Ok, about US Medium Green

I may finally be coming around to repainting my armor correct color. Now I did a forum search but didn't get a straight answer. US Medium green is the name of it? Or is it a Medium Green in the US? The only thing I found in the forum search was this http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=322 is that what I am gonna want or is it gonna be named Medium Green.

I found a spray of a Medium green, I will add a pic, but the pic really is iffy...

The Floquil/Polly Scale color you linked to is the one you want. The name of the color is "US Medium Green."
Testors Model Master Medium Green isn't the right shade.

u.s. med green is the name. made by floquil/polyscale ive only found it in the acrylic polyscale. heres the item # flof505082

i got mine here
http://www.hobbylinc.com/cgi-bin/s7....u.s.+med+green


edit>> SJ beat me too it :p

Us medium green is a FS color so it should be correct across the board but as you can see it isn't unfortunately. Might try US dark green in testors may work better give it a shot just remember the color will be lighter out of the bottle and then weathering it changes it drastically.

Lee

So, the US Medium Green that is linked won't come out right?

Satxer
I used the US MED Green in your link
That's what I used for JB's Jet Pack, so I guess it's good.
I think I also used that for my ROTJ armour, but I don't know for sure now
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showt...ghlight=armour

Slave1. You used US med green on the JP????? WOW, quite a difference in weathering then, as they said that they used US med green on the armour as well...yet there is a drastic difference between the two color-wise!! Definately interesting!! Just goes to show how much difference weathering can make!!!!!
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Believe me, the Floquil US Med Green is not the same as Testors Med Green.
As Lee mentioned above, it is a Fed Std color, so you'd think different manufacturers would keep the color consistent, but I tried the Testors Med Green and it really lacks the slightly bluish base that the US Med Green has.
Just doesn't look right to me.

Mine was Floquil
I have some bottles in the garage
I'll make sure tomorrow

Originally Posted by Jango's kid

Slave1. You used US med green on the JP????? WOW, quite a difference in weathering then, as they said that they used US med green on the armour as well...yet there is a drastic difference between the two color-wise!! Definately interesting!! Just goes to show how much difference weathering can make!!!!!
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Yeah, those colors look really different in tone. Slave1 was the same color used on both jet pack and armor?

Originally Posted by sithlord23

Yeah, those colors look really different in tone. Slave1 was the same color used on both jet pack and armor?

I really can't recall
I had so many paints when I did mine
& the original thread disappeared cuz it was in the sarlaac pit
I'll look around

It had to be US MEd Green
That's what Lee had on his list & that's what I went by
The weathering does make a big difference

Yeah, weathering sure does. The armor and jet pack look great btw.

Well, as long as that Floquil US Med Green is proper for ESB armor, than I guess I will be set. My jet pack looks good, I just think it is time to color the armor properly. I am currently sitting on a Hunter Green Satin. Would I have to do extra weathering on the armor to get the right color or is that you weathered the Jet Pack a lighter color?

Plus I looked at that spray I got yesterday and it didn't look too bad. But I may have to try and take better pics.

Don't be fooled by the name like I was! Polly Scale US Med Green is numbered A/N 612 and Testors Med Green is FS 34102. Totally different colors with similar names. I have yet to find US Med Green in enamel by any maker. That color may or may not have been used in ESB, I don't think we'll ever know for sure.

I definately wanna get the right stuff. I am getting mixed answers on that link now.

Here's the link... http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=322

Spidey you do amazing work...on that alone I am gonna follow your word.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Nate...I think when we talked about how you were going to paint the JB Jet Pack that we went with PANZER OLIVE GREEN as the base..... maybe even a Panzer Olive Grun (enamel) ..not US Medium green.
The base for JB's armor is US Medium Green...and in that picture you can really see the difference.

You are correct
I did the JP in in POG
MY Armour is US MED Green
I better start writing this stuff down

One other question, would it not be a good idea to paint right over the huntergreen that I have on their now? If it helps any for info on it, it is a Krylon Hunter Green Satin spray paint. I am just trying to find the easiest way to paint it. Whether it comes down to needing to sand off the old paint and repaint it or what.

Since we are on this subject and I can't find the other thread, what is the yellowish color that is used on the ESB armor thats on the weathered parts?

According to this thread...

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showt...ghlight=colors

Zinc Chromate or Yellow chromate is what I read. I know Reffer Yellow is for the shoulders and knees, but don't think it is for the damage

Originally Posted by Satxer

One other question, would it not be a good idea to paint right over the huntergreen that I have on their now? If it helps any for info on it, it is a Krylon Hunter Green Satin spray paint. I am just trying to find the easiest way to paint it. Whether it comes down to needing to sand off the old paint and repaint it or what.

I would recommend some light sanding first.... nothing too rough...

Originally Posted by 99centTaco

Since we are on this subject and I can't find the other thread, what is the yellowish color that is used on the ESB armor thats on the weathered parts?

and here is what was used on the JB Project...
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showp...4&postcount=40

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

I would recommend some light sanding first.... nothing too rough...

Ok, just enough to take off a little paint but still keeping a fine layer of it? I just don't want to run into where the paint starts cracking. Like when you mix 2 different brands of Spray paint. But if it is airbrushing on, I don't see that happening.

Originally Posted by Satxer

Ok, just enough to take off a little paint but still keeping a fine layer of it? I just don't want to run into where the paint starts cracking. Like when you mix 2 different brands of Spray paint. But if it is airbrushing on, I don't see that happening.

If you are sanding Sintra/vac-formed armor...then I would recommend wetsanding....it's quicker and your finsh will be perfect.

and I'm assuming you are painting topical?

I actually used the Testors Medium Green as a primer for my armor. Then I airbrushed the Floquil US Med Green over it.
I wanted to use a primer that was close to the top coat. . . use less paint that way.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

If you are sanding Sintra/vac-formed armor...then I would recommend wetsanding....it's quicker and your finsh will be perfect.

and I'm assuming you are painting topical?

It is Fiberglass MLC.

Did a little online research last night, and I think I found an enamel equivalent for "US Med Green". First of all the Testors "Med Green" has the FS (Federal Standard) number 34102. Testors also makes an acrylic with the same FS # called "TAC-MED Green". STAY AWAY FROM THESE!! THEY ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO "US MED GREEN"!

The Polly Scale "US Med Green" has the code ANA 612 (Navy Air Craft Colors).
I have yet to check it out, but FS 34092 is supposedly a close match to ANA 612. Testors sells "European Green" in enamel with the FS 34092 code. It might be a little dark, but I'm sure much closer than what we've had in the past. Next time I'm at the hobby shop, I'm picking up a couple of bottles to test it out.

Hope this helps somebody out.

Definately let us know how the color testing goes!!!!! Thanx
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this may be a dumb question... do you mostly airbrush the paint or use a brush, which looks better?

Airbrush all the way, TK5019. You can use a brush to add topical damage, but all base colors need to be airbrushed.

I went ahead and picked up a few bottles yesterday. It's sold as Model Master "Euro Dark Green". It used to be the color on the back of the ESB helmet on the RS color list. He's since changed that to RLM 73. I haven't sprayed it out yet, but I like the look of it. It's a nice blueish green.

I think the Euro Dark Green is too dark for the armor.
I use it as a base for mixing a custom color for the back panels of my ESB helmets.

As long as I got the right stuff from that Testors link, up above. I am gonna be sanding my armor soon and don't wanna color it wrong. I wonder why it hasn't updated the order yet though.

I think the biggest misunderstanding folks have with these colors is they were worked over after being sprayed on and if folks expect it to look exactly right by just spraying it on might be in for a dissappointment. it's a little more complicated than that and getting the look right and applying proper weathering techniques. So don't be bummed at first.

Weathering isn't a problem. It is getting the color to look the closest before weathering. Not to mention, how inaccurate does hunter green look on all of Boba's armor?

Originally Posted by superjedi

I think the Euro Dark Green is too dark for the armor.

As I said in an earlier post, it is a little dark, but SOOO much closer than Testors Med Green. For those of us painting with enamels, we don't have much of a choice. I'll probably end up getting a bottle of Polly Scale acrylic US Med Green so I can match it better. Who knows, but it might looks pretty good with a drop or two of white to lighten it up.

In finding this information, I also found a website where you can compare FS paint chips. It's pretty cool, and you can click on this link to see how FS 34092 compares to FS 34102.

http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=34092+34102

In the interest of full disclosure, here's where I found the original info:

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazin...colours_us.htm

It's a really cool article about the history of military paint colors, where they were used, and how the names and formulations have changed.

-Ryan

No comment on Hunter Green or Catapillar yellow either.

I know what Hunter Green looks like, I have it as my armor color now. It doesn't look bad, but it is quite different I admit.

Here, I have done a test spraying with my airbrush experimenting with the European DK green. When the US med green comes in tomorrow, I will post a comparison pic for ya.

Awesome, Saxter! I can't wait to see how they compare.

Hey do me a favor and try some Dark green if you can nab some.

I won't be able to stop by the store that sells the paint til tomorrow after work, but I will do.

Ok, got to painting today, pic 1 is inside with a light on and flash any daylight left.

Pic 2 is taken outside with hardly

Pic 3 is the comparison.

The dark green looks closer to that italian olive spray paint. The only other question is, should I seal this with anything for a protective layer? Or will it be fine?

How would you say the Euro Dark green compares with the US Med Green? From your pics it doesn't look too dark, but maybe too blue.

if that euro green just had afew more drops of green to it it would be a great color

Ok, this morning I check on the armor, and didn't realize it left such a rough coat on it, so I used a real fine sandpaper and cleaned it up, than added a new coat. Later in the afternoon I decided to do the details on it. The weatherin pics aren't shown, but I did that a little bit ago.

Originally Posted by BOBA PHAT

How would you say the Euro Dark green compares with the US Med Green? From your pics it doesn't look too dark, but maybe too blue.

Ok, to answer your question, it is different. Definately darker.

Took a better pic for ya.

Thanks! I'll eventually get a bottle of US Med Green, and see if I can tweak the Euro Green to better match it.

The US Med green looks great in person. Gotta find out why my camera sucks. The Euro dark green looks a bit like a flat Spray of Hunter Green.

I picked up a bottle of the Polly US Med Green, and tested it vs. a lightened Euro Dark green. I didn't get it quite light enough, but no matter as it has way too much blue in it. I also tried out a lightened Topside green, which was closer, but also too blue. Seems too much trouble to keep mixing to match it. If I end up using Med Green, I'll just use the acrylic and keep my enamel air brushing on top.