Foxbatkllr
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How would that be unfair? I'd expect the fanmade helmets to actually look better than this thing...
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**TDH Exclusive** Real Boba Fett helmet casting
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How would that be unfair? I'd expect the fanmade helmets to actually look better than this thing...
phantomfett
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Awesome catch Lee! You are a lucky man!
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fxdude
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Guys don't hassle Lee too much.. he is honoring my wishes, something to be proud of these days...
Ken
Ken
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OZFettmaker
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Good god.........it looks just like the original pix in my Dad's files..............He worked on the original..........I know of only 2 others in the world.LFL has one,you have one,and one is somewhere in australia...........good score...well done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BobaFettish
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It is neither an ESB or RotJ, but believed to be a pre-production (likely pre-pro 2). Lee, correct me if I am wrong.
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Yautja
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Lee, where in Florida are you located? I'm near Clearwater. Port Richey to be exact.
Were you at Megacon this year? I was with 501st table,i was hanging with Skaught and Dean.
Sorry i just noticed you were in Florida. I sure would like to see this new Fett piece in person;-)
Michael
Were you at Megacon this year? I was with 501st table,i was hanging with Skaught and Dean.
Sorry i just noticed you were in Florida. I sure would like to see this new Fett piece in person;-)
Michael
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Rogue Studios
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Yep was at Megacon I only went for a day mostly to hook up with some friends as pre-dragoncon type thing we do every year I spent most of my time drooling on Hellboy props. I live near Orlando.
Lee
Lee
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Rogue Studios
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Hey, after groping over three different helmets with a caliper here's the answer to what I have been getting asked the most I certainly hope this helps everyone out and this is not to endorse or expell anyones product this is just a plain and simple disclosure of facts. I'm really happy that folks have been so positive to me about this whole thing I thought I was going to be stoned for being an information hoarding infidel 
. Well here goes.
First off none of the helmets available are 100% accurate they ALL have their imperfections but from the brow down the Mystery helmet is damn close so damn close SOME measurements are exact. Please do not accept the MH as being an exact casting there are some TELLS on it that have been adjusted or fixed to change the asymmetry also the helmet height is off by a few cm's and is very different from the casting also the dent is close but a tad smaller(millimeters)also the dome shape like many others is the biggest problem it's not very accurate but adequate and overall it is a bit more "Squat" than the orig. If the MH was cast in fiberglass it would be a great helmet but the resin casting has a lot to be desired and is very flimsy and not not a good alternative to fiberglass.
I would say one portion of the mystery of this helmet(the MH) is solved it was not a 100% casting of an original it appears to be a rework of some sort possibly for DP studios.
Lee
. Well here goes.First off none of the helmets available are 100% accurate they ALL have their imperfections but from the brow down the Mystery helmet is damn close so damn close SOME measurements are exact. Please do not accept the MH as being an exact casting there are some TELLS on it that have been adjusted or fixed to change the asymmetry also the helmet height is off by a few cm's and is very different from the casting also the dent is close but a tad smaller(millimeters)also the dome shape like many others is the biggest problem it's not very accurate but adequate and overall it is a bit more "Squat" than the orig. If the MH was cast in fiberglass it would be a great helmet but the resin casting has a lot to be desired and is very flimsy and not not a good alternative to fiberglass.
I would say one portion of the mystery of this helmet(the MH) is solved it was not a 100% casting of an original it appears to be a rework of some sort possibly for DP studios.
Lee
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Bobo
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Well thats some good news!
Now, you're comparing this cast to the pre-pro and the ROTJ mom exhibit right? Does it compare the same to the ESB version of the bucket? I'd really like to know how close this thing is to the ESB...if it is at all?! Maybe you could do a comp pic?
I guess you're still not going to post comparisons of this vs. the MH or MSH huh?
Thanks Lee!
Now, you're comparing this cast to the pre-pro and the ROTJ mom exhibit right? Does it compare the same to the ESB version of the bucket? I'd really like to know how close this thing is to the ESB...if it is at all?! Maybe you could do a comp pic?
I guess you're still not going to post comparisons of this vs. the MH or MSH huh?
Thanks Lee!
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Rogue Studios
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Ok the following you are about to read would be considered heresy on any Fett collectors list but here goes.
Except for a few construction differences the ROTJ, ESB, Prepro are all appear to be the same exact helmet casting I think what makes the ESB look flared out more is the correction they made to straighten out the visor which pushed the upward corner of the mandible in and the bottom of it outward on that one side. Many of these helmets are treated like crap and are exposed to all kinds of abuse which can alter the shape.
Take it for what you want but from what I have determined they were all from the same mold and all of the helmets we have seen except for maybe the stunt versions were delivered and built at the same time. I am going to get some heat for this but that is what I believe and if you disagree that is ok too since I could definitely be wrong on this claim.
This Helmet has similarities to all (ESB,ROTJ,Prepro) helmets I have been able to compare it to and based on what I have here I don't buy too much into the ESB being that significantly different from any of the others.
Lee
Except for a few construction differences the ROTJ, ESB, Prepro are all appear to be the same exact helmet casting I think what makes the ESB look flared out more is the correction they made to straighten out the visor which pushed the upward corner of the mandible in and the bottom of it outward on that one side. Many of these helmets are treated like crap and are exposed to all kinds of abuse which can alter the shape.
Take it for what you want but from what I have determined they were all from the same mold and all of the helmets we have seen except for maybe the stunt versions were delivered and built at the same time. I am going to get some heat for this but that is what I believe and if you disagree that is ok too since I could definitely be wrong on this claim.
This Helmet has similarities to all (ESB,ROTJ,Prepro) helmets I have been able to compare it to and based on what I have here I don't buy too much into the ESB being that significantly different from any of the others.
Lee
Tyler Durden
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I'm not afraid to admit that when I started research into the Boba Fett hobby I believed there were significant differences between the various "real" helmets. However after studying the helmets carefully for several years, I have to agree with RS's assement of the film helmets; they are not as different as our mind has made them out to be.
I believe the majority of the differences we see on film helmets are due to trimming, visor installation, added physical damage, and possibly slight warpage out of the molds, like mandible warp we see on the Jedi,- these are all factors that happen AFTER the helmet has been cast.
I believe the majority of the differences we see on film helmets are due to trimming, visor installation, added physical damage, and possibly slight warpage out of the molds, like mandible warp we see on the Jedi,- these are all factors that happen AFTER the helmet has been cast.
Fettish Fiend
Hunter
I am sooooo glad you came out & said that!!!! I always kinda wondered when I heard people say the "ESB has way more flare to it" and that it must be a different helmet altogether. I have seen pics of the ESB helmet where it looks no wider than the ROTJ helmet. But I have seen pics that MAKE the helmet APPEAR to be wider which has more to do with compression of the pic or stills as opposed to a different helmet. Another thing might have to do with the weight or built of the actor wearing the helmet & costume. I always thought Jeremy B has a pretty long neck, which raises the helmet higher up. The higher up the helmet from the shoulders, the wider it appears. This can be seen in the "banquet room" scene with Vader & Boba in ESB. Another good example of this can be scene in the SW Chronicals book in the series of pics of the pre pro suit (I think it's version 2 PP). The first pic (the long one) the helmet looks to be pretty wide & the helmet is off the shoulders. On the next page you see pics from the same shoot, but one pic in particular (the one were the RF is in the down position) the helmet looks closer to the shoulders & does not seem as "flared". I'll try to get some pics up for comparison.
Just my 2 cents,
Art
Just my 2 cents,
Art
bigkidbiggertoys
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Let's not forget camera lenses & focal lenses can alter what we see on film as well. I'm no expert on this but I remember seeing a Speilberg interview from Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade where he was talking about the way the boat scene was filmed to make it look as if the actors were closer to the spinning boat prop that eats up their boat than they actually were.
Maybe the camera just made Jeremy LOOK 10lbs heavier?
Maybe the camera just made Jeremy LOOK 10lbs heavier?
Lynn TXP 0369
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bigkidbiggertoys wrote:
Maybe the camera just made Jeremy LOOK 10lbs heavier?
Don't they say the camera always adds 10lbs on to a person?
Lynn
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Rogue Studios
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Trust me I got the camera focal length down I have been preaching it from the start and that is exactly why folks shouldn't fall for the flare thing.
Lee
Lee
TBone
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RS - You've just gotta pull at least one helmet from this thing and bring it to DCon along with the mold. I think lots of people here would love to see what the actual helmet would REALLY look like.
You don't have to do any comparisions with the other equally great, fan-created helmets out there, but just so we could see what an original would have been like.
You don't have to do any comparisions with the other equally great, fan-created helmets out there, but just so we could see what an original would have been like.
