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  1. Madmartigan's Avatar
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    Nov 23, 2009, 7:22 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #51

    I would think if the gouge were there in the second picture, based on the angle you would see a slight indent right at the crest of the dome on the upper right side of the photo. Since you can only see the beginning of the mark, but not any sign of the gouge, I'd think it wasn't on the eyes version....

    C

    p.s. I also don't see the kill stripes on the "eyes" version. Given that the gold part of the gouge damage and the kill stripes looks to be a similar color, and that the gold of the gouge lays over a bit of silver, I'd guess it could be they added the gold part of the gouge, the physical damage, and the kill stripes after they went from eyes to ears.
    Last edited by Madmartigan; Nov 24, 2009 at 6:50 AM.
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    Nov 24, 2009, 4:53 AM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #52

    I just looked at this reference picture where both versions are side by side:

    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/galle...2_itemId=16269

    And I would say, the silver based chipped off color is the same. Now, if there is the same color damage, whatīs the possibility to get hit at the exact place twice?
    the silver damage is thin and long and you can see that on both pictures. And I say this damage is one and the same! Maybe a hit with a vibro axe or any other sharp blade, itīs definately no blaster-damage.
    The thin and long silver scratch results from the hit with a blade.

    How big is the chance to get hit there twice? Exactly at the same position?

    On the left picture you can hardly see the scratch, but if you look from one pic to the other you can see that the position is exactly the same.

    I say the blade-damage with itīs chipped off color has been on both helmets.

    A blade damage also not always has to have a gouge. It depends on the viewing angle.
  3. Nov 24, 2009, 9:31 AM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #53

    I think its there on both helmets, i can just make out the front edge and back of the silver damage around the 'scratch' on the second image...
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    Nov 24, 2009, 11:46 AM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #54

    Wow, not a lot of reference material. I agree with others that it looks like the gouge was there on the eyes version. It looks to me like the ears were done by either a) applying a sticker and cutting away parts of it to reveal existing damage, or b) some kind of frisket stencil was applied, and was cut out/around existing damage while on the helmet, and that one chunk of paint peeled up to reveal silver with the cuts of the pattern. Just wild speculation, but it looks like that whole section was already there.

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    Nov 24, 2009, 1:58 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #55

    Loving this paint up bruv.... one of my fave looks! :thumbup
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    Nov 24, 2009, 4:07 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #56

    The silver scratch detail looks to be on both, but the cut and gold markings to cover up the grinding work was added later on the ears version. I would just paint the silver scratch and not worry about the cut.

    Definitely the same helmet.
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    Nov 24, 2009, 4:53 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #57

    Oh, no question that's it the same bucket, and on a couple of folks' photo analysis, it seems certain that area is present on both the Eyes and Ears versions.
    That's how I plan to move forward with this anyway.

    Thanks for all the thoughts!
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    Nov 24, 2009, 7:23 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #58

    UPDATE: Nov 24th

    OK, disregarding the gouge for now, I made some more progress on the opposite side of the helmet.
    Here's a long scratch just above the right eye. This was placed using 2 separate pics.



    Here is a small area on the upper portion of the dome, along with the beginnings of the "hat band" area.



    More of the area behind the right ear.



    Things will slow down significantly after this. . . the reference becomes fuzzier and more scarce.
  9. formerly slave1117a vaders right hand's Avatar
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    Nov 24, 2009, 8:23 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #59

    your work is amazing
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    Nov 25, 2009, 2:08 AM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #60

    Quote superjedi said: View Post
    Things will slow down significantly after this. . . the reference becomes fuzzier and more scarce.
    Donīt worry SJ! Your work always knows to amaze the people and so it is here again.

    Fantastic job!
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    Nov 25, 2009, 11:39 AM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #61

    SJ,
    I think the gouge is there already, it just would make more sense to have something to make damage around.

    sometimes the simple answer is the right one.

    no vibro axe answers here....
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    Nov 27, 2009, 4:22 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #62

    UPDATE: Nov 27th

    OK, made some more headway before and after a great Thanksgiving feast at my sister-in-law's house. Yum!!

    Got the mandibles done. Not much damage on the left side, but working with smaller and fuzzier reference pics, I made sure to take several measurements to get the positioning right.



    There was a better pic of the right side, and much like the ESB helmet, there was more damage to apply.
    Took a while to work through all 3 colors, but I really like the way this came out.



    Just a little bit more on the back of the dome, then I'll work the big gouge over the left eye area.
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    Nov 27, 2009, 4:29 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #63

    Dude this is nothing short of stunning! still one of my fave lids...
    Keep up the good work bro!
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    Nov 27, 2009, 5:06 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #64

    Good work Bro!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Leo
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    Nov 27, 2009, 5:27 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #65

    Man, o man, o man. This is one sick bucket.
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    Nov 28, 2009, 5:53 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #66

    Thanks all! Getting real close now.

    UPDATE: Nov 28th

    *Whew!!* All the "basic" painting is complete. I had enough time today to complete the last area on the back of the dome. There was only one shot from an extreme side angle, so no claims to accuracy as far as the shapes go. Just tried to match the pic as much as possible.



    Also had time to work out the big gouge and the damage which surrounds it. I made the gouge using a couple different shapes of jewelers files after marking its position.



    I had to extrapolate info from 2 reference pics of this area. Both pics show some curvature based on the angle of the photo, and I tried to "straighten" it to account for the nature of the pictures.



    I had to be really careful while filing out the gouge. I used some blue painters tape laid all around it in case the file slipped. I also had to try to get it to be deeper in the center and sort of "taper" to the surface as it approached either end.



    So there she sits!
    Next will be a clear coat to seal the paintwork in preparation for some pastel weathering.
    The metallic portions of the right ear and the bare metal appearance of the left ear will be done last.
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    Nov 29, 2009, 2:50 AM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #67

    Iīm in awe!!
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    Nov 29, 2009, 4:13 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #68

    This is a beautiful pice of artwork! Excellent work!
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    Nov 29, 2009, 6:56 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #69

    Thanks again! Micke, good to see you around here. I still have a ROTJ blaster painted by you. I love it!

    UPDATE: Nov 29th

    Sooooo close now. . .
    Got quite a bit done today. I began by giving the helmet a light spray of Testors Dull Coat. I've used it quite a bit on lots of projects and it's a very versatile product. It dries pretty quickly and is very durable.
    While the dull coat was drying I sprayed the RF stalk with Testors Metallizer in Stainless Steel. Once it had dried for about an hour, I buffed it with a piece of paper towel to bring up the shine a little bit. I also like these sprays. They give a good metal appearance as long as you don't clear coat over them.

    The fun began after the helmet's clear coat had dried. I ground up a few shades of "chalk" pastels on a big sheet of sandpaper. I used a couple shades of green and mixed them in with some gray, giving me some different tones. I also mixed a brownish gray. I just wanted to break up the stark color of the dome/cheeks. Here are a couple of overall shots.







    I used a large stiff bristle brush to "pounce" the pastel shades onto the helmet in random, broken patterns, mostly on the dome and lower cheeks, until the shading just became visible. I didn't really want to overdo it. Once I finished with the pastels, I gave it another quick light coat with the Testors matte spray, just enough to seal the pastels.
    Another step I take after dull coating is to go back with my size 000 brush and repaint all the silver chips. This takes a bit of time but the silver dulls down once it's clear coated and this brings back the shine and gives an illusion of depth.
    You can see above that I also put in the visor. Gives it a nice finished look.

    Here are a couple views of the back.



    The shading appears a little washed out in these pics. Once I spray the bare metal on the ears, I'll try to get some better pics.



    I also did the silver damage on the RF topper.



    Just have the ears left and then it will take its place with my other buckets.
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    Nov 29, 2009, 7:21 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #70

    Very nice man!
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    Nov 29, 2009, 7:25 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #71

    Amazed with every new batch of progress pics. If you ever decide to part w/ this bucket for any reason, I'd love to have first dibs.
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    Dec 6, 2009, 10:46 AM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #72

    Thanks again, and I don't know that I'll ever part with any of my babies!

    FINAL UPDATE: Dec 6th

    OK, I'm calling this one done.
    Got the metallic portions of the ears masked and painted. I used Testors Metalizer Stainless Steel and buffed it once it was dry.
    Not so much that it really shined, but enough to give it a good glint.
    After that, I just had to drill a small hole in the right upper ear assembly to insert a small machine screw to keep the stalk in place.
    I dremeled out a "dish" in the outer ear cap to make room for the screw head. . . and that was it!
    Here's the final batch of pics.







    Like all of DAZ's other products I've worked on, this is a very high quality kit.
    The helmet shell is sturdy without being too thick, and his doing all the prep before shipment is great!
    As I've said several times, I'm lazy.





    I mentioned at the beginning of this project that Ryan's assistance with colors was invaluable, but I just have to say thanks again!
    His willingness to communicate and share info was a huge help in bringing this helmet to life.







    This was a challenging helmet. The reference for the PP1 is much more scarce than it is for the ESB or ROTJ lids.
    I've always liked the look of this helmet, and it's cool to be able to use the pictures and make my own 3-D representation.
    It now takes its place along with the other members of my still growing Fett family tree.
    Top to bottom, left to right:
    Fettpride's FPH painted in ESB 'screen used' style.
    TerminalFettler's TF bucket painted as PP3.
    DAZ's BM painted as PP1 Eyes version.
    Skygunbro's McQuarrie 'concept' helmet, weathered.





    My aim (one day) is to have a representation of all incarnations of Fett helmets. Maybe it will happen. . . maybe it won't.
    But I really get a kick out of looking at these 2 shelves!
    Thanks for following along with the project.
    Eric
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    Dec 6, 2009, 11:04 AM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #73

    Awesome job bruv... seriously!
    Never get tired of watching your threads.... :thumbup
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    Dec 6, 2009, 11:58 AM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #74

    Jedi, do you do commissioned paint jobs. I may want you to paint my lil boys mini boba when the time comes.
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    Dec 7, 2009, 6:22 PM - Re: Superjedi's Pre-Pro 1 "Eyes" helmet #75

    Thanks, Gav!

    I do take commissions from time to time.

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