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    Re: Too scared to start

    "I love it when a plan comes together!"

    That looks awesome! So come on, time to crack on with the molding!

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    The mould looks absolutely great!!! I do have to ask if you would be willing to make me a copy if you get the fiberglass to work? You've seen my bucket ala carte... I really need a decent one to work on.

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    chibi fett said: View Post
    The mould looks absolutely great!!! I do have to ask if you would be willing to make me a copy if you get the fiberglass to work? You've seen my bucket ala carte... I really need a decent one to work on.

    i don't see it being a problem. I have a few ppl on order already (mostly friends and family etc) but yer no problem. Let me pull a couple out first to see what happens and if they are any good then i will do you one. I am looking for about 50 ($85) for a raw cast (about the same cost as a Rubies, although hopefully 500% better). This will be just to cover the cost of the fibreglass etc and the time spent in the shed away from the wife

    anyways give me a few weeks and i will see what i can do. PS without be unkind i wouldn't spend to much time on the Ala Carte bucket, i think you are on a lost cause there (sorry mate).

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    So where do i sign up?!......

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    mandalore697 said: View Post
    So where do i sign up?!......
    I am sure i can sort one out each for you and your girlfriend

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    awesome I might be interested too

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    Ronin677 said: View Post
    I am sure i can sort one out each for you and your girlfriend

    She does look pretty good wearing a bucket, a lot quieter too!

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    Ronin677 said: View Post
    i don't see it being a problem. I have a few ppl on order already (mostly friends and family etc) but yer no problem. Let me pull a couple out first to see what happens and if they are any good then i will do you one. I am looking for about 50 ($85) for a raw cast (about the same cost as a Rubies, although hopefully 500% better). This will be just to cover the cost of the fibreglass etc and the time spent in the shed away from the wife

    anyways give me a few weeks and i will see what i can do. PS without be unkind i wouldn't spend to much time on the Ala Carte bucket, i think you are on a lost cause there (sorry mate).
    Thanks! I'll be looking forward for it! The price does seem reasonable, if even a little cheap for a bucket of that accuracy. And yeah, it is a lost cause on the ala carte... But, I need a base to try the paints that are available around here... Afterwards, it will be going to someone else..

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    mandalore697 said: View Post
    She does look pretty good wearing a bucket, a lot quieter too!
    i'll tell her that next time i see her

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    awesome mold. looks like it will be a good helmet. great job!!

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    Ronin, did you apply burlap to your plaster? if not you may and to add more plaster, smooth it out and add that plaster stripping in both directions, it will make it much stronger. Aside from that it looks great!

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    zombierepellent said: View Post
    Ronin, did you apply burlap to your plaster? if not you may and to add more plaster, smooth it out and add that plaster stripping in both directions, it will make it much stronger. Aside from that it looks great!
    good idea. i was thinking along similar lines and buying some of the pre-soaked bandages, just place them in water and away you go.

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    Looking good! I hope to scratch build one in the future...

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    GCNgamer128 said: View Post
    Looking good! I hope to scratch build one in the future...
    i am surprised you haven't already started one judging by the stuff you have already made i would imagine it would be amazing.

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    Ronin677 said: View Post
    good idea. i was thinking along similar lines and buying some of the pre-soaked bandages, just place them in water and away you go.

    Exactly, lay them in one direction and then go back and lay them in the other, and at a hey point where the plaster isn't hard but not soft wet your hands and smooth it all out, this will get rid of any possible pressure/high stress points in your jacket.

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    Well i have modded my original bucket (again ) and am now happy with the results. I am going to mould it again next month and start to pull the fibreglass ones in March hopefully.

    Let me know what you guys think of the new shape (you can see the extension lines on the bucket)

    the mandibles are slightly too wide (by about 2-3mm) but i am happy with it for version 1
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    Looks pretty damn nifty to me. I'm about to mold mine up....One thing I'd reccommend is get a decent set of scales as my first molds were pretty poor and one didn't work at all. These a re a few tips Neil Gorton of Millenium FX gave me

    "try and get ones that do between 2 and 5grams minimum increments. 2gm being preferable. Imagine if you want to weigh a 100gm of silicone. The catalyst at 10% will be 10gms but if you have scales that only go in 5gm increments you could weigh out up to 14gms and still it will read as 10gms.

    At least with a 2gram increment you can get within 1gram of being accurate on small volumes."

    He also said that for the first two thin coats of silicone you shoud use 11% catalyst instead of 10 and add a few drops of the accelarator. I made the mistake of throwing in a ton of catalyst as I wanted it to cure NOW but all that did was make the rubber weak that when I demolded the piece the rubber tore as too much cat weakens it a lot.

    when you want to build thickness you can use cheap mutton cloth instead of bunging in a load of thixo, simply dip it in the silicone and drape if over the surface like you would if you used plaster bandages as a jacket mold.. This way you can get a mold of upto 4mm thickness from a load of silicone that cost only 20 quid or so, then you can do a fibreglass or plaster jacket and get tens of pulls out of it.

    Anyways enough rambling......I think you're onto a winner with this one mate. Nice work.

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    Excellent sculpt! I think you've got the overall feel of the helmet spot on. If i could mention just one thing though, is the R/H ear cap top slightly too long? This is the first thing that jumped out at me...

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    Great job mate! really came out nice

    is this the start of the 'RoninBucket'?......8)


    -Wulfie

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    How did I ever miss this thread?

    That is awesome! I love seeing bucket mold progress threads. I can totally emphathize with you though on the fear of ruining a scratchbuild when making the mold for it. I am going to have to do this next month when I start making the Dark Trooper runs


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    where do you get the silicone and the hardening agent

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    Yeh I've just started with this kind of thing, and even though I know I'm jumping the gun (gotta build the bucket first) where do you get your supplies from? Somewhere in Norwich or online?

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    You can't go wrong than try Mouldlife here in the UK. They supply a good number of professional FX houses and came to me on the recommendation of someone in the biz they are really good to deal with too and very helpful. Try Tinsil 70-25 seems a good all round molding rubber to me.

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    Thanks for the quick response Maverick, I'm looking at their website as I type this .

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    Hi guys

    thanks for the kind comments on this one. I think in response to earlier comments, that r/h ear cap might be slightly too long but not by much (it fits the two differently supplied ear caps that i have bought so shouldn't be a problem).

    the silicone i have been using was purchesed in the UK from a company in Norwich called Marplas. They are really friendly and will offer shed loads of help and advise.

    i should be recasting in about two weeks time and then pulling the first FG bucket around March. I was thinking around 60 ($100) per bucket, primed and trimmed (approx $120 with the visor fitted). I will let you all know the final price when i pull the first bucket.

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