting his first born soon...To do all that and fill runs for you is amazing in my eye's. I couldn't have done everything he has this summer...I give the guy credit for ALL that he has done for this forum and I don't blame him if he never sells another piece of his work.
    To All the good people who trusted Loren and had patience...I Thank You...All who gave him **** and froze up his Pay Pal account for no reason than lack of patience...Well...be happy cause you got the last run of what is "The Best" Jango armor in the WORLD...lol
    Can't wait to get started on the Cyber Man costume next...Star Wars is old news anyways...."The Doctor" is the future of Sci-Fi now...Fantastic!!
    Laterz,
    Antrock
    Antrock,

    Sorry to say, but I believe that you and JD were in the wrong here. What happened to you "taking over" his little armour business? Even if taking over wasn’t your intention, why is it you haven’t heard about this “problem” before now? I believe that JD does have contact with you, and if you have an extra set of molds, perhaps those could have been used to speed up production.

    First I would like to bring up your little comment, “people without patience,” those impatient people have been waiting more or less four months for their armour and have had absolutely no contact with the maker. As of now, I don’t consider JD to be an honest seller and he is blacklisted in my mind from ever purchasing from, if I spend money, I want to know what’s going on with it. I also believe it was a great thing that his PayPal account was frozen, did he even dispute with PayPal? PayPal obviously thought he was in the wrong, and so does everyone else here on the board, buyer or not.

    I truly understand that we have lives outside of our costuming hobby, but I believe that checking one’s e-mail is something that a normal person does several times a day. If one doesn’t answer repeated e-mails dealing with this matter, that isn’t the problem of the buyer, it’s the seller’s problem. Also, if the one who started the run doesn’t have the time or resources to start a run, it should never have been started.

    If I were a buyer here and had to deal with the thought that I may not get my product or money back over the course of 3-5 months, and not having any contact with the seller, I wouldn’t feel comfortable wearing it.

    If JD would have been on the forums communicating with the members, he wouldn’t have any problems. People here are understanding, but if one starts to ignore them, there will be a problem with the membership and administration.

    Andy
    TK-1287

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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Yep, I completly agree, Andy!

    All people wanted was communication from Judz...and there was none from him.

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    Nevermind.

  16. #141
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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    I opened my doors for one month....No One wanted anything....I closed doors. What part of that don't you get?
    I NEVER stated I was working with him to complete orders he took...
    I relayed messages to Loren about impatience on the board...he forewarned people he got a lot of orders and it might take a while...Nuff said , you'd think...but...NOT. Then all this...I gotta laugh... All I can say is ONE word to the people of this forum..."RESEARCH"
    I stand by my friend...and the rest of you....do some research about the quality and reputation of the person you are doing business with. Show me one person who got ripped off by him...show me one person who was unhappy with his work...ask around...ask how many people he helped for nothing but being a friend.
    How many of you donated anything to this forum??? Any time...money...or just helped with anything on this forum??? Besides putting your two cents worth in to threads like this...
    The day Loren gets banned from the DH is a sad day in deed.
    Let it be people...
    And don't worry...
    I WON'T be doing any runs in the future either.
    Laterz,
    Antrock

  17. #142
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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Has everybody who has paid for armor got their parts yet?

  18. #143

    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    JD is finishing up the last two orders for a couple of European customers then that should be it.

  19. #144

    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    All of JDs orders have now been shipped.

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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Jun Garros Fett said: View Post
    All of JDs orders have now been shipped.
    ..ok, i am curious.....

  21. #146
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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Well, I've got my connection again, and have come here to face the music. I realize that I seriously let some members down by the delays. For that, I am extremely sorry. I won't even bother to explain the reasons, because after reading this thread, I see that people have already reached their own conclusions. For those involved, I'm willing to do whatever is reasonable to make it up to you. Let me know, and I'll do what I can. For the two foriegn members, I covered the airmail shipping costs. Hopefully that is sufficient compensation for your patience in this matter.

    Regarding quality issues, there seems to be only one.
    TK4426 said: View Post
    As far as the product, I am happy with everything except the chest armor, not such a clean pull, a few large chunks on an otherwise smooth plate. Hopefully these can be sanded down and smoothed out.
    I assume you're referring to the small bump on the side of the ab-plate, caused by a small chip in the mold. I don't know of any other "large chunks" you could be talking about. If you consider this to be an issue, I'll gladly send you a new ab-plate(free of charge) that I will personnaly sand baby smooth.

    Finally, regarding my thoughts on the comments in this thread. Maybe I deserved to be kicked for these unfortunate delays, or maybe not. I will not say. I'm biting my tongue, and keeping all comments to myself.

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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Almost forgot....A very special thanks to my friend Brian up in the U.P. without his help in communicating, I'm certian this thread would've continued to get more heated, as people waited for theit items.

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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    Even though I wasn't involved in this, I must say that after having followed this thread, and now reading what you've posted JD I have to say that I admire you for wanting to put an end to things, and to make what ever amends you can.

    To me, just the fact that you're here posting, and are not trying to deny that it took so long, redeems you in my eyes.

    Anyone who is willing to step up and face the firing squad ( without firing back I might add ), is most decidedly the better man because of it.

    In the end, I don't think that it really matters what any of the reasons were, just that you came here and said that you're sorry is a HUGE step in the right direction.

    My helmet is off to you JD. Hopefully we've all learned something here, and will all come out the better because of it.

  24. #149
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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    ditto

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    Re: Anyone need some Jango armor?

    judz dwedd said: View Post

    Regarding quality issues, there seems to be only one.

    I assume you're referring to the small bump on the side of the ab-plate, caused by a small chip in the mold. I don't know of any other "large chunks" you could be talking about. If you consider this to be an issue, I'll gladly send you a new ab-plate(free of charge) that I will personnaly sand baby smooth.

    Finally, regarding my thoughts on the comments in this thread. Maybe I deserved to be kicked for these unfortunate delays, or maybe not. I will not say. I'm biting my tongue, and keeping all comments to myself.
    Yes, that was the largest one, but mine had 2 other issues that were there. I do not require a new plate, I have repaired this one just fine as I stated I may be able to. Thank you for the offer though.

    Regarding your status here, I don't think it should be an issue personally. Yes, there was a very large delay but product was finally delivered.
    I do think it could have been handled better, like I have stated here before - a simple 'hey things are busy with real life, but I have not forgotten about you' message would have gone a LONG way. Just my .02


    -Jim

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