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    Jun 3, 2011, 4:45 PM - Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #1

    JUNE 3, 2011

    Hi all!
    Well, here I go again. I received my amazing GMH helmet this week and I will be painting it as the Pre-Pro 2 helmet.
    This will NOT be a fast progress thread (sorry to disappoint anyone who's seen some of my previous threads) as I don't have nearly as much hobby time these days.
    But I will endeavor to document everything in as much detail as possible.

    The helmet itself is just sexy. It's hard to get a read on how it really looks in photos. The proportions and shapes never come across in two dimensions as they do when you're holding the helmet in your hands.

    The casting work is, as expected, practically perfect. I got helmet #9, and there's one small "booger" on the filled-in visor section. However, this will be trimmed away once I cut out that area, so no big deal.
    The ear parts and stalk look fantastic, too. I test fitted the ears against the sides of the helmet and the mating surfaces are dead flat. No problem attaching the ears to this bucket! I'm debating whether to get Mojo's aluminum ears when he offers them. If I do, it will bring an even greater level of authenticity to the helmet.

    Anwyay, on to some pics. The first couple of shots show it as I received it, right out of the box.







    As you can see, the physical damage marks are perfectly preserved and will serve as excellent landmarks in plotting out the damage once painting begins.
    Here's a shot of my new baby with my FPH (ESB) and Terminal Fettler (PP3) helmets. This gives a good idea of the overall size and shapes of the various helmets.



    The only thing I've done to the helmet so far is give it an acetone bath. Chris recommended doing this to remove any traces of mold release.
    Here's a pre-bath shot:



    By the way, Vinny's Pizza rules!!

    After the acetone bath, I used some Palmolive dish soap and a Scotchbrite-type sponge to wash it off as well. This picture is post-acetone. Shiny!



    So that's really it for today. Next up is cutting out the keyslots and visor areas!
    Thanks for viewing,
    Eric
  2. Jun 3, 2011, 4:58 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #2

    Looking forward to this paint up Eric... Needing some inspiration at the moment so don't take too long with the progress shots...!
  3. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 3, 2011, 5:00 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #3

    At last!
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    Jun 3, 2011, 5:45 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #4

    I'm probably going to copy everything you do on this baby. I started cutting mine today but have yet to give it an acetone wash. I figured I'd do that after I get everything cut out and trimmed. Keep it coming!
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    Jun 3, 2011, 8:04 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #5

    Aaagghh!! Pressure already!!
    Well here's another quick update.

    JUNE 3, 2011

    I got the keyslots and visor areas cut out. This is the rough cut stage. I spent about 40 minutes total with my Dremel and a really small drill bit.
    I began by drilling holes close to the perimeter of all the slots and visor, then sort of dragged the drill bit sideways to connect the dots. It's actually much simpler and quicker to use a cut-off wheel, but my last wheel broke on another project a few months ago and I never bought any new ones. Oh well. . .

    Safety tip: Wear eye protection!! Dremels create a lot of dust, and if that drill bit should happen to snap while it's in use it will find the most painful place to embed itself!

    Anyway, here are the rough cuts.





    The next step will be to finish the edges with files. I have a large file which will be great for the edges of the visor opening, and a small set of jeweler's files for the keyslots and tight spots in the visor area.

    Just a side note here about this helmet's construction. I cut out one side of the visor before making my way around the horizontal portion, and I was leaning my hand with the Dremel against the cheek. I didn't even realize it, but when I checked for flex, it barely budged!
    I wouldn't recommend putting a ton of weight on it, but this puppy is pretty strong.
  6. BGHunter is offline BGHunter
    Jun 3, 2011, 8:36 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #6

    How darn nice are these things
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    Jun 3, 2011, 8:47 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #7

    Had to have an honorable mention of a single teeny weenie "booger" ?
    I had been popping that little bugger off there on the first batches and
    thought to myself, meh, Eric won't mind

    Glad to see you starting on this brother. I can't wait to see this thing
    up in lights with your paint ! For some reason helmets always seem
    to look that much better with you just having touched them, even
    before paint


    Chris
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    Jun 4, 2011, 1:23 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #8

    I'm watching closely as this baby will get an excellent paint job.
  9. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 4, 2011, 2:43 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #9

    Is this already painted? Have you finished it? Or not yet?

    What a headache to do so many holes for the visor, go and buy a cut wheel for your dremel! Well, for you next bucket...
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    Jun 4, 2011, 7:15 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #10

    Yes, KaanE, it's all finished now!! Some wonderful painting elves snuck into my house last night and completed the helmet for me.

    JUNE 4, 2011

    I got a bit of an early start this morning. A long while back I had bought a set of jeweler's files from Ace Hardware. It's a set of 8 files and it cost around $12.00.
    It's an excellent set of hobby tools. The small files can really get into some tight areas and there are different shapes (flat, square, triangular, half-round, etc.) that can be very useful depending on your project. Highly recommended!

    I lugged the helmet back out into the garage and trimmed up the key slots. Anything that requires sanding, drilling, or filing is done out in the garage. Prep creates lots of dust and I don't want that dust to fill up my house.

    Here are the trimmed key slots.



    This shot is nothing special, but the morning sunlight was streaming so warmly through the (dirty) mini blinds and cast a radiant golden glow into my hobby room. It was as if Nature herself was providing backlighting for my photography. I'm including this picture on a purely artistic basis, sharing the heavenly aura that surrounded my GMH. . . at least for a moment.

    I think I will call this shot "Casco de Oro."



    Sometime later today I'll start filing and sanding the visor area.
  11. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 4, 2011, 10:34 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #11

    I have that exact same set of files, I have had them since my first helmet (DP95), by that time you were painting your second helmet which you sold when it was finished (MH I think?).

    The "Casco de Oro" is a myth, which says it's in "El Dorado":

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    PS: If you want to keep this thread clean of ***** , just let me know and I'll delete the picture.
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    Jun 4, 2011, 10:38 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #12

    Quote KaanE said: View Post

    The "Casco de Oro" is a myth, which says it's in "El Dorado":




    PS: If you want to keep this thread clean of ***** , just let me know and I'll delete the picture.
    You can't delete the pic now

    It's beautiful
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    Jun 4, 2011, 12:31 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #13

    I agree, great picture!

    According to Mayan legend, in the year 2012, a great golden helmet would descend from the heavens and devour the Earth.
    Now we see that it's all true!! Aaaahhhhhhh!!!
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    Jun 4, 2011, 12:49 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #14

    Awesome thread, superjedi! I'm right there with you. Going to the shop to finish fileing then get some primer on. Thing is I'm still working on my armor as well. My eyes are bigger than my stomach so to speak....exciting times we're living in!
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    Jun 4, 2011, 12:50 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #15

    I like how this helmet has the screw holes for mounting the ears... as well as the scratches and gouges to help plot out the paintjob like you said.
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    Jun 4, 2011, 3:24 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #16

    Yes, it's an excellent helmet all around. The "landmark" physical damage is certainly going to help when I get to the painting stage.

    JUNE 4, 2011

    OK, all the sanding, filing, trimming, gnashing of teeth, and inhaling of dust is at an end.
    I finished filing out the visor area, then went in with my Dremel and a bullet-shaped grinding attachment to reduce the thickness of the visor "walls." This took quite a while longer than actually filing the edges smooth! The thickness has to be reduced though to bring it back to the correct thickness.
    Again, I have to say the helmet is superbly engineered. I had to hold it at all kinds of weird angles to get to the inner surfaces and barely a hint of flex through the whole process.
    It's almost as if this Fett Pride guy has done this kind of thing before!

    Here's an overall shot of the cleaned up visor area.



    This pic shows the reduced thickness around the opening. Took a while, but it should look great when I finally slap a visor in there. You can also see how those little jeweler's files help to get the small corners nice and sharp.



    Once I was all done antiquing myself with fiberglass dust (*cough!*) I washed the helmet down again with a Scotchbrite sponge and some Palmolive dish liquid to remove any remaining oils and dust. So there she sits, drying off.
    Next step: primer!
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    Jun 4, 2011, 10:34 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #17

    The thinning part is what I was doing today. It's taking a long time for me because my dremel's a bit cumbersome and it's a hard area to reach. I only have the top part of the visor to thin out right now and I have to trim out the horizontals on the key slots... it's getting there. I'll post a new thread Sunday looking for critiques and advice.
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    Jun 4, 2011, 10:57 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #18

    [QUOTE=fettpride;543984]

    This has brought back the memory of the song from that old cartoon ,
    "Some day you will find the city's of gold"
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    Jun 5, 2011, 6:34 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #19

    Opinions requested!
    In this shot of the PP2 keyslots, there are a couple of shades of gray applied in cloudy patterns.
    I'm more interested in how people view the light chips/scratches. Do you think they're silver? Or do they just go down to the white helmet surface?
    On the vertical edges of the green panels that border the key slot area, it seems that it's scraped down to the white surface. This color appears consistent with the damage inside the keyslot area.



    This is probably the area I'll start with after priming. As with most of my helmet paint jobs, I'm thinking about starting with the back areas first.
    Thanks for any thoughts.
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    Jun 5, 2011, 7:09 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #20

    Super,

    If you use the outside Left wall of the keyslot for reference, then I def thing white is the way to go!
  21. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 5, 2011, 8:01 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #21

    Take a look at the RotJ and Sandy rears because they have the same paint techniques, this will give you a better idea about if it's white or silver.
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    Jun 5, 2011, 8:36 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #22

    Hmm, I looked at some ROTJ pics and those areas do appear to be physically scratched down to the white surface.
    I'll check some more pics, but I'm leaning toward white for now.
  23. Spideyfett is offline Spideyfett
    Jun 5, 2011, 8:47 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #23

    First post it sometime for me... this should be good...good luck SJ.. cant wait.
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    Jun 5, 2011, 8:49 AM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #24

    It seems silver to me. I hate when people use flash on photos. I see what you mean about looking white because it matches the machete marks which are definitely white. It could be white, but I suspect silver heavily affected by the flash at close distance. Look at this photo... it doesn't look any whiter than any other areas.
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    Jun 5, 2011, 12:05 PM - Re: Superjedi's GMH--Pre-Pro 2 #25

    Hi, Alex. This will be some new territory for me, combining the layering with some topical damage. *Gulp!* Should be fun though.

    CSK, yes I know what you mean about flash photos. It's frustrating because there isn't nearly as much documentation on this bucket as there are on the screen used helmets. But like I said, I'm still looking at photos and trying to determine the best way to go.

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