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    Oct 14, 2011, 6:13 AM - Size order #1

    Greetings all,

    So I'm the new guy on the forums and would like to start by saying that the work you guys do and the knowledge you all have is awesome. This is a really great community and I'm eagerly trying to piece my ESB set together and join in. I've ran into a problem though. I ordered up some pieces (helmet, armor, jetpack) and received them in the mail today. When I tried on my helmet, it was smaller than I anticipated. The cheekbones on the helmet prevented me from fitting it on (I wear a 7 5/8 hat size). I've got a large dome, but I never thought I would not be able to fit a Boba helmet on. When I ordered my helmet, the maker said it was a Mystery helm, and from the research I've done on my own across several sites, this helm does not measure up to be a Mystery helm. It's about 1" shorter on width, the height doesn't seem to fit, and it is also pretty warped on the back side of the helmet (The lower back left of the helmet is much more squared than the lower back right). I've seen individual pictures of the DP and am not sure if it's a Mystery or a DP. So I'm pretty upset at this because I'm not really sure if it's what I ordered or not.

    So the real question is, what is the largest of all the fan-made helms? Is it the FP? I saw some side-by-sides on the GMH with other helms beside it (FP being one of them) and the FP was quite a bit larger.

    Is the FP the same size as the FP Cold Cast that Asok is now selling? I'm not sure what individual 'packages' really mean in relation to helmet size. This is all sort of confusing in the beginning stages.

    My thought is, if what I have in my hands right now is really a Mystery helm, and it's small (only in cheeks), then I should buy the biggest helm out there and hope for the best once it arrives. I cannot imagine I am the only one that has ever had this issue. Can anyone provide some information or suggestions?

    On a side note, I would rather not name who I purchased the items from on an open forum because I do not feel it is right to talk 'badly' about others work. If anyone has a question as to who it was, please PM me and we can discuss it as long as it does not leave PM status. Thanks for understanding.

    TSPhoenix
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    Oct 14, 2011, 6:46 AM - Re: Size order #2

    I think the best is to post some images of the helmet to be 'analized' by the professionals here, this way you will be sure what you bought. I'm not too familiar with the helmet sizes and types but it is possible that your helmet to be smaller than the original helmet which has around 230 mm/9.05 inch from one ear base to the other ear base.
    Last edited by RafalFett; Oct 14, 2011 at 7:02 AM. Reason: Corrected helmet measurement.
  3. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Oct 14, 2011, 7:02 AM - Re: Size order #3

    The bigger is the MSH 2, but it's not avaiable nowadays. What you can actually buy is a MR cast sold by asok. That's the bigger you can buy at the present day.
  4. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Oct 14, 2011, 7:25 AM - Re: Size order #4

    MLC >= MSH 2 > MSH > FPH > TF > MR Proto > MR > GMH >= BGH > MLC 2 > BM/MH/MS1/MS2/MS3 > Altmann's > DP Deluxe > DP '95/Rubies

    Darkened names are what you can buy actually. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    Last edited by KaanE; Oct 14, 2011 at 7:34 AM.
  5. BGHunter is offline BGHunter
    Oct 14, 2011, 7:26 AM - Re: Size order #5

    Show us some pics of the helmet and the other stuff you got ,
    And who was the maker?
    Also lots of helmets need to be put on side ways then turned once on , so it may not be as bigger deal as you think , though it doesnt sound promising
    But yeah the Asok helmet is a good size and the cheeks are not to deep , in fact it is one helmet you can put on with out needing to turn it , and he is a great guy to deal with ,,

    Kaane isnt the MLC2 smaller, more along the mystery size.
  6. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Oct 14, 2011, 7:30 AM - Re: Size order #6

    Quote BGHunter said: View Post
    Show us some pics of the helmet and the other stuff you got ,
    And who was the maker?
    Also lots of helmets need to be put on side ways then turned once on , so it may not be as bigger deal as you think , though it doesnt sound promising
    But yeah the Asok helmet is a good size and the cheeks are not to deep , in fact it is one helmet you can put on with out needing to turn it , and he is a great guy to deal with ,,

    Kaane isnt the MLC2 smaller, more along the mystery size.
    You're correct. Post modified.
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    Oct 14, 2011, 8:41 AM - Re: Size order #7

    I'm a fellow melon head; I'm pretty sure I wear the same hat size and the Asok helmet fit me fine.
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    Oct 14, 2011, 9:42 AM - Re: Size order #8

    I have a mystery helmet by sgt. Fang and it fits me good. Post the pics everyone here will be able to tell from those.
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    Oct 14, 2011, 3:52 PM - Re: Size order #9

    Attached are pic's of the bucket. Sorry for the quality, all I have to work with is a cell phone : / I obviously do not have the visor or the ears installed at this time.

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  10. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Oct 14, 2011, 4:18 PM - Re: Size order #10

    It can be two things. Or a modified and badly recasted MSH (I don't think so), or IIRC it's a "fanmade" helmet from eBay. I have only seen these in eBay.
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    Oct 14, 2011, 4:19 PM - Re: Size order #11

    Quote KaanE said: View Post
    MLC >= MSH 2 > MSH > FPH > TF > MR Proto > MR > GMH >= BGH > MLC 2 > BM/MH/MS1/MS2/MS3 > Altmann's > DP Deluxe > DP '95/Rubies
    KaanE,

    Thanks for the list! So which ones of these is the FP (Budget)?

    I'm not fully up on all of the acronyms for the helmets. And I don't mean any disrespect to the past and present builders of the buckets, I'm just rather "ignorant" of all the facts at the moment. Trying to soak up all I can now and become well-informed. I think that these are the following:

    MLC = ?
    MSH 2 = Movie Size Helmet
    FPH = Fett Pride Helmet
    TF = ?
    MR Proto = Masters Replica Prototype
    MR = Masters Replica
    GMH = Grant McCune Helmet
    BGH =
    MLC 2= ?
    BM = BobaMaker??
    MH = Mystery Helmet
    MS1/2/3= ?
    DP Deluxe= Don Post Deluxe
    DP = Don Posts
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    Oct 14, 2011, 4:22 PM - Re: Size order #12

    I have the same size head (7 5/8), and recently purchased a Bobamaker helmet which has plenty of room for my big dome. I even had room for a wireless mic transmitter and fan. Hope this helps!
  13. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Oct 14, 2011, 4:51 PM - Re: Size order #13

    MLC = MLCallanta
    MSH 2 = Movie Size Helmet
    FPH = Fett Pride Helmet
    TF = TerminalFettler
    MR Proto = Masters Replica Prototype
    MR = Masters Replica (actual asok's)
    GMH = Grant McCune Helmet
    BGH = BGHunter
    MLC 2= MLCallanta 2
    BM = BobaMaker
    MH = Mystery Helmet
    MS1/2/3= MarrowSun 1/2/3
    DP Deluxe= Don Post Deluxe
    DP = Don Posts
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    Oct 14, 2011, 4:56 PM - Re: Size order #14

    Quote KaanE said: View Post
    MLC = MLCallanta
    MSH 2 = Movie Size Helmet
    FPH = Fett Pride Helmet
    TF = TerminalFettler
    MR Proto = Masters Replica Prototype
    MR = Masters Replica (actual asok's)
    GMH = Grant McCune Helmet
    BGH = BGHunter
    MLC 2= MLCallanta 2
    BM = BobaMaker
    MH = Mystery Helmet
    MS1/2/3= MarrowSun 1/2/3
    DP Deluxe= Don Post Deluxe
    DP = Don Posts
    You really know your stuff man. Like a Fett dictionary.

  15. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Oct 14, 2011, 5:02 PM - Re: Size order #15

    I wish that stuff was useful at the university...
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    Oct 14, 2011, 5:11 PM - Re: Size order #16

    Thanks for the master break down KaanE. So does that mean the MR is the same thing as the FP Budget (since Asok makes it) or is the FP Budget the same size mold as the FPH?
  17. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Oct 14, 2011, 5:17 PM - Re: Size order #17

    Asok bought the fettpride moulds. The only diference is that Asok is doing them with cold casted polyurethane resin while fettpride used to do them with gelcoat/fiberglass/polystyrene resin. But the helmets (as well as the moulds) are exactly the same.
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    Oct 14, 2011, 5:27 PM - Re: Size order #18

    Quote KaanE said: View Post
    Asok bought the fettpride moulds. The only diference is that Asok is doing them with cold casted polyurethane resin while fettpride used to do them with gelcoat/fiberglass/polystyrene resin. But the helmets (as well as the moulds) are exactly the same.
    Thanks so much for all the information. So the FP is more than likely bigger than the one I currently have, and I'm sure way better quality. I'm very disappointed in the cast of the one I have. The size does not bother me as much as the proportions and actual sculp. I'm trying to get my hands on a FP and finish it before Halloween. We will see if that's possible O_o
  19. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Oct 14, 2011, 5:36 PM - Re: Size order #19

    The basic rule is to buy things from here instead of eBay. You will get them cheaper and you'll be sure you'll receive a HQ product.
  20. BGHunter is offline BGHunter
    Oct 14, 2011, 6:32 PM - Re: Size order #20

    Yeah we have seen a few dissapointed punters with those same castings

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