Right Gauntlet Greeblie...Found?

So I happen to be staying in Las Vegas and visiting the elusive Art Andrews (which do not be swayed...the man is a heinous jerk... ) and the discussion of one of the Right Gauntlet parts came to fruition. After talking Fett for most the morning and transfer of the Ref CD photos, I noticed something about the Top Hose attachment.



As you can see it, I've circled to portion that I have been racking my brain on the fact that this part is indeed a found part.

As you can see here, It was removable and had 2 prongs to it that it attached with.



After speaking with Art, he assured me that (with evidence he was unable to actually devulge due to agreements with the original owner) that it was indeed a 2 pronged device.

This also got me to thinking, the shape of the greeblie and it having 2 prongs. I think it could be a heating/power element for a piece a cookware. Then after more discussion, I believe that it will be from the later 60's, early 70's era and most likely a 220v part (from the fact it being assembled and completed in the UK).

So now, does anyone have any idea as to maybe where we could start looking? I'm totally convinced this is a found part now. It really reminds me of the power element for waffle irons or electric skillets/griddles.


Any other takers? Thoughts? Comments? Critiques?

It's the first time I see that, but IMO (I live in Europe) there's too space between them so it doesn't look like a 220V female. Maybe it's just a way to connect the 2 on/off switches with the jet pack for the thrusters. I say that because the ESB costume has a cable, going from there to the vest, inside the tube.

Just my opinion

As soon as you started mentioning a power cable, I too thought about cookware.... electric skillets and the likes. The large pronged probes just lends itself to such products. It would be a plausible reason on why there is a visible black wire going up the inside of the gauntlet tube. I wonder how they fastened it from the inside to handle the constant movement of wearing the costume though unless they incorporated the female side into the gauntlet itself

That is pretty interesting, but nothing comes to mind, back in the seventies I was more into toys than cookware

DL...its just like you said. I do believe it has the connectors in the gauntlet, most likely cast into the gauntlet. Probably using some kind of silicone or sealer to hold them in place. It is clearly evident. With all the information Art has and knowing that he has a very exuberant and extensive collection of unseen material and photos that he is unable to share to the public I whole heartedly believe him that he says it has 2 prongs. I'll talk him into possibly making some sort of sketch or adobe illustrator shopping of how the piece looks. I really think we are on the verge of another Fett discovery.

Do you know the lenght between both holes?

Do you think they could be two of the long guitar like plugs that they cast into the top piece? There could be two jacks cast into the gauntlet. I am not saying that it isn't a found part, but the two plugs just reminded me of stereo plugs.

Can you show us a pic where we can see the real greeblie to compare?

Originally Posted by KaanE

Can you show us a pic where we can see the real greeblie to compare?

Check the image again.

What the frak! Nice add SEEKER! Why I have never looked at the PP1 gaunt?

Do you know what are they usually used for?

It's just a basic Stereo Jack socket. It's used for variaty of things.

I found someone online saying that Maplin in UK has it. And it's Part# FK039 but I can't find it

This is the one you posted from Maplin:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1196

Here is another model:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1157

And then this compact:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1189

it looks like any of the first two will do.

The second one looks to be closer to the used. The nut? is thinner, more like the one on the PP#1.

Keep this in mind. While it is possible that these connectors originally had a functional purpose, I can't imagine it being a good or sturdy connection, especially in a trooping/con type environment. Even if you glued the plugs in place I am not sure using two small plugs as your only point of contact would be wise. I would still consider screwing the hose connector block to the gauntlet body.

I actually think the hose connector was filled and glued after the connection was made. IMO they just add the plugs onto the hose connector because they were in need of a connection to the jet pack via gauntlet, but after it was painted not to show it (except on PP#1/#3 which had the same gauntlets... I think they used them for ESB Hero with the hose connector add...).

Just my thoughts

Someone should organize a group order for this part (not me).

I could maybe help this side...

Originally Posted by Gino

Someone should organize a group order for this part (not me).

Originally Posted by Mojo-Fett

I could maybe help this side...

You could

I am thinking more of the entire base that attaches to the gauntlet at that spot.

If it is indeed an 1/8" stereo jack, it very well could be possibly a set of head phones from the 60's or 70's?

Just to clarify....this is the part I think could possible be a found part...



The whole hose connector.

Originally Posted by KaanE

you could

If you guys actually 'agree' on a part then I can see about purchasing a load?

There seems to be some confusion here. There is little doubt that the connectors are 1/8" type jacks... the larger concern that Gilmore has is that he believes the large block that the hose comes out of is a found item housing for the dual jacks.

That's true ART!

Well, I don't think it's a found item. It was not mentioned over the 'Fett parts list' which was released a few months ago.

They mention everything, include the casio MQ-1 and a 'plug pack' but they don't mention about any kind of headphones.

Maybe they used them, I'm not sure,but I don't think so...

I don't know if this pic will help or hinder progress;


BTW- that's on the Pre-Pro , not ROTJ

WOW! Do anyone know where it's attached to? (the cable of the pic)

Originally Posted by Gino

Someone should organize a group order for this part (not me).

hey FETTs

I can buy this parts really cheap and easy because I´m working at an electronic-parts-distributor (and MAPLIN is our customer )

Today I´ll get some samples from our stock and will send some pics.

That sounds good or sounds that good ?

Florian

Originally Posted by slave1pilot

I don't know if this pic will help or hinder progress;


BTW- that's on the Pre-Pro , not ROTJ

the top of the cable with the silver end looks like the microfone-connector which can be plugged into the bottom of the Jet Pack ?!?

Sorry Gilmore if I got this off track. I was just wondering out loud if the part was a found item or just cast around a couple of plugs. Sorry again.

This is getting very interesting indeed

Originally Posted by FettFanatic

Sorry Gilmore if I got this off track. I was just wondering out loud if the part was a found item or just cast around a couple of plugs. Sorry again.

No no not at all man, thats what this thread is for...thinking out loud.

Mainly we know that it has dual 1/8th (possibly stereo or mono) plugs that inserted into the main body of the gauntlet.

Just I'm trying to brainstorm as to if maybe there is an actual found item, perhaps the power cable to an electric skillet, vintage headphones jack, anything that that piece might possibly be. It looks though it is an XLR plug in slave1pilot's photo he posted. So that gives me even more of the reason to believe it could be revolving around a musical piece. So possibly XLR - dual mono 1/8th". That would actually make sense as a dual mono splitter would create stereo, just to 2 channels.

(<--------- Sound Engineer, LOL)

It also could still be completely feasible that that was just a cast shroud to hold the plugs, but to me it just seems overly done. That means they would have assembled the cable and jack assembly and then had to have either cast it, or placed it in some fashion to this housing. It seems as though they probably found that piece and said, ohh, this looks good. But that is just my opinion. Thoughts?

Interesting theory about music industry parts, especially since the JP has connectors on the bottom and the guantlet darts and one knee dart come from the Michell arm....

I know the prop department said the lightsabers were all used when they found a box full of old camera parts...maybe they had some sound and music recording/engineering equipment as well.

I don't know, all I can do is speculate. But I guess I will just start researching possible vintage connectors, headphone jacks, turntable jacks...

I've got duplicates of the part which tk2647 posted that are vintage late 1970's. They came from a facility that was built in 1978 and had their audio equipment that is still in use today.....it's the building that I currently work in.

I've got to check them out again, as I think the links that Kaane provided of the new parts are closer than the vintage ones I have.

Steve

Any progress on finding this part? I'm stumped on it as well. It looks a lot like the handle to a handheld shower head, or something similar to that. I'm baffled by this part also, as I've always thought it was something they just slapped on there.

It looks like a 1970's UK trimphone head to me..... this was a standard telephone design of the time .. it looks like someone hacked the head off of the mouthpiece end .. It would make sense as you could backmount the jackplugs then reseal the casing? just a thought. I'd post a pic but i have no idea how!

Originally Posted by Kilryth

Any progress on finding this part? I'm stumped on it as well. It looks a lot like the handle to a handheld shower head, or something similar to that. I'm baffled by this part also, as I've always thought it was something they just slapped on there.

Originally Posted by Archangel67

It looks like a 1970's UK trimphone head to me..... this was a standard telephone design of the time .. it looks like someone hacked the head off of the mouthpiece end .. It would make sense as you could backmount the jackplugs then reseal the casing? just a thought. I'd post a pic but i have no idea how!

Just to clarify this, here is an image that worths more than 1000 words:

Yes the George plug is a Guitar style jack .... i think you're completely correct on this one ... man made!