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    Jul 25, 2010, 12:30 AM - Another New Guy #1

    Hello all,
    I'm one of the newest TDH members (just joined tonight), and wanted to introduce myself. I completed a TK and Ep III clone and have been looking seriously at building a Jango Fett. I have been looking around for a while and already, I am amazed at some of the work that you all have done. I look forward to learning as much as possible from this forum.

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    Rich King
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  2. Jul 25, 2010, 7:18 AM - Re: Another New Guy #2

    Welcome to TDH Rich! You come to the right place for Jango Fett builds.

    Best of luck with your progress.
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    Aug 4, 2010, 10:32 PM - Re: Another New Guy #3

    Just got in a helmet today. Can't wait to get started. I know this is going to be a loooooooooooooooooooong process. I will be patient, though. I know it will be worth it in the end.

    Here's the first pics.


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    Aug 4, 2010, 11:31 PM - Re: Another New Guy #4

    That looks like an Asok, and what you now need to do is look up all of the Saintnasty WIP threads to see how to make that thing look awesome.

    I have an Asok that I am going to finish tomorrow and an Asok that is raw in the closet I am about to start on, its a great helmet and good to work on. I was nervous about working on this helmet when I started and now that I am about to start a second one I will not be as much of a wus.

    Good luck and enjoy
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    Aug 5, 2010, 2:23 AM - Re: Another New Guy #5

    the asok is a good helmet, i know, i've done up five of them so far. i feel that i have a good handle on how to do up one of those helmets. a couple starting tips, don't cut out the visor or the keyslots until you've got it ready to paint, get one of these for when it is time to cut those out, and don't forget, you can wetsand with a mouse just have a bucket of water (or a large bowl) and a sponge, wipe the sand pad off with the sponge about once a minute or more often as you go. and finally, don't be scared of that helmet, you can really get after it with your sandpaper. if you have any questions feel free to send me a pm, i can answer pretty much any question about this particular helmet.
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    Aug 5, 2010, 8:01 AM - Re: Another New Guy #6

    Thanks for the tips. I was wondering about leaving the visor area intact during all the sanding. Seems less likely to be damaged during that whole process. Do you recommend wetsanding from the start, or only close to the end? I'm sure I'll need plenty of advise along the way. Thanks all.
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    Aug 5, 2010, 10:30 AM - Re: Another New Guy #7

    yeh deffinately leave the visor area and all...didnt do that on mine and regreting it...about to install chicago screws and a brace to keep it sturdy
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    Aug 7, 2010, 1:04 PM - Re: Another New Guy #8

    OK, I'm sanding my helmet and I have some questions. I have been working with the mouse sander on the dome for a while with 220 paper trying to get rid of the seam. Will it ever "really" go away? Also, is there a trick to knowing when to move on to the next grade of sandpaper? Will the surface really shine with sanding alone, or does that take polish? I know I'm asking a lot of questions for such a simple task, but I guess I have the same concern as others here, in not wanting to sand too much off the helmet. Any advice?
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    Aug 7, 2010, 4:43 PM - Re: Another New Guy #9

    yes, the seam does eventually go away, if you're having a tough time with it, then you're probably not pushing hard enough, and if that's the case, then you probably haven't gotten through all the surface imperfections on the rest of the helmet yet. you can get a little rough with it.
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    Aug 8, 2010, 9:53 AM - Re: Another New Guy #10

    Another question on the Keyslot panel: Do I just cut out the rectangle in the back of the helmet and glue the panel to the inside of the helmet or do I have to trim the keyslot panel to fit inside the rectangle in the helmet?
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    Aug 8, 2010, 3:55 PM - Re: Another New Guy #11

    after cutting out the panel on the back of the helmet, i make up a kind of template with paper that's the size of the hole. i then trace it on to the keyslots so everything is centered then cut it out so that it fits in the hole in the back of the helmet. hold it all in place with some CA glue (cyanoacrylic glue, aka, superglue), or some two part epoxy.
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    Aug 8, 2010, 9:56 PM - Re: Another New Guy #12

    So, it should sit flush with the outside of the helmet?
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    Aug 8, 2010, 10:07 PM - Re: Another New Guy #13

    Progress pics: Well, after spend at least 3 days sanding with 220 on the mouse sander, then 220 by hand, then 400, then 800, then 1000, and then 0000 steel wool, and finally some metal polish. Wow, my arm is sore now. What do you all think? Is it ready for paint or does it need more work? Don't be shy, tell me what you really think.




    Thanks...
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    Aug 9, 2010, 1:56 AM - Re: Another New Guy #14

    that looks really really nice! unfortunately when you tape off the dome, cheeks, and back you'll need to sand it again with the 1000 to get rid of the tape residue. i usually tape it up when i get done with the 800, then paint, i haven't tried putting paint on anything higher grit than that so i don't know if it'll stick well or not. i guess if it doesn't you can go over where the paint is going to go with the 800 and go again.

    but once again, it looks super nice. big thumbs up from this guy.

    *edit* i missed the post before the one with the pics.

    as you can see in this shot, the keyslots are recessed just a little bit
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    Aug 9, 2010, 4:00 PM - Re: Another New Guy #15

    That looks good and shiney. I never can wait to get paint on so I started spraying before having it that well done.


    What I really think is you shouldn't leave your dish detergent on the counter. It should be under the sink.
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    Aug 9, 2010, 6:39 PM - Re: Another New Guy #16

    Quote Mullreel said: View Post
    What I really think is you shouldn't leave your dish detergent on the counter. It should be under the sink.
    HAHAHAHA. Nice! You're just mad that it's blocking the view of the Keurig coffee selection!
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    Aug 31, 2010, 11:51 PM - Re: Another New Guy #17

    Arrrgghhh!! Stupid Kryon Ocean Blue! I ordered 3 of the 3 ounce cans of Ocean Blue and finally got it in. I taped off the helmet and sanded the areas that need to be ocean blue and then primered with Rustoleum "Painter's Touch" primer, then lightly sanded again with 800 grit. That was on Saturday. Tuesday I got in the paint and wiped down the helmet good and started to spray, that's when the pain started. It started bubbling as soon as I sprayed it on. I waited for it to dry and sanded it down smooth (not till the paint was gone, just smooth) and painted again, paint went on like sandpaper or truck bed liner. Is it the paint??? So, I sanded it smooth again with 800 and then steel wool to get it smooth. It looks nice and smooth and the blue is a nice even color, it's just not shiny. It should be shiny, should it not? Any advice? I still have to paint the other sections with the Rustoleum Royal Blue. I'm sure it will turn out nice and smooth and shiny (insert sarcasm here).
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    Sep 1, 2010, 9:27 AM - Re: Another New Guy #18

    OK so Screw that krylon **** it WILL not adhear to rustoleum primer due to the different chemicals in the paints, theres a few threads about what works for people which didnt work for me. I went with a Rustoleum blue painters touch that resembles the ocean blue, I forget the name but goto homedepot and look its there looks really good.
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    Sep 1, 2010, 9:48 AM - Re: Another New Guy #19

    i'm not sure what you guys are having problems with the rustoleum primer, are you using the stuff called "automobile primer" i haven't had a single problem with that interacting with the ocean blue. the same thing goes with the rustoleum filler primer i use. but if you're still having trouble with the krylon, i'd suggest rustoleum Sail Blue as a close but not perfect alternative.

    this is the stuff right here: http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=37

    they sell it at walmart in a 16oz can that says 33% more free at the top near the cap
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    Sep 1, 2010, 10:08 AM - Re: Another New Guy #20

    Same stuff I used when I had the same issue if u remember me commenting asking about it...when u spray it onto the rustoleum it bubbles up like its boiling! Cruzer reccomended spraying a dust coat followed by another fine coat a day later but that didnt help either.
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    Sep 1, 2010, 10:19 AM - Re: Another New Guy #21

    I used the Ocean Blue for the first time in March and the temp wasn't very high. No real problems and I used the Cruzer dust layer method. Since then I have tried use the OB several times in high heat (mid 90s to 100s) and I have had the exact same problem that TK3944 describes. I don't know that it is the heat but that is what I have been attributing it to.

    I gave up and just got a good layer of Ocean Blue then used 1000 grit to smooth it out. It took out some of the sheen but I think it still looks pretty decent.
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    Sep 2, 2010, 8:31 PM - Re: Another New Guy #22

    Quote Mullreel said: View Post
    I used the Ocean Blue for the first time in March and the temp wasn't very high. No real problems and I used the Cruzer dust layer method. Since then I have tried use the OB several times in high heat (mid 90s to 100s) and I have had the exact same problem that TK3944 describes. I don't know that it is the heat but that is what I have been attributing it to.

    I gave up and just got a good layer of Ocean Blue then used 1000 grit to smooth it out. It took out some of the sheen but I think it still looks pretty decent.
    That's exactly what I gave up and did. After the second attempt to use the the Ocean Blue with similar results (maybe it is the temperature in the garage). I then sanded it smooth with 800, then 1000 grit, so it's nice and smooth. It still has a nice even coating of blue all around. I might go ahead and use some gloss coat to bring some of the shine back to match the Rustoleum Royal Blue, which as I suspected, went on smooth as a baby's back side. I'll post some pics with I get that done.

    Thanks all for the advice.

    @saint_nasty, (insert sheepish emoticon) no, it wasn't automotive primer. I was too cheap and in too big of a hurry to go out and get yet another can of primer when I had a perfectly good can of primer here at home. Yeah, that saved a lot of time, huh? Ended up painting and sanding and repainting twice and it's still not right. I need to pay more attention to y'all's advice.
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    Sep 5, 2010, 12:17 AM - Re: Another New Guy #23

    O.K. Got the ocean blue shined up, by applying gloss coat with a cotton ball. I didn't want to risk more bubbles by spraying it on, and didn't want brush strokes from using a brush, so i tried the cotton ball. Seems to have worked pretty good. Now, both blues are equally shiny. I still have to put in the visor and put on the right ear. Then shine it up again with polish, put on the stripes and then... weather it Seems a shame to dirty such a great looking helmet. Here's a few progress pics.



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    Sep 5, 2010, 1:14 AM - Re: Another New Guy #24

    @tk3944 that automobile primer and the filler primer they sell in the auto dept of walmart is the only stuff I use any more. I've read and experienced too many heartaches to use anything else at this point.
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    Sep 5, 2010, 6:55 AM - Re: Another New Guy #25

    looking good..............I just dirtied up my latest one yesterday. I am always nervous when I put the first dabs on but by the end it looks so much better I am having to control the urge to make it even dirtier. I am planning on posting some pics later but I don't want to post a pic of my work in your thread.

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