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  1. Community Founder Art Andrews's Avatar
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    Feb 17, 2005, 1:53 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #26

    Quote Helmetman said:
    If someone 'creates' something from nothing and it gets ripped off. Yeah man, that sucks big time.

    If someone 'creates' something from an existing piece and it gets duped, you gotta roll with the punches.
    At TDH, in either case, as has been stated in my previous post, either of these actions can and will get a member banned. We will not "roll with the punches" here. Do not recast another member's work, whether it be an improvement to an existing helmet like the DP Dlx or a totally original sculpt like the MSH, period.
  2. Feb 17, 2005, 3:18 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #27

    Has anyone who makes and sell's so called legitimate casts/recast's here made a million bucks yet?...

    Mason...
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    Feb 17, 2005, 3:19 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #28

    I thought we weren't going to stir THAT pot again...
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    Feb 17, 2005, 3:50 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #29

    Aparently someone brought a spoon to the party!
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    Feb 17, 2005, 3:54 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #30

    Master-Jedi-Allma,

    The administration has made it's policy perfectly clear in the "Mystery Helmet," Bobamaker, Marrow_Sun, and Helmetman matter. We are trying to ease tensions and your are simply adding unnecessary fuel to the fire. Your comment in this post is neither constructive nor helpful.

    Furthermore, and this applies to everyone, any additional comments that the administration deems inappropriate for this thread will result in a temporary ban.
    Last edited by Tyler Durden; Feb 17, 2005 at 4:01 PM.
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    Feb 17, 2005, 4:10 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #31

    From now on, I'm not going to comment on recasting matters.

    It just gets me into trouble

    From now on....I'm thinking happy thoughts.
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    Feb 17, 2005, 4:15 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #32

    Yes, To OBI_WAN you listen
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    V
  8. slave1pilot is offline slave1pilot
    Feb 17, 2005, 4:16 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #33

    If it takes a chicken & a half, a day and a half, to lay an egg and a half,How long would it take a 1 inch cricket with a wooden leg to pound a ten-penny nail through a two by four?
  9. Community Founder Art Andrews's Avatar
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    Feb 17, 2005, 4:41 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #34

    Quote slave1pilot said:
    If it takes a chicken & a half, a day and a half, to lay an egg and a half,How long would it take a 1 inch cricket with a wooden leg to pound a ten-penny nail through a two by four?

    Pfffttttt.... everyone knows the answer to that!!! Orange!!!! Duh!!!!
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    Feb 17, 2005, 4:49 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #35

    4 days 3 hours 23 min and 9 sec.
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    Feb 17, 2005, 6:03 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #36

    Let's all form an angry linch mob! lol


    jk
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    Feb 17, 2005, 6:11 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #37

    OOO, we haven't had us a good linchin' down in these parts in some time.
  13. Feb 18, 2005, 3:08 AM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #38

    huh?...
    I not sure what the fuss is about?...
    I'm mearly asking the question in an effort to point out if this whole debate is really that important...

    Are we talking about someones multi million dollar bucket making industry being ripped off here...Apart from rubies and Don Posts(seems thats OK? )

    I mean personally... I could care less if someone makes one dollar or one million dollars selling buckets to SW fans...
    I just wanna a bucket to make and display for my own personal interest's...

    You guys gotta get a sense of humour and take a look at the bigger picture...
    People starving in 3rd world nations...
    Thousands killed in a tsunami...
    Hundreds dead from mine explosion...
    Etc etc etc...

    And your all got one hand on the phone to your lawyer's?...
    Over a hunk of plastic which was made to measure for the man, (GL) who had an idea for a great movie saga....
    A long time ago....

    I say...
    Put the phone down...
    and....
    Just enjoy life while you got one and try to forget about all the bucket bother...please...
    I aint trying to wind people up, just put things in perspective...

    Mason...8)
    Last edited by Master-Jedi-Allma; Feb 18, 2005 at 3:22 AM.
  14. Feb 18, 2005, 3:52 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #39

    Quote tylerdurden said:
    Master-Jedi-Allma,

    The administration has made it's policy perfectly clear in the "Mystery Helmet," Bobamaker, Marrow_Sun, and Helmetman matter. We are trying to ease tensions and your are simply adding unnecessary fuel to the fire. Your comment in this post is neither constructive nor helpful.

    Furthermore, and this applies to everyone, any additional comments that the administration deems inappropriate for this thread will result in a temporary ban.
    Tylerdurden...
    When did I mention the BM/MS matter By the way?...
    You said "Your comment..."?
    It was a question wasn't it?
    You say im adding unnecessary fuel to the fire?...
    My intention with the question was to "Make light of it" and throw "water" on the fire and wake people up to the fact that they are overeacting to something that none of us owns to or even has the rights to...

    I thought its a community here that is based on replicating thier favourite character's, the Fett's...
    Are we all not guilty of replicating/copying, what ever you wanna call it, someone else's idea for our own pleasure and benefit?...

    Maybe im niaeve,

    Please correct me if some of you DO have the rights to make/distribute LFL props etc...

    I will then stand corrected...:thumbup

    But for now i'm just gonna go and sit next to my bucket collection and be thankfull for the things I have and feel lucky that i'm alive today to enjoy it...
    Thats more important in my eye's..

    Mason...
    Ps:... my wife came by and read this thread earlier and her comment was...
    "I cant believe a bunch of SW geeks (her words but meaning "me" included obviously) are arguing over who has the right to copy something from George Lucas's movies?!...Thats hilarious!"...

    Put it in perspective for me...LOL!
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    Feb 18, 2005, 4:41 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #40

    Not that it really all matters...I'm really new around here...but here's my two cents...


    1. I see nothing wrong with taking someone's helmet design, improving it, and then recasting it to make a quality prop for your own use. (I had to underscore the "own use" part.)

    2. You become a "shameless recaster" when you take someone else's hard work, albeit improve upon it yes, but then turn around make casts and sell them off as your own!?

    I don't agree nor do I totally understand why someone would do something so offensive as that. If you lack the ability and talent to make something on your own then don't be hack and blatently steal someone's hard work. Again just my two cents...not that it matters.

    -Marrow_Sun and others like you...keep up the good work! I for one appreciate the fact that when I buy something from you I know I'm getting YOUR hard, original work.......not a recast!
    Last edited by Fosterkeri; Feb 18, 2005 at 4:46 PM.
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    Feb 18, 2005, 5:26 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #41

    I have fought and argued these points for over a year. There is "nothing new under the sun" as pro or anti-recast arguements. TDH has made it's stance very clear. I do not completely agree but I do completely comply. If I wanted to recast my Marrow_Sun helmet I would have to choose to quit here and join another community. I do not choose that nor do I like my odds at finding a community as nice as this one.

    End o' story. (Now, if I saw an original "Mystery" base helmet on Ebay and had the time to learn to make a mold, I just might buy it up and make some some buckets. )
  17. Feb 18, 2005, 5:33 PM - Re: SHAMELESS RECAST #42

    Just to clarify things here...
    Admin, as you are more than capable of getting the fact's correct in matters of this nature...
    can you put it straight to everyone who's confused or just interested...
    Are the MS, MSH,MSH2 etc etc..buckets made from scratch...

    I mean were they originally made from a lump of clay or cardboard or whatever and then formed into shape and cast in fibreglass or whatever?...

    Or were they originally a helmet of some origin, be it DP or Rubies etc etc and then formed into a better shape and then recasted in fibreglass or whatever?...

    It would be most helpful I think...
    When I look about the threads all I see are these buckets like MS and MSH in comparison's and opinions.
    But it would be nice for all members new and old to have a full list of known available buckets and thier origins in one definitive posting for all to see and know without speculation or second guess's...

    You dont have to and I imagine you probably wont, but i would be nice to know...

    Cheers,

    Mason...
    Last edited by Master-Jedi-Allma; Feb 18, 2005 at 7:05 PM.

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