Who's Helmet?

my question is who's helmet is better? the helmets made by Rubies or by Don Post?

Look for a MSH 2 or a Marrow_Sun bucket …

Don Post is better and more exspensive than Rubies.

where do i find a marrow sun bucket?

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cal196 wrote:
Don Post is better and more exspensive than Rubies.

Actually, the weird part is that this isn't always true. I've seen a DP95 go for as little as $25 US on Ebay while seeing a still in the box Rubies Jango go for $120 US. As I've always said, Ebay is a crazy place.

T-Visor wrote:
Look for a MSH 2 or a Marrow_Sun bucket …

Chances of finding an MSH 2 are very slim. I've been asking for ages, no joy, so I am building my own MSH bucket.

tell me what you think, it'll get repainted to my custom design but i like it.



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Jodo_Kast wrote:

cal196 wrote:
Don Post is better and more exspensive than Rubies.

Actually, the weird part is that this isn't always true. I've seen a DP95 go for as little as $25 US on Ebay while seeing a still in the box Rubies Jango go for $120 US. As I've always said, Ebay is a crazy place.

Yeah I got a '95 for $27 just a week after getting a rubies for $60. I was happy.. yet strangely annoyed.

bobamaker wrote:

Chances of finding an MSH 2 are very slim. I've been asking for ages, no joy, so I am building my own MSH bucket.

You are better off with a Marrow_Sun or Mystery Helmet anyway.

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Actually, the weird part is that this isn't always true. I've seen a DP95 go for as little as $25 US on Ebay while seeing a still in the box Rubies Jango go for $120 US. As I've always said, Ebay is a crazy place.

Ya but I didnt wanted to get his hopes up.

Luther-X wrote:
tell me what you think, it'll get repainted to my custom design but i like it.

That's a DP Deluxe recast. The first step to a better looking bucket.

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if that one doesn't work out what do you think aboot this?

http://shop.starwars.com/Product/Pro...?ProductID=136

tylerdurden wrote:

You are better off with a Marrow_Sun or Mystery Helmet anyway.

Why do you say that? IIRC when the MSH2 came out it was the end-all, be-all of helmets. I believe there was even a comparison thread that looked at the top three helmets.

Let me see if I can find it ... here it is:
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=7769&forum=2

Not trying to argue with you tyler, just want your opinion.
Gator

No prob at all!

I recommend the Marrow_Sun or Mystery helmet because it has the closest lineage to the screen-used helmets.

The size, shape, and features all show a helmet that was once cast from a screen-used helmet, but that has been cleaned up, modified, and is a couple generations down from the orignal.

The dent on a Marrow_Sun or Mystery helmet is pretty much identical to the real dent; it's also the same dent as on the DP deluxe, but the DP deluxe is modified more severely than the Marrow_Sun and Mystery to really qualify for the comparison. The same cannot be said for the MSH2 dent, which was sculpted.

One can apply the example above to just about any part on the Marrow_Sun/ Mystery against the corresponding part on the MSH2- the majority of the MSH2 is a custom sculpt, whereas the Marrow_Sun/ Mystery helmet is a derivative of a real helmet.

Thanks. I do have a couple more questions for clarification, while I still have this thread highjacked . Sorry Luther-X.

Are the Marrow_Sun and Mystery helmets one and the same? If so, how can the lay-person identify the real deal, and not a recast? If not, what are the differences between the two?

Gator

Luther-X wrote:
if that one doesn't work out what do you think aboot this?

http://shop.starwars.com/Product/Pro...?ProductID=136

It's a Rubies. Unless you have a child-sized head, you should look for something a bit larger.

I believe the true Mystery Helmet(Sgt. Fang) was an all resin cast where the Marrow_Sun is a fiberglass helmet. As for a comparison of the dimensions of the two helmets, I'm not sure.

I dont know but your helmet is proof you can make a 95 DP look totaly awesome.

Yes, the Marrow_Sun and Mystery Helmet are essentially the same helmet, and as said above, the Mystery Helmet was produced in resin and the Marrow_Sun in fiberglass. Though, I find the Marrow_Sun helmet to be slightly sharper and in better shape the Mystery Helmet.

Unfortunately, there is really no clear indicator of a recast helmet. There is a fairly good chance that outside of a helmet produced by either Sarge or Marrow_Sun the helmet could be a recast, because they are the only two I am aware of that have found the original Mystery style helmets. However, some general tells of recasting include a suspiciously cheap price, soft features/ poor sharpness, size difference, and unusual warpage.

Several recasted M_S buckets have shown up on ebay lately. And surprisingly, they're selling for quite a bit.

AFFoD & tylerdurden,
Thanks for the clarification. One final question - Are either the Marrow_Sun or the MSH2 still being produced by the original makers?

C*E*N*O*B*Y*T*E,
I noticed that ebay trend also. As others have stated, eBay is a crazy place.

Gator

I thought ALL versions of the mystery helmet were recasts. The origional wasn't fanmade, so how is it any different compared to a recast of a DP? It seems those ebay sellers are doing nothing that others haven't done here. Is there a difference?

Great question, JD. Yes, the current "Mystery style" helmets are both recasts off a finished helmet that were scuplted/cast/finished by someone else. That situation does put the recasting issue of "Mystery style" helmets on similar ground with the DP deluxe. HOWEVER, there is a caveat.

The two current producers of "Mystery style" helmets have had to do some clean-up and work to make the helmet a sellable item. So each one is unique and has a known producer, and as such, TDH will not condone recasting of either producers helmet.

How does one tell if they have one of these two producers helmets? Are there distinguishing characteristics that give them away before they are trimmed and primed (so to speak) for painting?

I bought a fiberglass helmet that was completely unfinished a month or so ago. It arrived in really rough shape- cracked, but fixable with some work. 'Looked like the delivery guy sat on the box. The seller said he had them for a fan movie that was never made a couple of years ago. He even shipped me another one to replace the damaged one at no cost to me. -Super nice guy, but i'm curious about the helmet's origin.

so back to my origional topic... the don post helmet is one piece ar two? the rubies is a two piece helmet. if the don post is one that makes it better already.

The Don Post helmets are all one piece. From what I have seen, even though the DP's need some work to correct the flare, the visor, paint, etc., they are all better than the Rubies helmets.

The general ratings for the Don Post helmets are, from best to worst:
1. Don Post Delux - As stated above, cast from an original movie helmet but not that accurate.
2. Don Post 95 - best paint, size, flare of the vinyl helmets.
3. Don Post 96 - decent for a vinyl helmet, needs work.
4. Don Post 97 - some are really warped and can't be fixed.

Gator

DP deluxe isnt a caste of the screen used helmet.

At some point, I believe you can trace the origin of the DP Deluxe to a real helmet. However, the helmet has been extensively modified.

does anyone one know a reliable place to get a don post helmet? i need one and i can't spend much on it. about $75 is my max!!! it can be broken whatever. let me know.

I can send you a DP95 (green interior) for that 75 bucks that's burning a whole in your pocket
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I already removed the t-visor, but have not replaced it yet.

i am willing to pay UP to $75. i do not want to. i can find one for less than that and remove the visor myself.

tylerdurden wrote:

bobamaker wrote:

Chances of finding an MSH 2 are very slim. I've been asking for ages, no joy, so I am building my own MSH bucket.

You are better off with a Marrow_Sun or Mystery Helmet anyway.

I already have a Marrow_Sun (excellent helmet) but was under the impression that the MSH2 was the helmet to have... am I wrong?

There is a fair amount of subjectivity when one is selecting their helmet. Some individuals might want a "minds-eye" version of the helmet over an accurate representation- complete with bumps, warps, and asymmetry. So in that regard, I can't tell anyone which choice is correct.

However, the Marrow_Sun/Mystery Helmet is the helmet that has the closest origin and features of a real helmet.

Gator Fett wrote:
The Don Post helmets are all one piece. From what I have seen, even though the DP's need some work to correct the flare, the visor, paint, etc., they are all better than the Rubies helmets.

The general ratings for the Don Post helmets are, from best to worst:
1. Don Post Delux - As stated above, cast from an original movie helmet but not that accurate.
2. Don Post 95 - best paint, size, flare of the vinyl helmets.
3. Don Post 96 - decent for a vinyl helmet, needs work.
4. Don Post 97 - some are really warped and can't be fixed.

Gator

4. Don Post 97 - some are really warped and can't be fixed.
Yeha I got that one in my room, little did I know it was going to get that messed up from a little sun.

OK here soon ill be looking for a helmet I think I found a painter for it but I need a helmet first. So any one know where to get a really good fiberglass helmet?






OK well then what helmet would you suggest?

Oh, your asking a loaded question here.