Harness received. Thanks! :)
Harness received. Thanks! :)
Got my harness. Seriously impressive work fellas! There are very few things I have been able to be 100% happy with the accuracy of. This harness is one of those things. Great work Gino, Gav, and Rob!
Got my harness, looks awesome.
Cool pics and nice to see progress...
Still have the last few of these accurate harnesses... :thumbsup
Once they're gone...
ugh..i want one of these...but dunno when ill have $300 beans to let go. Lord willing you will still have one when i can get the cash!
Great work. Was the actual harness ever discovered?
I dont think it has been. There are pics of it, which is how Gav n co got to this point, but i dont think the original was discovered yet. Ive heard people say it could be an diving oxygen tank harness or a fire dept oxygen tank harness. The diver buckle may have been part of the reason it was thought to be a divers oxygen tank harness, but as far as i know, so far, it has not been discovered.
D V: Thanks. I met a scuba instructor this week who has been in the business since 1956. He said he has never seen a dive harness like the one used for the costume. I dug through a bunch of old stuff he had. Nothing was even close. It does resemble some fire tank harnesses I found on-line.
Yea i remember it looking really similar to a couple of fire tank harnesses but i dont think anyone has found a match yet! Would be awesome if we did! The folks on here have discovered some crazy stuff over the years!
Mojo's is the most accurate to the reference photos with BooBooFetts being a close second. Kcr7pr's isnt dead on accurate, but its the same type and made from aluminum which is WAY lighter! I actually own a BBF one and have one of Kcr7pr's here, and the weight difference is great..probably half the weight at least. Currently i think he is the only one making this type of harness.
Yea i remember it looking really similar to a couple of fire tank harnesses but i dont think anyone has found a match yet! Would be awesome if we did! The folks on here have doscovered some crazy stuff over the years!
I have the BBF harness, and it's about 3.5 pounds. Wonder what the actual weight of the Kcr7pr one is.
he weighed it in his thread i think he said iwas about 1.5ish pounds. I have both of them here right now..the Kcr7pr one is WAY lighter. I think i may take comparison pics just in case anyone wants them. The BBF one is mine the Kcr7pr one is not, so it wont be here long :)
Working on my own, though locally sourced work and supplies scrounged thanks to Ye Olde Internet. I'm doing essentially the Supertrooper version. I've got 1-7/8" nylon SCUBA strapping that's close to the original, even if the weave doesn't have the correct diagonal grain to it. I found a place in the UK that has perfect 40mm white cotton strapping, with the correct weave, even. I'll post up a picture tomorrow. It fits the pack-hook rings perfectly. Those and the rest of the buckles and rings so far I got from FullMetalFett, and they're bloody brilliant.
So here's my question. Those upper pack straps... I know they look through the ring and are riveted. I know the other end is rigorously sewn to the main straps. But there's a gray area there. Is that strap completely doubled -- one length folded in half and ends lined up, with that stitched down, and then riveted closer to the ring? Or does the bit fed through the ring end short of the upper portion, closer to where it's riveted? I'm hoping another set of eyes or three squinting at the few images we have of visible pack straps will turn up a semi-clear answer.
Ah, well. Was hoping someone would have opined on this. *heh*
Here's what I've got so far:
White, I know. It's cotton, and I have dye. I am emulating the Supertrooper style, but I reserve the right to rivet it it at some point if unriveted proves problematic (I will, of course, leave it unriveted for my actual Supertrooper costume). Compare to the original:
Looking great to me!
Where are you getting the rectangular loops? Making them?
FullMetalFett. He's got a sale thread in the Cargo Hold, IIRC. He offers these rings, the four rings to cinch the shoulder straps, both versions of the US Divers buckle, the waist strap tensioner, and upper and lower pack hooks with screws and backplates. Man's a godsend. ^_^
I like your PP2 shoulder badge. *points to user icon*
The Supertrooper/Pre-Pro #1 jetpack harness strap is sewn to the upper harness in a loop form which doesn't 'double' to the end (it is not sandwiched the whole lenghth). Here is an image that explains this:
As Gino already said, it is very possible that the AoSW/C-IV exhibit jetpack harness IS the reused Supertrooper/Pre-Pro #1 harness (it has similar belt buckle too):
Pretty much what I could tell from that Supertrooper test-fitting pic. Don't suppose you've been able to work yourmagic and find dimesions? That angle -- straight on from the back -- doesn't give much useful perspective. :/
I can work with that. For me, it's mostly been a matter of never being able to quite make out how far forward on the shoulder strap the pack strap ends. I estimated about 90mm from the shoulder seam of the vest back to the end of the strap, but on the Supertrooper test pic it looks like the pack strap doesn't quite go all the way to that point. Is that your thinking, too?
Right. I'm making the black straps on mine adjustable, too. But I don' think that would do much to affect the positioning of the pack strap. There would have to be a significant size difference in individuals wearing the same harness. I know what you're saying about the riveted straps being longer. That's one thing that's always bothered me about them -- the jetpack looks like it's hanging off the backplate because of it. Thanks for you insight. :) And thanks again to Gino for starting this thread lo these many moons ago. I know lately it's been being used more to nail down details than an interest/sign-up thread, but that run has long since closed and I'm still wanting to make an accurate rig myself. :)