Right Gauntlet Switches - Identified ? (Updated)

Hey !

I've been thinking about this for sometime, and I just can't pin it down. It's one of the last things holding up the completion of my suit's overhaul.

I know there was someone, at some point, that either started a thread, or participated in a thread that discussed the switches used on Boba's right gauntlet. But the name(s) have eluded me, and I can't find the thread for some reason.

Has there been any progress on finding or identifying these switches ? If memory serves, they were NOT toggle switches, but Rotary Switches of some sort, correct ?

If the used part hasn't been discovered yet, or if it hasn't been agreed upon yet, let's discuss/debate it now. I want these little suckers..... and I want 'em NOW !!

If it's already old news, forgive me, and enlightenment me

Thanks Everyone in advance,

FP

Any close-ups of the items in question, fettpride? If they were here, we wouldn't have to keep jumping back and forth to a link, etc.. I love games like this.

Hey Chris,
I thought someone around here said they were a rotary switch of some kind. It has been a while and my memory is fading from the lack of baby sleep...... :p
Lynn

Interesting. I just went through every picture on the Ref CD and couldn't find one clear picture of those switches. They were missing on the gauntlets at both MoM and AoSW.

http://www.essat.cl/cdref/0101_0200/Boba_Fett_173.jpg

I found a blurry blown up pic from the Pre-Pro stand-up, but not clear enough to be conclusive. Who's got one of these stand-ups that can take a nice, tight close-up picture for us?

As far as the rotary switch discussion, I believe that was Seeker and sith_camaro who mentioned they used them on their Jango gauntlets.

Heyguys


I found the thread ... FINALLY


However, I think we should re-open this topic .....uhm, Boba Phett PM on it's way

GOTCHA !

Thank guys ....

FP


http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=2082&forum=4

Wow, those are tee-ninetsy! Hard to see. Maybe our UK brethren see something familiar in them? Maybe from an old lamp or something?

Small Body Subminiature Precision Rotary Switches


This tells me that being subminiature, that they're probably the same 1/8 size that the Radio Shack sub-mini toggles are, only rotary. What do you guys think ?





http://user844019.wx6.registeredsite...cts/A1150.html


**EDIT**





Looking at the diagram, you can see that flat portion of the finger switch where a knob would fit onto and lock down.

I think this is prety close. But Sub-Mini might be too small compared to the switches that Boba Phett was showing us. HIs looked a little longer.

Thoughts ??

Ok. I'll take the word of someone who saw the ACTUAL/ORIGINAL piece, that there is the flat part. If so, and these are the twist switches mentioned previously(before these fp diagrams), would they have been an item found only in the UK? Were these props built in the UK? Forgive my ignorance, but I always thought this was the case. If so, and I'm lovin' the footwork so far fettpride, would dimensions be same-same for these generic switches here across the pond in the US? This may be a great re-discovery if many didn't know this.

MegalomaniacalMandalore wrote:
Ok. I'll take the word of someone who saw the ACTUAL/ORIGINAL piece, that there is the flat part. If so, and these are the twist switches mentioned previously(before these fp diagrams), would they have been an item found only in the UK? Were these props built in the UK? Forgive my ignorance, but I always thought this was the case. If so, and I'm lovin' the footwork so far fettpride, would dimensions be same-same for these generic switches here across the pond in the US? This may be a great re-discovery if many didn't know this.

You're correct in the fact that most of the film props were likely assembled at Levingston Studio's in the UK (Spelling Right ?). But I have read just recently actually, that the Fett components were actually assemled and painted here in the U.S. (Joe Johnston). Cannot remember the source, so I wouldn't call this gospil, but I do believe that is what has been decided. Someone invloved in that conversation please interject if I misundersttod.

Now that is not to say that the switches were not of U.K. origin. I wouldn't doubt for one minute that they're from the U.K., everything else seems to be ******

I think though, that this could e a very likely alternative to a found item that may or may not be available anymore, or attainable for that matter.

I personally think that the size of these switches may actually be accurate in size. At least the portion that sticks out of the gauntlet. No one could possibly know what the back's of them look like for sure. It even has the gasket that has been mentioned.

I plan on giving them a call in the morn, and see what I can get a couple of these things for. I will be the guinea pig

I'll put them in my new right gaunt, and see what she looks like.

-FP

Now we're getting somewhere! You ROCK!

Sounds good to me FP! Looking forward to hearing how they work out!

You mean these?

It would stand to reason that the switches are very likely parts from the UK as many of Fett's found parts are UK based. The dental expander and shin tools immediately come to mind.

Hey - Thanks fettcicle !! Those would be the ones!

My only concern about the size of that switch is the size of the hole that would have to be made in the gauntlets. On the MoM and AoSW the holes in the gauntlets look very small - as in even smaller than 1/8". This is what's been confusing me. The only thing that I can think of is that perhaps, those were gauntlets that weren't acutally screen used and had not had switches actually installed in them yet. Perhaps, they were just drilled reference points where they were to be later installed. Any thoughts on this?? Anybody else that's interested can see what I'm talking about by clicking on Bobafettish's link.

Brak's - as I stated above, I wouldn't at all doubt that the parts are from the UK. Happen to know anybody close over there that could seek them out for us? (I know you do)

Of course I do!

If I am not mistaken, the gauntlets have been indentified as being "screen used."

BobaFettish wrote:
...I found a blurry blown up pic from the Pre-Pro stand-up, but not clear enough to be conclusive. Who's got one of these stand-ups that can take a nice, tight close-up picture for us?...

I've got that stand up and those switches are already blurry as printed...wish I coulda helped

tylerdurden wrote:
If I am not mistaken, the gauntlets have been indentified as being "screen used."

That's exactly what I wanted to hear. So then would Fettcicle's switches appear to have fit in those little holes? This is really bugging me

For those that have any doubts that the switches were actually screen used for ROTJ, here's a pic. Blury, but they're there.


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Brak's - Well, get to work man

For those that didn't see the photos the first time around.

Pics of where these switches show up on the pre-pro and ESB suit, all courtesy of the Ref CD and the chronicles. ROTJ's are in the movie but not on the suits anymore.


Sample switches I have laying along with fettcicles pre-pro gauntlets


I can honestly say the switches that I have fit real nicely on the new gauntlets I just got (sorry no pics of this available) -Mark

FP. From the schematic you provided of the A-1150, it appears as though a hole approximately 1/8 inch would work for inserting the threaded receiver for the locking nut. The schemo says it's .15 ....I hope this is inches or else disregard this post.

MegalomaniacalMandalore wrote:
FP. From the schematic you provided of the A-1150, it appears as though a hole approximately 1/8 inch would work for inserting the threaded receiver for the locking nut. The schemo says it's .15 ....I hope this is inches or else disregard this post.

Sounds right to me Now if I could only get ahold of Cole. I'll try again today.

Boba Phett wrote:
I can honestly say the switches that I have fit real nicely on the new gauntlets I just got (sorry no pics of this available) -Mark

Coooooool. Could you share a pic in the near future ?
I would be VERY interested in seeing the scale.


-FP


** EDIT ** (UPDATE)

Finally got ahold of them. Sheesh, do I know how to pick 'em or what They're of course a specialty manufacturer, parts only made to order.

When I told them what they were needed for, of course the teasing started Nice guys though. Here's the scoup ...

They're going to send me 2 samples. After the discussion as to what they would be used for, they asked if they would even need to be fucnctional, because the prices for these little bad boys are apparently obscene, as they only make them for big companies such as Hughe's Aircraft ect.. I told them that it was not necessary for them to be functional for electronics use, since they have micro solder terminals anyway. He said, in that case, I could be in luck, because they have a huge surplus of non-functional switches or switches that cannot be sold because they did not meet QA standards, and they could problably make me a deal for a boat load of them for fractions of pennies on the dollar.

So that is the catch. They may not be worthy of actual electric current, but would still click like a rotary switch, sound like a rotary switch, but for all intents and purposes be a "Dummy Switch". The best part, is that they might basically be "FREE"

So, I'llget the samples and see how they look on my new set of gaunt s. If they look right, and the price is right ....how can we go wrong? Well, there will be those here on the forum that may in fact want them functional. Personally I don't give a rip, but I need an idea of how many might be interested in them? Spread the word, give me an idea. IF THEY LOOK RIGHT. Stay tuned.

-FP

Then may I be so bold as to sit in the number one spot on that list of people who want a set?

Good work FP . . . you never cease to amaze me!

Jer

Number 2 spot, right here. Non-functioning, no worries. I had no intentions of adding any electronics to the right gauntlet anyway.

OO-oo! Me too! Me too! If these are "the ones", I may need for a couple-three sets for future upgrades.

#4 spot please


~Bobby

I could go for at least a few sets of them

Count me in for at least one set of "dummy" switches. Good work FP. You really know how to get things done.

I'd be interested in a set or two.

I'd be interested in some switches as well

I will need two sets.
pm sent

I noticed that this topic was listed as merged with "Gauntlet switches available", but I can't find that. Are we who posted here still on the "list" if there is one? I'm curious if there is any progress on this subject, and if the test units have been received and examined yet. Thanks .

Count me along for this ride!!

MegalomaniacalMandalore wrote:
I noticed that this topic was listed as merged with "Gauntlet switches available", but I can't find that.

There was no merge that I'm aware of. This is the original, unaltered topic. I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Hmmm....Strange. I saw it listed at the top of the forums with a few other "merges". Oh, well, no harm done.

Any progrees on these?

Actually, it's been pretty slow going with these boys. It always is when you're trying to get something for free I suppose They do irritate me nevertheless, because the're too big for their britches. I never asked for anything for free. They just assumed I couldn't afford their product because of the intended application, so they offered to practically give away thir throwbacks. I wasn't going to argue. But in turn, I suppose you place yourself at their mercy.

I understand the need for some closure to this either way as well though, don't get me wrong, since I've been at that stage with my gauntlets for a while

I will be leaving today for Portland for the rest of the week on biz, so I will check on it first thing when I return.

Sorry it took so long,

Chris

Very cool news indeed.I missed this entirely,but would definitely be in for 2 sets of these

Steve

Same here DL44. I would be in for a set or two.

I would still be in for a single set to go with a certain artists gauntlets.

If this deals comes to fruition, you may count in my interest for 2 or 3 sets as well!

Perhaps if I had a brick-'n'-mortar address, I could go camp out in front of their door for a couple days. After the BO sets in, and their employees are too afraid to come in to work, they might beg us to take their entire stock. ...."And the bitter lil' dwarf on the sidewalk, too, please."

We'd definately be in if the price is right .
(probably 2 sets if jango has them.)
thanks for doing all the research on this.

Any progress on these?

Hey! Maybe Fettpride or Fetticle can check this out?

Does this look like a good lead for the ESB gauntlet rotary switches?

http://www.rselectronics.com/Catalog...HF=446&HT=3324

Maybe these would work?

Shinobi

Bump! No comments? Well, they look good enough for me, so I'll buy a few and let you guys know. Though I may have to order a minimum of 25... That's quite a few Boba Bucks! we'll see how that works out...

Shinobi

Im in for a set as well if you need a minimum.

I will order these soon, since It's been proven that they were rotary switches in the original screen used. Look in the Jango thread at the fashion show pics. There you will clearly see there are rotary switches on Jango's gauntlets, too. The only question is the scale, as the Jango ones seem a tad larger, but since there is not much clear ref on the original ESB, it's hard to say.

Shinobi

I might be in for a set of these as well....


Steve

So here's where I'm at... It doesn't look like these guys have a minimum per se. However you do have to order at least $25 to use a credit card, and at least $50 when opening a new account. (As in first time order) I might put together a run If there is some interest. They are $7.13 each, and you need two. So would anyone be willing to go for a set at $20 shipped? ($15 for two switches +5 to ship anywhere) The description says the switch base is .25" diameter. That should be the right size, yes?

Shinobi

I'm interested

Let me check back with the size before you order them...I'd be in for the $20.

Steve

Definately! You can follow the link in my previous post to check it out, DL. Thanks!

Shinobi

Well I went over every available image that is on the Ref. CD and the TDH archive...not being a ROTJ buff I didn't know that most of the gauntlets don't have switches which would have been the only closeup shots. However the pre-pro gauntlets are of some high resolution and some production B&W shots from ESB exist that show the rotary design switches quite obviously versus the micro toggle switch from Radio Shack that has been used for so many years.

From the available reference and from scaling the RS micro toggle switches that I have against what I see in the film shots although grainy I would say 1/4" is a good choice....

I'll definitely be in for a set.

Steve

I'm unsure about these ones because the bottom piece is quite large, couldn't really fit in a gauntlet.

Here is the ones that were determined "correct" a while back, thanks for letting me link to your image without asking Fettcicle!

OK folks, here's what I was able to dig up: This weekend, I had the opportunity to dig through my parents basement. The house used to be my grandparent's house, so a lot of old junk was lying around that he used to use to fix things. Lo and behold, a handfull of rotary switches in various sizes. Here are two sets in two sizes.

The smaller one I think I will use (so I won't do a bulk order... apologies to those that were hoping on that) however, I'm wondering on the switch "rod" height (or length) the smaller ones appear a tad small, and the larger ones look just a touch too long. This is easily fixed with a rotary tool of course. Anyone have any input on the right length? I think eaither will be passable, since the base diameter is small enough... thoughts?

If people are still looking for the rotary switches, I found some that look like the ones in the lower left corner of Shinobi Fett's switch pic.

It has a 1/4" mounting hole with a 1/8" d-shaft. The shaft is way longer than the Grayhill switch, but it can easily be cut down.

The switches were $5 each plus shipping. My total was $16.75. I paid them on Friday and had the switches on Monday.

I got these switches from Leeds Electronics their e-mail address is: sales@leedsradio.com

They specialize in vintage electronics. No they do not have the Grayhill rotary switch shown in this thread.

Once the switch is mounted you can't see the body of the switch, so essentially you get the same look as the Grayhill switch and they look great.

I can post a pic tonight of the switches installed on my in-progress Ruffkintoy gauntlets if anyone would like to see.

yes i would love to see.. i have the same gauntlets ready to build :-) do you have them working the led or anything planned?