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    Jul 1, 2005, 5:20 PM - Superjedi's M_S 2 #1

    Hi all,
    I moved my "left ear" pics into this thread. . . not sure why I couldn't change the title of the other thread.
    Anyway, I've recently started painting my super sweet new M_S 2. It will be ESB, and I'll post progress pics in this thread as I go.
    Here's the left ear for starters. To paint it, I used Testors RLM Green #83, with details picked out in RLM Lichtblau, and Polly Scale Rock Island Maroon. I tried to follow reference pics as closely as I could.
    The decals are by Ely (fantastic by the way!).
    Enjoy!
    Eric
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    Jul 1, 2005, 5:29 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #2

    well that looks awesome!! can't wait to see the rest!!
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    Jul 1, 2005, 5:30 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #3

    OK, I've begun painting the helmet itself. I started on the back. . . figured I'd do the most complicated part first. I'm a glutton for punishment I guess.

    I started by mixing a beige-gray color and sprayed that on. Easy enough to begin with. Once it was dry, I followed in the footsteps of the mighty Steve the Swede and traced out the areas I wanted to leave exposed. Then I used the highly touted Winsor and Newton's masking fluid to cover these sections.

    Once the masking fluid was dry, I sprayed on a dark blue green. It started out as Testors Euro I Green (from the Rogue Studios color list), but I didn't think it was blue enough, so I added some Polly Scale BAR blue until I felt it closely matched the reference pics.
    Once that was dry, I peeled up the masking latex, and . . .

    This is where it stands right now. No weathering or anything yet of course. Just the 2 main colors on the back panels.
    Eric
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    Jul 1, 2005, 5:35 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #4

    You know the back is the most complicated...Maybe next time I'll start that first also ...Great Idea..

    SJedi, how you Lovin that Masking Fluid....Nice HUH??
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    Jul 1, 2005, 5:40 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #5

    it's looking good so far
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    Jul 1, 2005, 5:43 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #6

    Quote Spideyfett said:
    SJedi, how you Lovin that Masking Fluid....Nice HUH??
    Spidey. . . what can I say. I'm thinking about writing a love letter to Winsor/Newton. That stuff was so easy to use I couldn't believe it. And it came off like nothing.
    I'm still shaking my head at how easy it made to paint the back of the helmet.
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    Jul 1, 2005, 6:28 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #7

    sweet! Man, alot of good lookin Fett stuff being done on the boards here lately! Good work!
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    Jul 2, 2005, 4:24 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #8

    You're on the road to greatness!!

    PRESS!
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    Jul 2, 2005, 4:57 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #9

    I predict that is gonna be one fine bucket!!!! Keep those progress pics coming. Its looking awesome
    Damian
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    Jul 2, 2005, 7:04 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #10

    Hey guys,
    What is this masking fluid you are talking about? Is it liquid mask? Got a pic of the bottle ? Your helmet is looking awesome!!!!! I want in in the fun. Thanks
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    Jul 2, 2005, 7:26 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #11

    That looks great. I am having a hard time even with weak tape. The paint wants to come off where I have masked it off. When I peel the tape off it ruins my weathering effect. Is it possible to spray a coat of satin on each part of the helmet you have already done so the paint chipping effect wont come off what you have already done?
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    Jul 2, 2005, 8:30 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #12

    Masking is basically liquid rubber either use some latex you can buy at an art store or misket which was used on the originals. It's a very old method that has been used by modelers and industry professionals for decades. only problem you run into is keeping the scratches accurate and less random it's very hard to keep the paint from peeling in the wrong direction.



    Lee
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    Jul 2, 2005, 9:44 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #13

    UPDATE July 2nd:
    Whew! What a day. . . I didn't realize how much I'd gotten done till I stopped to take a good look at my progress. Figured I'd take some more pics at this stage.

    Well. . . to begin with, all the basic colors are now sprayed on. I used Testors Panzer Olivgrun for the lower cheeks and dome, Polly S Brunswick Green for the upper cheeks (brushed on with a 1/2 inch brush by the way), and Polly S Boxcar Red misted over Polly S Rock Island Maroon for the mandibles/strip around the helmet. After all the main colors were dry, I put on 2 light coats of Krylon Satin Finish. Man this stuff dries smooth.

    For detail painting on the back, I again penciled the outlines of the color breaks, and used Tamiya X-11 Chrome Silver, and when that dried, Polly S SP Lark Dark Gray for the darker areas. On the keyslot area there's some purple outlining mixed from Polly S BAR Blue and Rock Island Maroon, made to match my reference pics. Some of the smaller silver scratches are done with a silver Sharpie marker (thanks Spidey for that outstanding tip!!) I used the sharp end of my compass to make the small white scratches.

    Still have washing and some more weathering to do but here's where it is as of now.
    Eric
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    Jul 2, 2005, 11:56 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #14

    :thumbup ...wow!
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    Jul 3, 2005, 1:28 AM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #15

    Looking great so far, keep it up!
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    Jul 3, 2005, 2:03 AM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #16

    Quote superjedi said:
    Some of the smaller silver scratches are done with a silver Sharpie marker (thanks Spidey for that outstanding tip!!) I used the sharp end of my compass to make the small white scratches.

    Still have washing and some more weathering to do but here's where it is as of now.
    Eric
    No Problem...Hey we're all here to help each other right??

    I Love the way that silver looks....That's gonna look great...
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    Jul 4, 2005, 10:32 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #17

    UPDATE July 4th
    Well, I took advantage of the long weekend to put some more work into the helmet.
    I've been working on the weathering around the Boxcar Red portions of the helmet. Just been following the reference pics and putting on more gray/silver/purple parts. The right mandible is done as well. . . man, that was a killer.

    Also I wanted to do something besides the red sections, so I did the lower left cheek. I tried it first with the SP Lark Dark Gray, but as mentioned by Steve the Swede, it was too close to the Panzer Olivgrun to really show up, so I took his advice and darkened it up with some Brunswick Green. That made it contrast nicely!
    Here's some new pics. They're taken indoors in fading light, so they may look a bit different from my previous pics, taken in brighter sunlight near a window.
    Anyway, enjoy! And as always, critiques are welcome.
    Eric
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    Jul 5, 2005, 2:36 AM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #18

    Wooohoooo, looking good!
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    Jul 5, 2005, 8:54 AM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #19

    oh man, GREAT tutorial on the back. That is the ONE section of my helmet I am not very proud of, I had literally two different techniques on each side for that part and still was very unsure about my final result. I am going with what you did on my second one. Great job !!
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    Jul 5, 2005, 9:13 AM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #20

    Man... all of these "newer" guys with their kick butt painting on their buckets is making me really consider going back and repainting mine! DOH! Just when I thought I was almost out...
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    Jul 5, 2005, 11:39 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #21

    Webchief,
    See, that's what comes from being a "lurker" for a while. . . soak up some terrific info from people, and then WHAM!
    I've been building models for a loooooooong time, since I was about 8 years old. That was 30 years ago (so all you math whizzes out there can figure out how old I am now!) and I would never have attempted anything like this if I didn't have decades of practice.
    Thanks to all you long-timers who have put up some fantastic pics of your own stuff!
    Eric
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    Jul 8, 2005, 11:50 AM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #22

    UPDATE JULY 8th
    OK, the mandibles are done! I'm finished with all the "red" areas now using the same technique previously described. As well as the lower right cheek, using the darker version of the Lark gray.

    Killstripes! Man, after reading some of the frustrations people have had with these, I was a bit leery about doing these, but here's how I did it.
    I started by scaling up the template found on TK-409's website until it was the correct size, then began masking them off with some blue painters tape. I stuck the tape down on a glass table top to reduce the stickiness, and masked off all 14 stripes. I just used the tape to form simple rectangles the proper size (by scaling up the referene pics I'm using, I came up with stripes that are about 25 millimeters high.) Once the basic shapes of the stripes were taped off, I used the Winsor/Newton masking fluid once again, and painted on all the chipped/missing areas on the individual stripes. Once the fluid was dry, I double checked the edges of the blue tape, burnishing down the edges really well with the back of a paint brush, and began painting them.

    I used Polly Scale UP Armor Yellow, applied with a dense white make-up sponge. No airbrushing, spraying, or hand brushing! I saturated a section of the sponge and dabbed a bit off onto a paper towel, then dabbed the yellow onto the masked-off stripes. I didn't even worry about getting a good coat the first time, just wanted to get a yellow base on. After about 15 minutes, I repeated the sponging, getting more yellow coverage. Waited again, etc. and repeated this about 5 times, until there wasn't any more green showing through. I've used this sponging technique on many models before, and it gives a nice subtly "uneven" effect, unlike airbrushing.

    After the Armor Yellow was dry, I ground up some pastels on a piece of sandpaper. I used a generic orange, and a darker reddish orange. I took an old, stiff 1/2" brush and used that to apply the pastels. I used the lighter orange and put that over all the stripes, then used the darker shade to go over that, slowly applying more reddish orange the further back I went. All the reference I've seen seems to show the stripes gradually getting a little "redder" the closer they get to the back of the helmet. Once I was satisfied with the tone of the stripes, I carefully removed the tape, pulling most of the masking liquid off along with it. Any remaining latex I removed afterwards. Since I burnished the edges of the blue tape, there was virtually no bleed through underneath, much to my relief. There were literally only 3 tiny areas that I fixed by gently scraping the yellow away with an old X-acto blade.

    And here's the new pics!
    Eric
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  23. Spideyfett is offline Spideyfett
    Jul 8, 2005, 2:09 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #23

    WOW!!!!

    Great...Now I need to start all over....Thanks..J/K

    Great Looking Stripes...
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    Jul 8, 2005, 9:42 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #24

    nice
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    Jul 10, 2005, 7:41 PM - Re: Superjedi's M_S 2 #25

    UPDATE JULY 10th
    Man, I really get to make some progress on the weekends!
    Most of the basic painting/damage is complete.

    I finished the upper cheeks, detailing with Lark Dark Gray and silver.

    The dome is just about done as well. Scratches/damage done with the same gray and silver as used on the lower cheeks. Then the small individual scratches were done with a compass point. That was seriously time-consuming. I also added the yellowish stains using Citadel Yellow Ink, and the black scuffs located around the kill stripe area with Citadel Black Ink, applied with an insanely tiny brush. LOL.

    The next stage will be to use some black and dark gray pastels, and go over the entire helmet, adding some of that faded dirty look. Then a final overspray of Testors Dullcote.

    New pics!
    Eric
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