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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    I had much better results with the enamel version. I think it turned out just about perfect, didn't have to add any red or anything special:
    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showp...7&postcount=48

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Is there anywhere online I can order some of the enamel? I didn't see it on the Testors website.

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Sorry to double post, but instead of creating a whole new topic I thought I'd just ask here again. I tried out the Boxcar Red acrylic without altering the color, and it did come out a little dull, thought I'd ask for some expert opinion. I'm thinking I might try to come up with a batch of a slightly brighter red and try that out. Any thoughts?

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    I bought my helemet already painted, but i used box car red enamel "brushed on" on my jet pack. The green i used was wrong "testers US GREEN in a rattle can" but the red came out very nice. Somebody correct me if i'm wrong but i believe that the "polly scale" is acrylic and the "floquil" brand is enamal

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    patiam69 said:
    Somebody correct me if i'm wrong but i believe that the "polly scale" is acrylic and the "floquil" brand is enamal
    You are correct, sir. I mistakenly tried to mix a custom color one time using a Polly S. blue and a Floquil red. . . the results were unsuccessful.

    After I had shaken the mixture up, the paints looked up at me and said, "Well that didn't work out like you thought, did it!"

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    COTM, I noticed the acrylic behaves exactly like that; it tends to come out a lot less saturated and even a little less red. If you are going to repaint, do it with the enamel version (Floquil) of Boxcard Red. You should have a lot better results.
    If you're just looking to fix up what you have, you might want to try doing some red and black washes, and a semi-gloss clearcoat. I've never tried it, but it might make it a bit closer to what you want.

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Thanks for the advice, JFJ. Another question I had, the list suggests RLM green for the left ear. On the Testors website, under Polly Scale Military acrylics, there's RLM 72 Green and RLM 73 Green. Will either one work, or is there a specific shade that's more accurate? Also, the list says Euro Dark Green for the back of the helmet, and I'm unable to find that on the Testors site. Anyone know where I could find some?

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    On the results of colors yes no doubt the difference between acrylic and enamel is way diffrent. The main reason to use acrylics over enamels is the real stuff is enamel and finding some of these colors in enamels is tough..so you have to work over the acrylics a little bit and trust me the raw color ain't on the original helmets either it's been worked over too. I know all of the colors used on the helmet but right now I got to keep my mouth shut due to non disclosure. But on the back an alternative that is extremely close is Navy Green (floquil) but finding it is almost impossible.

    I will say this the ear on the non rf side is actually very close to Panzer Olive green and I actually used that on the first helmet for MR.

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    I bought the acrylic boxcar, then went to a craft store and bought some bright red acrylic in a bottle. Then I just stated adding and mixing bright red till it got where I wanted it.

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Hi,
    I found a german side, you can see the different colours there from Testor:

    http://www.modellskipper.de/archive/...en_testors.htm

    (also the euro dark green)

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Hi,
    I found a german side, you can see the different colours there from Testor:

    http://www.modellskipper.de/archive/...en_testors.htm

    (also the euro dark green)

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    good find Boba Die Wix

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Yeah thats a great find on the color compare! I've been hunting for something like that for awhile now.

    Lee, I am glad to hear you confirm the color on the green ear. I thought it looked a lot like the Panzer Olive and so I custom mixed many greens with that color providing the bulk and am very pleased with how it came out.

    (When do we get to see your new helmet!)

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Go see the updates in original post. I fessed up on a few updates. Not trying to be overly mysterious on this just waiting out MR on getting their stuff out. I used all of the recently discovered stuff on their prototype helmets and some of it was the last of that color I had (I saved some for my helmet). To be honest even knowing the color is no help since some of the colors I have recently discovered since thye have not been made for 20 years.

    Lee

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Thanks for the update... I noticed you put "standing by" for the back of helmet color. I ended up using Ger. RLM 73 Green as by base and adding the cheapo Apple Barrel brand Cobalt Blue and some white till I got it exactly how I wanted it. Giving it that green, with blue tint to it without being "BLUE" per say. More of a Ritch green actualy... but I feel it matches the look of all my color corrected ref pics fairly well, obviously with a light wash it will match even more.

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Does applying an acrylic clear coat affect the overall color of certain aspects of the base paintjob?

    For example. The Boxcar red acrylic goes on the mandible a bit light but when you apply the clear coat does it darken this up a bit or am I wrong? Obviously if that is not the case I'd imagine darkening up the mixture on the airbrush with a little black and or/darker red. If I used enamel it'd be a different story I'm sure but I already bought 3 1oz. bottles of floquil boxcar red

    Thanks for any and all information regarding this

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    MacRory said:
    Does applying an acrylic clear coat affect the overall color of certain aspects of the base paintjob?

    For example. The Boxcar red acrylic goes on the mandible a bit light but when you apply the clear coat does it darken this up a bit or am I wrong? Obviously if that is not the case I'd imagine darkening up the mixture on the airbrush with a little black and or/darker red. If I used enamel it'd be a different story I'm sure but I already bought 3 1oz. bottles of floquil boxcar red

    Thanks for any and all information regarding this
    It dose tone down the contrast of the colors a bit... My advice is to take the color you are testing and paint it on a 1x1in square peice of paper or bigger, smaller can cause an optical illusion that the color is darker or lighter then it realy is. Start adding lighter or darker colors drop by drop tweeking the color till you get it exactly how you want it. Then appy the clear coat to see what effect it has to the tone of the color. If you think it is still to light or dark, keep tweeking it.

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Thank you Evan! Will give that a shot

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Hey, I don't know if anyone has checked here but in the last few months Testors has updated their website substantially and now you can find all of RSB's colors from the previos page just by typing in the name in the search.

    It includes all of the Floquil, and MM Military colors. No more running around to hobby stores trying to find everything.

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Well I ordered a bunch of colors from my local hobby store, and I also ordered some floquil airbrush thinner. Well guess what the Floquil thinner has been discontinued indeffinatally, (how they could discontinue a thinner for a line of paint they sell I have no idea)!!Does anyone know can I use the Model Master Enamel airbrush thinner for the Floquil stuff?

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Hey you should be ok floquil normally comes out of the bottle almost perfectly.

    Lee

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    So I can airbrush it with out thinner at all? Really? Awesome!

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    Assuming you have what I call an old school airbrush (Paasche etc) the newer airbrush styles are real picky and to me not designed for production work like the old paasches (if you want to paint it like the ILMers did and get like results use a paasche). But floquil out of jar should be fine regardless assuming it's not a pasty old bottle of gunk that has dried over time. I rarely thin my paints to be honest.

    Lee

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    Good to know. I am using one of the Iwata Eclipse siphon feed brushes.

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    Re: Rogue Studios' ESB Color list & Painting Techniques

    Hey Rogue, I'm wondering about the dark scratches on the POG sections. I started using the reefer gray and it really doesn't look right (see picture). What should I be using instead?
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