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    Just finished attaching my chest armour to the vest. i used steel eyelets, as can be seen on the ILM props. i bought the eyelets from a 'Hobbycraft' store, they are very easy to attach, everything is included in the pack except a hammer.

    You can trace around your own armour onto cardboard for a template, but make sure that you keep the same curvature or the holes in your jacket won't line up with the bolts on your armour when finished.

    Just a note: If you wish to troop in your armour you will need to cut off any excess bolt when finished (a dremel will do the job), get the bolt as short as possible so it won't dig into you.
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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    Cool!

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    good job Daz !
    i search how i fix my bobamaker armor on my flak jacket now i see the answer ! but can i fix the bolt without maked a hole ?

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    Very good idea, DAZ!

    Got a question for people trooping in the armor. After walking around and putting the armor on and off for multiple events, there may be chance one of the bolts may come loose. Would you recommend using a thread-locker (like medium strength lock-tight) to prevent this from happening?

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    Using a dab of hot glue on the end would keep it fastened and provide a little cushion from the bolt head.

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    Great Idea! And I really like your addition of the hot glue MandaloreFett, just peel the glue off when you need to and reglue it. Hot glue's cheap. I think this is the route i'll end up going.

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    Awesome tutorial Daz!

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    Great job Daz! I have been meaning to do a tutorial on this forever.

    If anyone is curious, I know how to make it with a pretty accurate pattern for attachment, and many other things too if anyone is intrested.

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    Really nice to see this method being so nicely laid out. If anyone asks, this is the way to go. Thank you BM!
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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by MandalorFett View Post
    Using a dab of hot glue on the end would keep it fastened and provide a little cushion from the bolt head.

    Or, you could use a cap nut. It screws on, and has a rounded head. No mess, and it doesn't dig into you. Drop of Loctite Threadlocker, and you're good to go!
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    Why would you need to take your armor off?
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    Hi

    Try these, they're called "locking end caps" or "star washers" these will be perfect These won't come off whilst trooping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy BufFETT View Post
    Very good idea, DAZ!

    Got a question for people trooping in the armor. After walking around and putting the armor on and off for multiple events, there may be chance one of the bolts may come loose. Would you recommend using a thread-locker (like medium strength lock-tight) to prevent this from happening?
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    Great tutorial Daz, I'll definitely be doing this for my armour.....

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    Great tutorial Daz... :thumbup
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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by dung0beetle View Post
    Why would you need to take your armor off?

    after hours of trooping in the heat wearing (maybe) a t-shirt, then the jumpsuit, then the padded vest, then a layer of some sort of plastic or other hard material to hold in the heat and the vest is bound to get stinky. If not you could end up spilling something on it or having someone spill something on you.

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    I think DB was being sarcy...
    It's nice to be important... But it's more important to be FETT...

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    I couldn't find the sarcasm smiley...
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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    That's cool... I more or less did the same with the grommets on my ESB Boba. What I like is I can get the vest really tight up against the back of the armour, no gap like I had with snaps or velcro
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    Just when i needed a better method, you come up with the goods . Thanks Daz

    oh the new method will work wonders with some new armour i am about to order expect the order any day soon daz
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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    Great method Daz, I think I'll upgrade to this with my current armor even before I upgrade to my newer armor. I also really like your tutorial method, very easy to follow.

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    What about those of us that don't have resin copies of our armor lying around?

    How do you mark the holes in that case? Or do you just make paper/cardboard copies?

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    looks nice Daz i used the good ol snap method and that worked well but this is great
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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    How would I make resin copies? anyway to do it with stuff around the house?

    Quote Originally Posted by bobamaker View Post
    Just finished attaching my chest armour to the vest. i used steel eyelets, as can be seen on the ILM props. i bought the eyelets from a 'Hobbycraft' store, they are very easy to attach, everything is included in the pack except a hammer.

    You can trace around your own armour onto cardboard for a template, but make sure that you keep the same curvature or the holes in your jacket won't line up with the bolts on your armour when finished.

    Just a note: If you wish to troop in your armour you will need to cut off any excess bolt when finished (a dremel will do the job), get the bolt as short as possible so it won't dig into you.

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    How do you go about this with the collar and back armor bolts? What I mean is do you have a seperate attachment point for the collar armor to the vest that is different from where the collar and back armor connect with the "keyboard key" bolts/studs. And following this same train of thought, when you are attching the backplate you can't really use this method can you? How could you screw it on once the vest is on you? Would you just use velcro or snaps then on the back along with the bolts/studs?

    I hope I made this clear...not sure how best to ask this...i'll wait to attach the collar and back until I get that all figured out i guess.

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    the collar should overlap with the backplate, therefore you can make the studs into bolts themselves. This way you can bold on the cape and have a hinge like atachment, the rest of it is snaps or velcro.

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    My attachment issues have been solved :thumbup
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    umm....I think i will use this method to attach my brand *NEW* BM armour
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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    What sort of epoxy filler did you use?

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    I have a question.

    Do you find that the vest material holds up ok to the stress of the eyelets?

    Do you think that a reinforcement in the area of the eyelet would be helpful?

    Could you please send a diagram to me of where you place the eyelets.

    I am considering adding reinforcement to my vests, before they are sewn together.

    Do you think that the location of the eyelets would be about the same for everyone?

    What I am think of is placing a reinforcing patch, on the inside of the vest, that would be under the locations of where the eyelet will go.

    So, if the eyelet will be withing a 2 inch radius, I could add this to the vest and the actual eyelet, could be adjusted to the individual the the reinforcing fabric would still be in a good place to do the job.

    Everyone........please let me know your opinions.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    What sort of epoxy filler did you use?
    I use an automotive epoxy filler.

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    The jacket is certainly strong emough to hold the armour, I didn't need to reinforce at all.

    You can see where I attached the bolts on my photos, they are indicated by the holes on the template armour. For the shoulders I used one on each side and one at the top (3 for each).

    I think that the location of the eyelets will work for all makes of armour.

    Hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadySewforus View Post
    I have a question.

    Do you find that the vest material holds up ok to the stress of the eyelets?

    Do you think that a reinforcement in the area of the eyelet would be helpful?

    Could you please send a diagram to me of where you place the eyelets.

    I am considering adding reinforcement to my vests, before they are sewn together.

    Do you think that the location of the eyelets would be about the same for everyone?

    What I am think of is placing a reinforcing patch, on the inside of the vest, that would be under the locations of where the eyelet will go.

    So, if the eyelet will be withing a 2 inch radius, I could add this to the vest and the actual eyelet, could be adjusted to the individual the the reinforcing fabric would still be in a good place to do the job.

    Everyone........please let me know your opinions.

    Thanks!

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    It sounds like reinforcement would not be needed.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobamaker View Post
    I use an automotive epoxy filler.

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    Daz,

    what brand did you use? I was thinking of using 2 part epoxy resins but i am sure they won't be strong enough.
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    I would suggest Isopon P38, ive used it in the past alot, great stuff, stinks though

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    What about using JB Weld?
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    Help ,
    where can I find the eyelets at ? I've looked everywhere and all the ones I can find are too large for the job.....
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    I got mine at Jo-Anne's

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    Quote Originally Posted by thundrkiss View Post
    Help ,
    where can I find the eyelets at ? I've looked everywhere and all the ones I can find are too large for the job.....


    If they haven't stopped carrying fabric and crafts (like many around the country have) your local Wal*Mart should have the right sized eyelets. If not, they may have what you need at a camping supply, as they are often used to repair tents.

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    I used a similar method on my first set of armor. I put the bolts on first, though, and chalked the tips to mark the fabric while the vest was on my mannquin. I think I did one piece at a time to ensure the chalk didn't come off in the handling. It's been years, so my memory is a little fuzzy on that.

    On the inside of the vest, I had a plastic sheet insert that basically acted as a big washer with holes for all the bolts. The plastic sections, cut to fit each section of armor, sandwiched the vest.

    On the new setup I'm working on, I was hoping to try the craft push pins, with the metal pinch clip on the other side (not sure of the exact name for those). Wondering how well they will hold up the weight of fiberglass armor, but I have a bunch of them. They would elimate some of the work if all you have to do is push the pins through the fabric, and it would also allow for ease in upgrading or changing armor while keeping the vest intact. Don't know if this will work or not, but I'll be trying it soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave I View Post
    On the new setup I'm working on, I was hoping to try the craft push pins, with the metal pinch clip on the other side (not sure of the exact name for those). Wondering how well they will hold up the weight of fiberglass armor, but I have a bunch of them. They would elimate some of the work if all you have to do is push the pins through the fabric, and it would also allow for ease in upgrading or changing armor while keeping the vest intact. Don't know if this will work or not, but I'll be trying it soon.

    that's an interesting idea... wouldn't the backers for those pins be sort of uncomfortable though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave I View Post
    I used a similar method on my first set of armor. I put the bolts on first, though, and chalked the tips to mark the fabric while the vest was on my mannquin. I think I did one piece at a time to ensure the chalk didn't come off in the handling. It's been years, so my memory is a little fuzzy on that.

    On the inside of the vest, I had a plastic sheet insert that basically acted as a big washer with holes for all the bolts. The plastic sections, cut to fit each section of armor, sandwiched the vest.

    On the new setup I'm working on, I was hoping to try the craft push pins, with the metal pinch clip on the other side (not sure of the exact name for those). Wondering how well they will hold up the weight of fiberglass armor, but I have a bunch of them. They would elimate some of the work if all you have to do is push the pins through the fabric, and it would also allow for ease in upgrading or changing armor while keeping the vest intact. Don't know if this will work or not, but I'll be trying it soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk7602 View Post
    that's an interesting idea... wouldn't the backers for those pins be sort of uncomfortable though?
    Shouldn't be. They're made for you to make your own badges and things anyway. You'd also have the jumpsuit between you and the backing clasps. Actually, they should be smaller than the nuts for he bolts used above.

    My only concern is if they will hold up the weight of fiberglass armor. I plan to use enough to do the job, so I'm hoping they hold up. Should know shortly.

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    Tried out the clips I mentioned previously and I'm happy to say they work.

    Used an old throw off shoulder bell I don't plan to use for good. I wanted to see if it would work logisitically, so as a test, I used kneadable plumber's putty rather than my affixing of choice (Gorilla Glue). It held fine.

    When I get ready to do the real armor, I will fix the flat headed tack part to the armor with Gorilla Glue and let it dry overnight.

    The great plus of these clips is that they are lightweight. As with backpackers where every ounce counts, I think this would be a great bonus.

    I am using this on a static mannequin, so I'd suggest trying it out for yourself before deciding which way you want to go. If you're really rough on your armor, you might not want to go this route.

    Anyway, you can get these clips in the jewelery section of your local Craft's 2000 or other craft store. I got about three packs for a few bucks. This particturlar brand was Darice Jewelry Designer, and they are brass tie tacks w/clutch (nickle plated).

    Here are some pics so you get a better idea of how this works . . .





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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    i dont think he actually drilled holes the armor just his copies the real set the bolts are just glued

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Amon View Post
    good job Daz !
    i search how i fix my bobamaker armor on my flak jacket now i see the answer ! but can i fix the bolt without maked a hole ?

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    Where would a person in Australia find these types of eyelets... the only ones we have over here in the 'fabric specialty stores' I can guarantee will slice straight through the Tackle Twill on the outside of my vest... :S

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    I was wondering how the chest armor fitted on ans I don't like using Velcro to much
    it has a nasty habit of coming off,
    Cheers for that Info Daz Its very helpful to know

    Question : what are the chances of you selling a flak jacket already marked up so some one can add Armor

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Slave I View Post
    Tried out the clips I mentioned previously and I'm




    The butterfly clutches I think will work fine for a little while, but they wear out. I got tired of getting stuck by the pins in my uniform when they fall off.. I found these and I'm still using the same ones 2 years later w/ no signs of them wearing out. They are kind of expensive, but a much better alternative to the brass clutches.



    http://www.galls.com/style.html?asso...og&style=NT002

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    JB-Weld a 2" to 3" metal disk to the nut. this way it's comfortable and the armor rest a half inch from your chest? my 3 centavos

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    Oh snap, thanks for the tutorial! Granted, gotta redo the paint on Jodo, but this is how I've been wanting to attach the armor all along, and now you're made it a nice step-by-step process! Thanks for the instructional!

    Bump so newer folks like me don't miss this!

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    Very cool tutorial!

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    cool and detail tutorial! Great job..

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    great tutorial!

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    great tutorial +1

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    Re: Attaching Armour : Tutorial

    Newbie here... I have been wondering how the armour was attaced and so far this has been the best Idea. I was planning to use rivits in a similar manner. Thanks!!!

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    These are a great idea. Where did you find them?

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