I LOVE this thread. Seeing all the detail and the quality you put into these pieces is so awesome. Its great getting on and seeing this thread has new posts in it.
Discussion on Resculpting my Fett armor within the Boba Fett Armor forum, part of the Star Wars Original Trilogy Bounty Hunters category; I LOVE this thread. Seeing all the detail and the
I LOVE this thread. Seeing all the detail and the quality you put into these pieces is so awesome. Its great getting on and seeing this thread has new posts in it.
Man, people certainly can't accuse you of being lazy! Great work!
Thank you very much guys!
I've still got a bit of work to do, but definitely much more on the way
That's looking great! Keep it up!
I made some more progress this week. I essentially finished all the secondary weathering and battle damage on the shells and flamethrower utilizing a combination of sanding, scratching/scraping, more spot chipping, pastel chalk brushing, black wash and airbrushing then topped it all off with a matte finish. I finished installing the flamethrower nozzles and added more switches, darts, and other greeblies to the shells. I'm still waiting on 2 momentary switches for the flamethrower I picked up on eBay to arrive. After I install those, I'll attach the flamethrower to the left gaunt and then install another toggle looking switch to the back of the left gaunt (near the red pilot light). The right gaunt is basically completed. Here's pics of everything:
All accessories on the right gaunt are attached with screws (predrilled holes into the resin pieces). I was skeptical about this at first but once I tightened everything down it all cinched up nice and snug for a great fit. Super sturdy too
I acquired this beautiful casting of a glenross dental expander from a good buddy in Arizona. I was very pleased to get this very difficult to find item from him..and such a great casting too
That's it for now until I get those switches I'm waiting for in the mail. Up next I'll be continuing work on the left gaunt rocket. I stripped down the old one and re primed and painted it. It sits in silver for now. I've just got to trace and mask it next.
Looks great. Cant wait to get mine!
Here's a few more pics of the rocket I knocked out today. Thanks to Richard (some guy named Lor) for hooking me up with some copper paint that I needed for the tip.
Up next, I need to attach the flamethrower to the left gaunt and add the momentary rendar type switches and the rear switch looking greeblie and these babies will be done!
Here's a quick little update. This **** thing took about 20 minutes to install cause I had a hard time getting my fingers inside the flamethrower to screw on the nut. I wanted that end inside the flamethrower so they weren't poking me while wearing the gaunts
Now just waiting on three switches to arrive in the mail and these babies will be DONE!
Outstanding indeed! Where were you 3 years ago when absolutely no one made gauntlets?
LOL well let me see, I was still very new to costuming and had just finished assembling my first Fett. I had never even DREAMED of sculpting my own armor after that. I had done very little sculpting for very basic shapes for some molds that I needed for my model scratchbuilding that I was heavy into at the time, but that was it.
I then recently got involved with the mercs (just over a year ago) and decided to give it a shot. I still need to go back and resculpt a few pieces (in particular the backplate), so I know I still have a long way to go to get where I want to be, but it's getting there. Thanks for hangin out and reading the thread..all of you
More to come!
I was only kidding about the red
Black and or white as the real ones were white vacformed,
Very sweet work
Insane man, just insane. Love the thread. Can't wait for my back plate. PM sent btw.
Thanks Michael! PM replied
Well, since I'm here I might as well update this thread some more. I finally got all of the last of the switches in and got them installed. I'm calling these gauntlets DONE! Take a look:
Once I got the gauntlets out of the way, it was time to move on to the rest of the body armor. So, that being said, here we go:
This is the very same armor that I make for everyone else. I can honestly say that I'm not only the president, but I'm also a client :P
The very first thing I had to do was shape the armor to my body. This required a heat gun, a few clamps and some patience. I didn't take pics of this part, but when I get to the backplate you'll see how it was done. After that was completed, I repeated the same process I did on the knees - Sand, prime, sand again, silver, and then matte coat sealer
After that, everything goes under bauhaus gold, then sanded smooth again and shot with matte finish again
Before that was painted, however, the silver areas were already masked off
Up next I lightly traced with a pencil the areas of the yellow that will remain exposed
After that is completed, the masking fluid is applied to those areas only (no need to remask the silver masked areas)
These are all now ready for some layers of green for the final topcoat...the ab plate will get a different color of green and masked off. Here's a few shots of that masking insanity
After that, I hit it with a few layers of the proper green and then peeled off the masking fluid (also very time consuming)
The wheat logo was also done with a 3 layer/part stencil. I realized afterwards that I made it too large, but it's staying put now :P
Then I went back to the armor to weather it and add the Fett clan logo. Same stencil process as the Jaing skull on the shoulder, then weathered afterwards
Now everything's weathered though it's a little hard to see in the pics
Here's some more pics outside in sunlight on the vest
Up next: Backplate, where I will go into GREAT detail on the painting, masking, and weathering process! Stay tuned!
As always. Looks stunning Will.
Looking swank , Have you or any one else completed a fett using all your parts ?
Thank you so much guys! I believe I am the only one who has completed a Fett using ALL my armor (there's been one or two who have completed Fett's using a few of my pieces). After I post pics of the backplate, I'll show completed pics with me in the armor all together
what color did u use on the shoulder bells? All my colors I gave u looks like very good job BTW
Bauhaus gold, just like you said.
For the armor plates I went with the US medium green 34102 from the bottle (airbrushed) as a base (it was too olivey though) and then misted it ever so lightly with Tamiya's AS-17 Dark green.. I think the color came out just about right, I'm pretty happy with it. Thanks again so much for your tips and advice on the paint, bro
good stuff looks great
Outstanding Job! Your attention to detail is amazing! Nicely done sir... nicely done indeed!
Thanks guys! More good stuff to come...I promise!
Awesome job Will! Great weathering
This has got to be one of the best threads and explanations I've seen. You have made me remod mine! FANTASTIC
Thanks again guys I hope this thread will help those of you who might need to know which direction to go with their armor and what steps to take. I'm just passing along the favor for those who have done the same for me that I learned from
It's a very minor thing but isn't the white detail of the center chest diamond supposed to be an added insert and not painted directly on the plate?
Hmmm..strange, I looked over all the ref pics and couldn't tell. Not saying it's not there, I just never noticed anything like that before. Is it a really thin piece that sits inside? Is there a ref pic anywhere that you could post? Any info would be great.
Here is the center chest piece from the gallery. Fett from C4 I believe..
depends on what diamond...the esb doesnt have one right?
I think they both have it.
Although, that pic looks lie it's molded on or at least the paint was thick enough to hide the seam.
yeh its there just gave it a good look
Wow you guys are ON it! I've never seen that picture before. That's what I love about this community is the crazy attention to detail which fuels our incentive to learn and get better. Great catch on that. That'll be an easy detail to fix/add
Alright [sigh] backplate round 2...Here we go.
I really wasn't that happy with my freshman attempt at sculpting the backplate so I decided to give it another go. I won't get into the details of how I sculpted it so I'll just start off with the raw pull and go from there.
I'm really pleased with this new sculpt, however, the shoulders needed to be formed just a bit in order to fit better ..no biggie though
Before I did that, I decided to finish trim the edges and cut out the JP slots and then sand it for priming
60 grit sandpaper for the edges to smooth them out...it needs it as these are pulled out of 1/8" inch so they're pretty tough
After that I hit the surface with some 180 to prep it for primer
Next I cut out the JP slots with the cutting wheel and then drilling holes in the corners...then finished it up with the file
After that I was ready to form the shoulders. Threw it in the clamp and hit it with the heat gun
One side done...still needed to knock out the other one
Test fit...looked pretty good.
After that I threw it on the mannequin with the flak vest and lined it up
These had to be trimmed to line up better ...I didn't take any after shots till after I painted it, but here's what it looked like before. This will get corrected later
Once I got it fitted the way I wanted it, I was ready for paint. First thing, hit it with the compressor and get all the dust off as well as a quick wipe down.
These are the two primers I like to use. The one on the left works really well, but it's nasty when it's in the air. Definitely gotta use a respirator with it. For this build, however, I'll be using the cheaper stuff on the right. It also works very well.
Here it is all primed up, but it obviously needs to be sanded again
I hit that with some 320 to get it nice and smooth and to help prevent any orange peel down the road.
Nice and smooth
Dry wipe it down and air it off again and hit it with some metallic aluminum
I didn't need to sand it after this layer so I just hit it with some matte sealer to dull it down and seal in the silver. There are two different types of sealer I used on this, Rusto matte clear and Testors dull coate. Both worked very well, but the testor's is much more expensive.
After that I did my pencil markings for the paint chipping and then went to town with the masking fluid
I like to use toothpicks for application of this stuff. They're a dime a thousand and the small tips allow for great detail work
Then it was time for some Bauhaus Gold
hit it with 320 again, wipe it down, air it off and hit with some matte sealer. Trace your yellow paint chip markings, and mask them all off just like before
After that it was time to start the green process. I first hit it with a base coat of some leftover Tamiya DK green AS-21
Looks pretty ****** doesn't it?? Fear not true believer for this is only the beginning..read on
Since I decided I was going to be airbrushing with the testors model master medium green (34102) I was going to need a base coat of green so I wouldn't have so much surface area to cover. I used the stuff in the bottle because it came out a much more accurate green than the medium green of the same brand in the can (I don't know why, don't ask me lol). So, mixing it with some thinner, I was able to get the proper consistency for the airbrush and covered the rest of the back with this little bottle.
Afte that I hit it lightly with some 600, just enough to smooth out any possible bumps. After that wipe it down and air it off again
This part was crucial to get just that right shade of green. The medium green (IMO) was just too olivey for my taste but had ALMOST the right color. I decided to try this color of Tamiya's AS-17 green and lightly mist it over the medium green and... voila!
Next up I decided to shift gears real quick and install the bolts for the collar studs
And a quick overall look of the green
Now that the painting was all done, it was time for the tedious task of removing all the masking fluid. When doing a two part masking process, I discovered it was a lot easier to work from the outside in when removing the masking fluid. I first removed the yellow parts and then the silver. I used a sharp exacto but I imagine a pair of tweezers would work very well too
At this point I realized that I forgot to add the dent on the upper right shoulder blade...but ahhh screw it, too late now lol. I did do some research and actually found a picture of it without a dent though (or at least it looks that way to me in the picture). I just looked for it to justify my screwup :P
The last part of this process was the weathering. There are several different methods with which to approach this and I'll only be touching on a few more relevant ones for that look which I'm trying to achieve. There are also other methods I didn't employ involving dirty/black washes, dry brushing, etc. which are also very effective and make for a great weathered look. Obviously I can't cover them all and I'm sure there are tons out there that I don't even know about or ones that you yourself have discovered. However, there are 2 major rules that you need to bear in mind when weathering:
1.) Weathering is RANDOM
2.) Yes, it is possible to overdo it...keep it subtle. Less is sometimes more when it comes to weathering.
Keeping that in mind, let's move on
The first thing I started out with was scratching. There's a ton of different ways to do it. Here's what I used:
After I was satisfied with all that, I got out my pastels and scraped me up some powders
Before going to town with those, I made some marks with the sticks themselves
You can utilize different methods of smearing the pastels. Everything from paper towels and tissues to just using your finger
I also used a colored pencil for a few areas
Next up was the pastel powder process. I just used a simple brush for application
Also, don't be afraid to mix your colors or have your weathering bleed into one another. More of that makes more randomness which translates into more believability as real weathering
After that, I misted the entire back plate very lightly with el cheapo black spray paint from Wmart
Up next was some good old fashioned one on one with the airbrush
Slapping/tapping the airbrush lever will give this splatter effect, which is what I was after
Man, you are so fast that is hard to follow your thread. Your overall job is amazing, easy to understand, easy to apply... by eye. Keep it up like this!
Thanks again buddy!
Fast, though? I don't know about that lol. I've been in the process of sculpting, assembling and painting since April of 2010..so almost a year now. It probably just seems fast because of the way I'm posting it all. I usually finish the project (or get really far ahead) and then go back and post pics and progress later. Thanks again for the kind words
Speaking of progress, here's the last little bit for this portion of the report
After all the weathering and airbrushing is done, the very last thing I did was cover the backplate with another coat of Testor's Dullcote. This serves two purposes: To get rid of any gloss or sheen and to seal in the pastel weathering so it won't rub off when being handled or worn.
Remember the collar stud bolts? Well, I wasn't able to purchase any metal collar studs (the member here was sold out) and I really didn't feel like waiting, so I made them from scratch with plastic bonder, styrene, and drawer handle ends that I chopped up for the female bolt ends. Take a look
After I shot them with some silver, I screwed them onto the bolts that I attached to the backplate. I also corrected the collar/backplate lineup issue. It was basically just a matter of cutting off the excess material. But I sculpted it with that in mind in order to have extra to accommodate a wider variety of body types
On another note (in between doing this and filling orders) I decided to take another crack at the chest armor with more accurate and ergonomic curves. My question to you all is, would there be any interest in me doing a run of these? Take a look and let me know what you all think. Based on the WOF large size templates with some mods by me to make it a little more accurate. ROTJ style pulled in .093 black boltaron (boltaron is another brand version of kydex...very tough and durable. Nice and smooth plastic too) I'm thinking $40 a set shipped. Here's pics:
I'm also considering making the backplate available in a few weeks after I do some prep work to the mold. Pulled out of 1/8" inch ABS black plastic. I'm thinking $80 shipped is a fair price. What say ye?
Last edited by redkraytdragon; Mar 31, 2011 at 12:43 AM.
That backplate looks good.
Out standing work red
wow great job so far. love the paint mask. real cool stuff
Thanks Ken Very easy stuff to work with and peels beautifully!
I've decided to make the chest plates available here: http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f31/r...ing-run-41470/
AND I've decided to make the backplates available..go here: http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f31/i...ailable-41515/
I've also resculpted the cod piece to make it more accurate and will likely be making these available later in the week after finishing getting the mold prepped, take a look and let me know what you all think:
Painted in silver to show detail only
Last edited by redkraytdragon; Mar 31, 2011 at 12:44 AM.
So I finally finished up my version 2 collar to finish out the set. Take a look:
Here's a pic of the new Version 2 full set with some of the old parts like gaunts and knees:
I've decided to make these sets available. Check out the thread here:
Very nice work!
I had read the thread before and I was going to ask if you were planning on making the gauntlets available as well and now I see you are offering them up, nice.
Thanks Natrix! Yes, I've actually had these available for quite a while now but just recently made them available here on TDH. I am looking into getting some thicker tougher plastic to pull these gaunts in, but it's going to be a few months before I can make that happen...but, still moving forward
Man, I just did a quick scroll through this thread and I'm blown away by your skills! Great work man!
Thanks escho, much appreciated my friend. I have to admit that my V2 is still not 100% accurate, but a much greater improvement over the old V1
And here you all thought I was done with this thread! Not quite...
I'm still sporting my old Version 1 chest, collar and cod. Those will be getting replaced with my Version 2 pieces cause I'm really not happy with the flat chest pieces I have now and the way they sit on my torso.
I'll slowly be working on these between filling orders, having a day job, a gf, a real life, etc, etc, :P But I just wanted to let you all see the ones I've started on. I went with V2 collar and chest set in boltaron (minus diamond cause the one I have now is already good) and a V2 cod in ABS...all black. As of right now, all pieces are pulled, cut and finish trimmed. After that I'll be doing some light sanding and prepping for primer and paint...
Also, take a look at that nasty wrinkle in the plastic on the cod. I'm not sure if it was there before I did the pull or not, or what (cause I didn't notice it till I was already well into the heating process). I have a feeling it was already there before the pull...either way it was weird cause I've never ever seen that on any pieces of my plastic before. It doesn't really matter though cause I'm just gonna sand the **** out of it and smooth it out anyway, but I just wanted to point it out as well as to show those of you who are interested how to fix a problem like that. Take a look at the pics below and, as always, stay tuned!!
Got a little more progress for you all. All pieces are sanded and primed (and sanded again). I opted NOT to shape these pieces with a heating gun as I felt they were already good for my body style straight off the table...take a look
Remember that nasty wrinkle? ...Gone! A sanding block took care of that
Now this next part might seem redundant for many of you, but I have actually had a fair number of people ask me how to cut out the chest light display slots so here it is in pictures....there's probably a number of different ways to do this but here's the way I did mine
I swapped to a smaller dremel bit to cut the vertical lines
Still rough, so up next I hit with a few files (some different sizes and smaller ones to get into the tight spots)
To help me speed up this process (cause it felt like I was filing FOREVER and this boltaron is pretty tough) I VERY carefully ran my cutting bit along the edges to flatten them out closer to the lines I had drawn...this also helped tremendously in straightening out the edges before a quick final filing
And the final result after some more filing...I also lightly cleaned up the corners and edges with an exacto knife
After this was done, I hit everything with the same primer that I've been using (refer to the previous posts in this thread) and then sanded it with 400 grit
And here in this pic you can't even tell there was ever a wrinkle in the plastic! I'm pretty pleased with the result
These bad boys are now ready for silver. Stay tuned!
Moving along on this, got the pieces all under metallic silver and some matte clear coat:
Up next will be tracing and masking for the silver layer then some bauhaus gold
OK so it's been a while since my last report. Sorry for so long in between but I've been slammed with orders as well as trying to squeeze in sculpting another new costume....oh and having a life (what's that?? ;P)
So I want you all to take a moment with me and think a little bit different about the way we've all been approaching attaching the armor to the vest. I know there's been about a half a dozen ways to do this, but I've always thought that there has to be another way that might be a little easier and less time consuming...so of course I thought - MAGNETS
I know, I know you're probably thinking "How in the heck can you make that work?" Well, let me now show you
I went online and found some really strong (probably even too strong) magnets that will fit right inside the armor. These are 12-16 pounders if I remember correctly, but after doing this I can honestly say that you'll easily get away with using 8-10 pounders if you decide to go this route...
After that, I attached 5 to each chest plate and 6 to the ab....with the corresponding pieces, that comes to a total of 22 magnets!
I used some trusty Devcon plastic welder and they're not comin' off! lol
Sanded down the areas first of course
After that was done, all I had to do was line it up on the vest and throw the magnets on the back of it. The best part is that if it's not lined up, you can just move them around a little to exactly where you need them and you're not having to mangle the vest or sew anything or punch holes or anything! (vest courtesy of LSFU). Also, if you want to wash your vest, you just need to take them off. Now there is one catch though, I won't be able to do the collar this way because of the way it likes to pull back towards your throat and the magnets won't prevent that, they'll just slide...that piece will have to be done with either snaps or, in this case, I'll be doing mine with bolts. Pics of that will come much later
The bad news, these were EXPENSIVE, running me right around just under $100 with shipping
The good news, you will only ever do this one time and they won't wear out and you won't have to do anything to the vest itself, keeping it in better shape for a longer period of time. Plus it took me only about 20 minutes to do this.
That's it for now! I need to do some painting next! Stay tuned!
Been a really long time since I posted in here but I did finally get this V2 set finished up. I ran into some issues with the magnets that I didn't think through enough but I got that part figured out. They were actually SO strong that they were pulling the armor over itself. I thought I was really screwed until I came up with a rather simple solution...just cut out some pieces of thin metal to stabilize the magnets between the plates and keep them from grabbing onto each other.
Here's what I did for the collar seeing as how magnets would likely just slide and not keep the collar from pulling back choking me
And here's the front set all painted up (I also redid the diamond, but it's just not present in these photos)
After that part was done, I did the stencil thing again (thanks to Lor) for the chest Fett emblem. Pretty happy with it and I love the results (only took a few pics towards the end of that process, but you get the idea)
After that I did some weathering, reassembled the armor to my new vest (LSFU) and added the shoulders and wookie braids then took my happy arse to ACE over the weekend and got some really cool shots (HIC courtesy of FAC)
That's it for now....Thanks for looking and STAY TUNED...I'm still not done with this costume yet
Wow! The armor and the paint job looks killer! And I like the painted chest logo too. There's one thing that bothered me when I saw the images: the collar plate looks too liniar and not angled, parallel with the chest plate lines. I know the collar is well made, but the problem might be because of the way you attached it to the vest. You might try to adjust it a bit, this way the overall look of the armor will be insane.
I already see happy faces all around TDH with the 'I need the new RKD armor so bad' thoughts in their minds. You are a valuable asset to this community!
It's official...this is my favorite thread on TDH. Amazing sir.....I am speechless
You're right Rafa, I noticed that too. I need to go back and readjust that
Thank you my friend!
Great job Will ! Your paint job looks stellar. I really appreciate this step by step thread on all the details on how you did the paint job and assembly, it's definitely going to help out on when I order some of your armor!
That, was a fun read awesome build, full of really useful details. Loved the paint-up
I'm just paying it forward on the paint up parts...I really was kind of clueless myself until I saw another's WIP here who shared his methods (I can't remember who it was anymore, but his paint job was incredible) and he made it really easy to follow (painting is not really my forte but I'm getting better at it and starting to understand it a little more each time I do it), so I thought I'd do the same! If you have a chance at all to do the airbrushing thing, I highly recommend it...the results are unparalleled.
Stay tuned, I've still got more planned for this!!
Thank you again for your help on that, it was (and continues to be) much appreciated
Last edited by redkraytdragon; Jun 17, 2012 at 6:02 PM. Reason: spelling correction :P
I know it worked out well, its looking good...On the collar though it looks like its straight like Rafal was saying in the pics. Is it the same collar?
Ya it's the same collar, just need to make an adjustment on the chest pieces. I think they're angled downward too much.
Great call on the Magnet's, I think I'll try that approach for my Jodo.
Paint looks top notch too.
Thank you much Scar
RKD you really amaze me, the build, the paint up, love the layered coats gave it some depth and reality, the whole rig would be proud to wear, stand tall man! huge effort and time.
Thanks Roba, appreciate that bro! I'm by no means an expert, but I like to think that I get by lol Your gaunts in your thread came out freakin amazing by the way...really good work my friend
These are excellent!
Here's a few quick pics of some of my V2 knees that I recently assembled for a client. He didn't want them primed so I snapped a few shots before putting them in his box. Enjoy!
nice! but the black does not show it off, still looks very nice
Thanks RF...yeah it's hard to get some good shots of the black cause it just doesn't like light, and it's hard to show off that the V2's are actually one piece of plastic...the outer shell (as opposed to my V1's where the outer shell is three pieces)
Just got done reading through this. Great to see how the product in your sale thread came to be.
Thanks bro, appreciate it! It's a TON of work but also VERY rewarding
Where did you order the magnets from? Is there a specific brand that you recommend?
Did you use a magnet for the center chest diamond?
Thanks for all that you do Will.
Steve hit me up I'll send you a pic of how to do the chest diamond...with magnets
Adopt Adapt improve. Great to see an already great maker up his game.
Thanks guys, appreciate the kind words
That was one of the pieces that had been bugging me for quite some time and I was glad to get rid of the old mold and replace it with the new one on the shelf!
I do have plans to remake the entire kit (albeit a bit smaller) using Rafa's awesome (and accurate) templates. Stay tuned!
Thanks again Will for the nice comments!
Actually what I meant was that the new V3 set will be smaller than my current V2 stuff, sorry about the confusion. Either way, WOF medium range is EXACTLY what I'm aiming for with this. Thanks again Raf!
Can't wait to see it........
Wow...this is mad impressive! I will be asking for all sorts of advice once I get my kit from you and start my 1st build. Thanks for sharing!!!