SUPER TROOPER WIP!

The arrows are on the same sides as ROTJ bud

Originally Posted by Fett 4 Real

The arrows are on the same sides as ROTJ bud

I think he means "mirror" in the sense of 'copy' like the sense of 'mirrored' hard drive is not actually a reversed image or enantiomer of the original byte order.

Hey guys- : ), yes I meant mirrored as in "matches"..mainly referring to the colors (red and blue). I thought it was a nice suttle touch. Although there seems to be a couple different versions in the gallery, I really liked the image I posted and will use this and one other as a reference. Correct me if im wrong but the RF seems to be the same as ESB?
Thanks guys
B

B - LOL!!! You are going to have to build a room just for your HELMETS!!! Glad to see you back on; missed ya for a bit. Loike your other work, I know this will turn out AWESOME and I'm marking it so I can check on your progress. Drop me a line!

J-

Thanks J-LOL.. Gotta get together soon man...Cant remember if you told me but are you going to cc?
B

Test run on trying to rotate my pic guys..got a new pc and for some reason my pics dont show up correctly?

HAH!!! got it : )

Make sure you the left ear white most people do it silver which is wrong the only parts showing metal are on the right ear set up on the same place that are expossed metal ESB,
and the green arrow is almost green but it is almost black

Hey BG thanks- Which arrow..the front? I thought it was blueish? Also, I cant find any good reference pics of the right ear?
Thanks

The one you posted is pretty good, but there are better ones around ,
and the arrows, right is red and left is black green, and the borden is bare metal

Thanks BG- Ya, ive seen some pics w/ the borden bare metal, and some white...Ill probablly do that topically along w/ the arrows. Many of the pics in the gallery are black and white which makes it difficult to decipher the small details.
Thanks man

No problem , its very likley that all the arows were that same colours there for you can use the PP2 and ROTJ for the colour refrence for them and seeing as the bordens are all bare metal it makes sense ,

Hey guys- What are your thoughts on weathering the super trooper up a bit? Maybe some smoked edges, as well as crevaces etc? Ive been kicking around the idea.
B

Dont do it

B - Yes, we definitely have to get together. Are you talking about SDCC? or LB? I'm going to attempt LB, but I think SD is SOLD OUT. I'm not sure. I'll look into it and let you know. Now, in regards to weathering.....I would say, "no." Since I don't think it ever saw any screen time, weathering would completely dimenish the accuracy. With that being said, it's your build and you gotta go where the feeling takes you! Either way, it's gonna look awesome!

Your gonna need one of these.



Boba Pre-Pro Sling pistol - a set on Flickr

You've got some great sets on flickr, Seeker!

Hey Seeker those are sick!

Originally Posted by Fett 4 Real

Dont do it

LOL..Just kicking it around F4R LMAO! Cmon...noone has weathered a ST that ive seen..lets get CRAZY!

Originally Posted by dynamic1

Hey Seeker those are sick!

Thanks man. I sent you a PM.

If it were mine I would keep it nice and clean and buff the hell out o it to get that nice reflective shine!!!!

Wowzers. This is going to be epic. I will watch closely. ;-) Good luck!

Originally Posted by mhlayne

Wowzers. This is going to be epic. I will watch closely. ;-) Good luck!

Thanks Mhlayne, will post more pics soon.
B

Hey all- Just an update. I had a very minor one day setbck as I wasnt happy w/ a couple little flaws that were slightly visible.. one on the brow, and one on the right lower ear. With some great tutleage from obro and deadland I was able to perservere! I wet sanded the heck out of those spots w/ 800 and walah..near perfect : )!!! Thanks so much guys..I will resume w/ another coat of gloss white tomorrow.
Once I complete this does anyone know how to get that little extra shine thats needed???
Thanks
B

Carnuba

Buff it and gloss coat it, I would guess.

Originally Posted by CSK225

Carnuba

Buff it and gloss coat it, I would guess.

Hey CSK225...seriously? Thats one In havent heard yet. Ill look into it.
B

Brasil palm wax

It's worth a shot. Try it on a test piece first though!!!!!

Id stick with high gloss paint personally ,

Originally Posted by BGHunter

Id stick with high gloss paint personally ,

You think a varnish would be ok? Ive seen some of the guys use this post gloss paint.
Thanks
B

Question: Is the RF weathered on the black section as the others? I would guess no but in one of the pictures it appears to be?
Thanks

What about a clear coat in gloss?

Sometimes you have to be careful with glosscoats out of a rattlecan because you can get a weird effect where you overlap the strokes sometimes.
At least that's been my experience

Have you considered an extensive auto polish and waxing over your perfect wet sanding? I wonder if that might work?

Hey Fett7-I thought about that but went w/ the high gloss laquer thinking it woul be better...not real shiney though. Is there someting I can buff it with like a grade of paper? Or should I try the wax?

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

Sometimes you have to be careful with glosscoats out of a rattlecan because you can get a weird effect where you overlap the strokes sometimes.
At least that's been my experience

Have you considered an extensive auto polish and waxing over your perfect wet sanding? I wonder if that might work?

Hey Maud- I dont have any experience w/ auto polish but this sounds like it might be better than what im doing. What does this entail?
Thnx

get you some rubbing compound to polish up it...then get some wax to shine it up after the compound the compound is the equivilent of like 3000 grit paper

Did you use the Rustoleum High Gloss Professional? (The silver can, there are two different types) I use that for all the TK/TB buckets I paint and you can get a very nice gloss from them but you have to spray it a little heavier that what would be normal.

Here is a pic of a TK bucket, this was just the paint -- no wetsand, no finishing, nothing.




After it's all finished I usually hit them with a nice coating of wax, either Maguire's gold class or the NXT.



Love this helmet you are doing and I would not weather it, I am usually a nut for weathering but in the case of this particular helmet, leaving it bright white and shiny is the way to go.

do u hit it with a light coat then a heavy coat like u would with clear?

BTW the TK looks so nice with the gloss

Normally, I do very light coats on everything BUT this Rustoleum (I have heard appliance epoxy works well too but I have never tried it). Yeah the first coat, i'll go decently light, give it maybe 5 minutes or so, then go with a heavy coating for the second spray. I will then go a third IF necessary, if you go really thick the cure time goes up of course but with all the helmets I have done, I have had great results but it's a fine line, a bit more and you get drips. The last TB I did, I had one slight drip on the edge of the visor but it was hardly noticeable (well it was to me haha) but the owner was fine with it.

To light and you get an orange peeled finish, it's a bit finicky but it has great results and holds up to abuse really well. The wax helps too, I also us a Toyo Guard synthetic that a friend of mine got with his Toyota, the stuff works awesome on both paint and abs alike.

There is two types of Rustoleums and sometimes people grab the wrong one, I was curious which on the OP used?

WOW guys- This is really helpful! Where do I get the professional brand at? Im getting really tired of wetsanding again and again thats for sure! The spray is my last hope cuz ive tried everything possible LOL! I was contemplating spit shine at this point LMAO!!!! let me know where to purchase this. Thanks for the help guys, and that TK looks unbelievable!!!
B

try Home depot or lowes. I forget which carries rustoleum... I've bought the professional brand stuff in other colors myself... It's pretty good!!!

If you want to go with a clear coat try something like this. It gives good results.

2K clear coat: Spraymax

It should make it look more like an automotive finish. Nice work so far. Keep it up.

Yup, as SmuWindu said, you can find them at Home Depot and Lowe's and even some Wal*Mart Supercenters as well, they sometimes have the black and the white.

This is what you are looking for;



The can on the left, that is the professional, the regular can is white, the pro is a chrome silver color as you can see, make sure you pick up the pro. The new cans have a better nozzle on them now as well, really has a better flow. Try it on some scrap first to get the feel so you can see how to get the finish you want, you have to go a little heavier with it to get the glossy finish. There is plenty in one can so no worries there.

Here is a pic of a TB bucket I just finished for a squad mate, again NO sanding, clear or any kind of finishing, this was straight from the can. I prepped it with the primer you see in the pic and sanded it down, then primed and sanded before painting. Good prep is very important as well.




I gave it a nice coat of wax before delivery but that was it. Cure time is slow on this stuff, I give it a full 7 days cure time (i'll paint details and stuff before then but I like to give it plenty of time to cure up, once it does it's a durable finish).

Hope this is helpful for you on your project, I would LOVE to get another Fett bucket and paint it up in the Super Trooper, just to put on the shelf.

Alright guys- Thanks to all of your help I was able to actually get a reflection LOL! The pro gloss recommended by PF is much closer to what I was looking for...thanks man! This pic was taken from my iphone just after 2 light coats! I am going to hit another in about 20.

That looks great! Nice job!

U want to do a heavy coat bud to the point where it might run....itll come out super glossy

Bro that is looking great can't wait to check it out this week.

Alright...Now were gettin somewhere! F4R- I know exactly what you mean about the heavy coat...to the point where you are sweating and stressed out LOL! Here are the latest pics. I think ive exhausted my "NO DRIP" card so this should do it. Let me know what you think guys and thanks for all the feedback thus far! Also, remember these are from my iphone so its actually a bit more glossy than these display.
B HAPPY 4th everyone!

put it out in the sun...did u liquid mask the borden?

Originally Posted by dynamic1

- I know exactly what you mean about the heavy coat...to the point where you are sweating and stressed out LOL! Here are the latest pics. I think ive exhausted my "NO DRIP" card so this should do it.

Haha I could not explain that to anybody, any better than that. I will have to remember that for the future. Spray it heavy until you think it's about to drip but JUST before lol. It is stressful.

Originally Posted by Fett 4 Real

put it out in the sun...did u liquid mask the borden?

K I will for ya...no im gonna do the borden topically when I do the arrows.
B

Anyone know if the RF is weathered?

Originally Posted by Fett 4 Real

put it out in the sun...did u liquid mask the borden?

looks good only reason I asked about the borden is to have as little paint on it as possible so its crispy clean looking

Originally Posted by Fett 4 Real

looks good only reason I asked about the borden is to have as little paint on it as possible so its crispy clean looking

Oh got it...Ill sand it nice and smooth. Ive been so preoccupied w/ the whole gloss thing that I wasnt even thinking about it LOL! Same thing on the attached ear piece. On the removeable section I already have the metal section done : )...Thoughts on the RF and weathering? I dont think its weathered?

Looks good man, yeah anywhere you are going to attach something, just sand it back down smooth again. That paint is very thick, BUT don't sand any of it until it's fully cured or it can get real gummy.

Hey PF- Ya, I figured. Any thoughts on how to do the metal bits? I planned on just sanding the borden down, tape off around it, and spray the metalic.. or, sand it down, tape just around it and hand paint w/ a brush? Not sure yet.. any thoughts? also, is the RF weathered at the top???
Thanks
B

I dont think id weather the RF...as for the metal bits Id tape around em and rub n buff em

Hey Fett- I thought about that too! WHere do I get R/B at?
Thanks

hobby lobby, michaels places like that bud

Thanks Fett- Thanks man! Also, in most of the pics I have the borden is not metal..its white. I may just leave it white and do the silver bits on the ear?
Thnx

Looks AWESOME! What's your NEXT project, 'cause I KNOW you're already thinking about it?!?!?!? LOL!! Great Job!!

Finally located the "meet boba fett" video on SW.com. The borden and right ear bits are indeed metal : ). Im still going w/ a red and blue arrow as in one of my good ref pics it appears just as the ROTJ does..im not saying its 100% accurate but thats how it appears to me at this point. just layed the black down on the RF and will hit w/ one more light coat tomorrow.
B

Originally Posted by OBrotherRacing

Looks AWESOME! What's your NEXT project, 'cause I KNOW you're already thinking about it?!?!?!? LOL!! Great Job!!

LMAO! well..I need to get a move on w/ my jango! Hows it going w/ your build man? Man those MR's are a beauty!!!
B

Hey all- Got the metal bits done w/ R n B and will post pics soon! Any thoughts on clear coat or laquer to seal? At this point im afraid to lose any gloss that I was able to achieve. Is it necessary to coat the pro gloss?
Thanks

I would not worry about any type of sealer or lacquer, I suppose you could if you want but I have never had to with any of the TB/TK buckets I have painted with this stuff, so that is about two years now.

Well ur gonna wanna kick me but...the upper ear on the right ear should be RnB too...so get back to work...not the base but if u look at the pic in ur first post u can see what I mean

Originally Posted by OBrotherRacing

SWEET! You did a GREAT JOB with the RnB detailing. Can't wait to see it with the visor. CONGRATS!

BTW - Great stand, where did you get it???

Hey Obro- Thanks man...ya the r&b was tedious. I got the stands from woodchuck. Chucko sent me the link on my ROTJ fett thread.
B

Originally Posted by Fett 4 Real

Well ur gonna wanna kick me but...the upper ear on the right ear should be RnB too...so get back to work...not the base but if u look at the pic in ur first post u can see what I mean

Hey Fett-LOL... The ear cap isnt attached yet as its already completed as well. Ive studied the video reference a dozen times and the only parts on the rt ear that are metal are the bottom as you see in the pic, and the detachable part just the bottom of it.Similar to the esb fett I guess. Thanks man!
B

Right the part on the side of the top of the right ear that is NORMALLY detachable is metal but its part of the budget you have...i dont really wanna photoshop a pic to show u but I will if i need to...look closely at the pic...the part of the bottom ear u RnB'd above it that whole piece is left metal as well, just tape off around it and RnB that part

Hey Fett..I think I see..at the top (tip) of the removeable piece? Could that just be lighting? In the vieo its not like that. If its not too much of a pain in the butt could u just mark the area?
Thanks
B

On it...its like the ROTJ ears I think where the whole RF holder is metal and left metal doesnt make sense to paint it

but looking at the NON dented one I have a picture of on my wall it DOES NOT have that part bare metal...but IMHO this dented version that part IS bare metal

Look at the areas the part u made metal and the part thats removable that holds the RF are the same color...

also look at the pic with the storm trooper helmet Im deffinately seeing metal Boba Fett Supertrooper Helmet - The Dented Helmet Gallery

Hey Fett..I think I see..at the top (tip) of the removeable piece? Could that just be lighting? In the vieo its not like that. If its not too much of a pain in the butt could u just mark the area?
Thanks
B

Gotcha- Its so confusing because in that all metal one w/ the stormy the arrows are not painted so I assumed it was some "pre-thought" type of photo like a preliminary. Also, I had asok do the whole lid white resin that way I could do the bits myself. In hindsite, and finding out this lid is way more difficult than I expected : ), I wouldve had him do the right ear in cc..so for future, anyone wanting to do a supertrooper have asok leave the right ear cc : ).
So Fett, here is a pic of what ive done (which is the same as the video). You are suggesting to do the whole thing R/B? With the uncertainty do u think I could go either way? IMHO I think the all metal looks like its just not completed yet..idk LOL!

Well on ROTJ PP2- V1 and V2 theyre metal like Im talking about ESB is the only one where theyre actually painted and on PP1 as well

Its a curse...spend alot of time reading threads here painting helmets and looking at ref pics in the gallery

LMAO!!! Just took a cotton swab and a tiny bit of rubbing alcohol and took a couple of the R/B scuffs off. Worked like a charm! Thanks again for casting your curse upon me.
B

WOW Brian that sucker turned out great I can't wait to see this bad boy up close. You have done a great job and should be proud now you need to do an ears version!!!!

just noticed are you going to take the white off the ear cap?

Originally Posted by Fett 4 Real

just noticed are you going to take the white off the ear cap?

Hey Fett- No, that part seems white to me when I look at it. Plus, I think that all metal shot could be an unfinished version. It just doesnt make sense to me. Thanks man

like I said its bare metal on the Sandy Helmets just kinda dirty

Originally Posted by deadland

WOW Brian that sucker turned out great I can't wait to see this bad boy up close. You have done a great job and should be proud now you need to do an ears version!!!!

Thanks deadland!!! post up that armor

B - That thing looks AWESOME! Congratulations. You keep this up, you're gonna earn quite the name for yourself. Especially for not even being here for a full year! Great job. Let's see some more work on the minin-me Boba now....LOL!!! Oct. 31st is just around the corner!!

yeh it looks great bud

Wow. I don't know how I missed this. Great results! It really looks awesome.

WOW VERY NICE!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS for your work!!!!!

Leo

Very nice!!

Awesome I plan on doing the same with the helmet I just got.

Originally Posted by Tsophika

Wow. I don't know how I missed this. Great results! It really looks awesome.

Thanks alot man!

Originally Posted by Boba Leo

WOW VERY NICE!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS for your work!!!!!

Leo

Thanks Boba Leo