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    Oct 10, 2008, 4:15 PM - Visor Tint VS. Canon #1

    Hey, question for all of you ESB Fetts...I installed my green visor and in some light you can really see through it. I've checked and all the green ones come in only two different tints and I used the darker of the two...

    How acceptable would it be to use a smoke tint instead? I'm all about staying true to the film with the green visor but I don't want anyone to see my face.

    I was thinking of grabbing one of the visors from Rembrant Enterprises or looking into some other type of dark tinted visor.

    So the question is should I stay with the green or not? Thanks!
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    Oct 10, 2008, 5:25 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #2

    Personally though my own research, I believe that ESB is actually smoked, not green. I believe that green was used when the helmet broke and was repaired after ESB. I use smoked, and it's a million times better than green.
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    Oct 10, 2008, 7:06 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #3

    Weren't you able to see the color of the visor in ESB? I clearly remember when they show Fett outside of Slave 1 as their putting solo in, that as he turns his head, the bottom part of the visor shows through, and you can see right through it to the backround.

    But hey, this debate is an on going one..
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    Oct 10, 2008, 8:48 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #4

    Quote tubachris85x said: View Post
    Weren't you able to see the color of the visor in ESB? I clearly remember when they show Fett outside of Slave 1 as their putting solo in, that as he turns his head, the bottom part of the visor shows through, and you can see right through it to the backround.

    But hey, this debate is an on going one..
    You speak of the scene when loading Han into SLAVE I and hes on the loading dock overlooking it. If you freeze frame it right you can see that the visor is green with the light showing through in the backround revealing it
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    Oct 10, 2008, 9:04 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #5

    Quote Tim Allen said: View Post
    You speak of the scene when loading Han into SLAVE I and hes on the loading dock overlooking it. If you freeze frame it right you can see that the visor is green with the light showing through in the backround revealing it
    Not to fan any flames here, but I disagree. Looking at that very freeze frame, I would say the visor definitely looks smoke-tinted. Here's a link to the still in the TDH Reference Library.

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    Oct 10, 2008, 9:25 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #6

    Interesting, ive been out of the fett game for a while but I remember seeing a freeze framed picture of him looking the opposite way (over his right shoulder) and seeing a green tint through the backlighting of the visor. Obviously this disproves it but I wonder if their was a publicity shot of that scene were a different helmet was used? Either that or my memory is just really really ****** haha.
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    Oct 10, 2008, 9:43 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #7

    Quote Tim Allen said: View Post
    Interesting, ive been out of the fett game for a while but I remember seeing a freeze framed picture of him looking the opposite way (over his right shoulder) and seeing a green tint through the backlighting of the visor. Obviously this disproves it but I wonder if their was a publicity shot of that scene were a different helmet was used? Either that or my memory is just really really ****** haha.
    No, its not your memory. I know what still you're thinking of, but I can't seem to find it. I'm browsing through some of the ROTJ screencaps, but it actually looks smoke-tinted in these pics too. . .
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    Oct 11, 2008, 1:34 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #8

    Quote Murphoid said: View Post
    Not to fan any flames here, but I disagree. Looking at that very freeze frame, I would say the visor definitely looks smoke-tinted. Here's a link to the still in the TDH Reference Library.

    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/reference/hd_esb/pages/ESB_HD_080.htm
    I brought that up a long time ago, but was shot down by the higher-ups. Like I said, I think it's smoked, the only time we see it's green is after the helmet was repaired on the corner of the visor.
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    Oct 11, 2008, 8:09 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #9

    In all the screen caps in ESB it definitely looks green to me. I've tried a polypropelene malable green visor and that's what see through. I actually doubled up and two ply'd the visor and that helps a ton! It's almost perfect.

    The other option from my local vendor is to use a molded green #3 visor which means it' way more stiff and more difficult to work with. I'll keep trying. I rather use what's canon but I don't want anyone seeing my face through the visor more so...
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    Oct 12, 2008, 8:53 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #10

    Quote escho34 said: View Post
    In all the screen caps in ESB it definitely looks green to me. I've tried a polypropelene malable green visor and that's what see through. I actually doubled up and two ply'd the visor and that helps a ton! It's almost perfect.

    The other option from my local vendor is to use a molded green #3 visor which means it' way more stiff and more difficult to work with. I'll keep trying. I rather use what's canon but I don't want anyone seeing my face through the visor more so...

    Could you post a screen cap from ESB where the visor looks green? In all the ones I've looked at, its definitely smoke-tinted.
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    Oct 12, 2008, 1:23 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #11

    Just a quick question, out of all the times I see/read about people meeting Jeremy in person, has anyone ever bothered to ask him? I figure he'd know, since, well he was wearing the darn thing
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    Oct 12, 2008, 1:34 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #12

    one thing that webchief and i stumbled across is that "green" and "smoked" aren't absolutes. we had been debating this issue, then he brought over one of his "green" visors, to compare to my green visor.

    mine was GREEEEEEEEEEN!!!!! but his was a darker, greyer green. so while i was 100% sure that the visor wasn't green based on the visor i had, the green visor he had was close enough to smoked that i could see it looking either way depending on the lighting.
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    Oct 12, 2008, 1:39 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #13

    looks smoked IMO. and i perfer seeing everything just alittle darker and not a shade of green when i wear my helmet
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    Oct 12, 2008, 10:35 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #14

    Quote tubachris85x said: View Post
    Just a quick question, out of all the times I see/read about people meeting Jeremy in person, has anyone ever bothered to ask him? I figure he'd know, since, well he was wearing the darn thing
    We could, but Jeremy would also tell you that the armour was metal.
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    Oct 12, 2008, 10:52 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #15

    Quote stormtrooperguy said: View Post
    one thing that webchief and i stumbled across is that "green" and "smoked" aren't absolutes. we had been debating this issue, then he brought over one of his "green" visors, to compare to my green visor.

    mine was GREEEEEEEEEEN!!!!! but his was a darker, greyer green. so while i was 100% sure that the visor wasn't green based on the visor i had, the green visor he had was close enough to smoked that i could see it looking either way depending on the lighting.



    This actually makes a lot of sense.
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    Oct 12, 2008, 10:57 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #16

    Quote GCNgamer128 said: View Post
    We could, but Jeremy would also tell you that the armour was metal.
    I know it sounds stupid to just ask him, but knowing what materials the costume was made out of versus color identification is different. I think it would be easier to tell what shade of color he was viewing the world out of while wearing it then identifying armor material.
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    Oct 13, 2008, 2:52 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #17

    Just a pic.
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    Oct 13, 2008, 3:06 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #18

    If theirs anything that JB would remember from wearing the suit, I think it would be the color of the visor since he was looking through it the entire time he was on set. Next time someone runs into him someone should ask.
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    Oct 13, 2008, 8:19 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #19

    I'm glad you posted that pic, korn. I thought the visor was smoked rather than green, but the thing with that 'Slave 1 shot' is that it was filmed against blue-screen, so even if it was green, it may not necessarily show up.

    As for the other shots where it appears green, are we sure that the colours are not reflections from his armour or lights or something? I'm pretty sure there was a thread devoted to this a while back, but I can't remember what the outcome was...

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    Oct 13, 2008, 8:32 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #20

    If I knew about this thread I would have asked him this weekend...I do know he is still in my city till tomorrow.
    But I won't be a nutty SW fan and track him down...lol

    Quote Tim Allen said: View Post
    If theirs anything that JB would remember from wearing the suit, I think it would be the color of the visor since he was looking through it the entire time he was on set. Next time someone runs into him someone should ask.
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    Oct 13, 2008, 8:51 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #21

    I could have sworn there was a list that had every found part a few months back where the visor was listed as grey perspex or some such.
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    Oct 13, 2008, 9:18 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #22

    Check out this link, and you will see that there is actually a grey visor on the "shopping" list.
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    Oct 13, 2008, 10:09 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #23

    Well, here's my $.02.... The Harris "shopping list" says something like "smoked perspex visor" Perspex being an English word for Lucite/plexiglass implies to me that it was cut from sheet plastic, rather than using a welder's shield or something that we replicators sometimes do. The "smoked" part is hard to discern, it could just be referring to "tinted" and not the color at all. That ESB cap, as Oddball noted was matted on a blue screen, so what you're seeing "through" the visor is bad clipping in all honesty. It's generally considered that the MoM helmet is the "Hero" ESB one, and that one has a green tinted visor, however two fators that call that into question are: 1.) The Supertrooper suits all started white, and the Stormtrooper lenses are definitely not green. So safe to assume the Supertrooper visor was not green. 2.) If the original was fixed and possibly replaced, all bets are off for the MoM helmet being proof of anything. So it basically comes down to what you like best. Mine is green, btw.
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    Oct 13, 2008, 10:17 AM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #24

    ummm...
    The Sandtroopers were the first "Troopers" to be filmed
    And their lenses are definitely geen
    so...
    that logic won't hold up


    Oh, and my ROTJ is 2 layers of dark green (not correct, I know)
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    Oct 13, 2008, 12:26 PM - Re: Visor Tint VS. Canon #25

    Erm... do you mean that the Sandtroopers looking for the droids were the first filmed chronogically? becuase the first trooper on screen were plain old stormtroopers when they blast aboard Leia's blockade runner. As Far as I know (and I could be wrong) the sandtroopers were the same suits as regular stormtroopers (beside the packs/shoulder plates, etc), and were built at the same time, so they should have the black lenses that the regular trooper have. Anyone got a screenie of them?

    I was referring to the "Supertrooper" White Boba Fett suits by the way

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