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  1. Predatormv's Avatar
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    Apr 18, 2007, 12:57 AM - Re: How to ruin a perfectally good paintjob, or how I spent my morning! #26

    Well this helmet seems to want to fight me every step of the way. If you look at the pink in the above pic you can see some texture in the pink, that is two things, one it is the masking, and two the paint didn't go on smooth. So I went to take the masking off and for some reason it just would not come off, and the texture of the paint was really annoying me. So today I sanded off all the paint on the mandibles, repainted the silver, remasked it, and sprayed the pink on (last time I hand painted it). It came out much better this time around. I think this helmet will be done (barring any more stupid problems) tomorrow and I should have final pics up of the comeplete paint job on Thursday!
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    Apr 18, 2007, 9:52 AM - Re: How to ruin a perfectally good paintjob, or how I spent my morning! #27

    The MSH1, MSH2, MLC1, and TF are all in the larger range and close to the same size... more so the MSH1, 2, and TF then the MLC1. If you are 6' or taller with out the helmet and boots on then any of those buckets will look correct on you. In my pics I am wearing a MSH2 and it looks proportionally to me as dose my TF. I think the "Accurate" Size helmet only works if your body is the same size and perportions to the actor at the time of shooting.
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    Apr 18, 2007, 10:28 AM - Re: How to ruin a perfectally good paintjob, or how I spent my morning! #28

    Quote webchief said: View Post
    Yup, at 6'2" the MSH2 fits me well (at least I think it does).
    and at 5'9" the MSH2 just didn't look right on me.

    it's good to have options

    and back on topic, i think the pink mandibles look lovely. i say stick with that and go custom!
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    Apr 18, 2007, 3:17 PM - Re: How to ruin a perfectally good paintjob, or how I spent my morning! #29

    Quote evan4218 said: View Post
    The MSH1, MSH2, MLC1, and TF are all in the larger range and close to the same size... more so the MSH1, 2, and TF then the MLC1. If you are 6' or taller with out the helmet and boots on then any of those buckets will look correct on you. In my pics I am wearing a MSH2 and it looks proportionally to me as dose my TF. I think the "Accurate" Size helmet only works if your body is the same size and perportions to the actor at the time of shooting.
    I though Jeremy Bulloch was quoted at being 6'1" Keeping in mind that the differences in the sizes of these helmets is miniscule at best. I had a DP Deluxe and when set next to my MSH it didn't look that much smaller.

    Steve
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    Apr 18, 2007, 4:18 PM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #30

    I was never shure if he was that tall in or out of costume. My costume adds about 2" or more to my hight. I am 6' 5" out of costume.

    I do agree that there isnt a huge difference in sizes between the DP delux and the MSH helmets but there is between the DP95 and the MSH. If you put a DP95 next to a Sgn Fang there is alsmost no difference in the sizes. I did a comparison thread a while back showing a Mystery helmet next to a DP95 and you cant tell a size difference with out measuring.
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    Apr 18, 2007, 4:21 PM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #31

    Looking good! hate the it "peeled" on you...but youre doing excellant work!
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    Apr 19, 2007, 11:57 PM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #32

    AHHHHH well yesterday was the straw that broke the camel's back on this helmet. Once again paint peeled up on me when I masked off the dome, so I repainted it again. Well I had to mask the mandibles when I painted the dome again and then the paint peeled on the mandibles!!! So I was so fed up with it all I started sanding it all off and I am going to start all over. I hate this helmet now.
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    Apr 20, 2007, 12:08 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #33

    That SUX!!!!!! Any idea at all why the paint is peeling so bad on that sucker????? Are you pretty much using the same colors and brands that you did last time????? Strange!!! Hope it works out this time around.
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    Apr 20, 2007, 12:09 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #34

    WoW... that sucks... good luck!
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    Apr 20, 2007, 12:56 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #35

    Actually I just started using "floquil bright silver" from the spray can. Also I have never used these paints before as they are the newly found paints that Micke found. So really no I have not used any of these paints before.

    I think it has to do with the silver, I think it has too slick of a surface and nothing is sticking to it. So I am going to try switching back to the silver I used to use and see if that helps.
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    Apr 20, 2007, 1:09 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #36

    Good plan!!!! Keep us updated
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    Apr 20, 2007, 2:58 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #37

    g'luck dude! I cant wait to see the end result!
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    Apr 20, 2007, 8:24 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #38

    Man jsut take a break from it for a few days. Then come back refreshed. I've ruined more things then I can count because I was working frustrated. And you certainly don't want that. Just take a break. You could... take pictures of your blaster for me so I could see how you attached your sling, and how its painted. That would get your mind off of the helmet for a a little while... =)



    Phil

    (I just got my blaster in the mail and I'm looking to see how others painted theirs.)
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    Apr 20, 2007, 1:41 PM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #39

    Try topcoating the Floquil bright silver with Future or Krylon Gloss Acrylic. I haven't had problems masking over either and the clear will keep the masking from staining or other ill effects. Good luck.
    Steve
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    Apr 20, 2007, 2:02 PM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #40

    Pred, you could try after sanding your bucket down, use some dupli-color adhesion promotor...works like a charm for me on gel-coats, resins and plastics, just a thought.
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    Apr 20, 2007, 2:15 PM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #41

    Quote CGClone said: View Post
    Pred, you could try after sanding your bucket down, use some dupli-color adhesion promotor...works like a charm for me on gel-coats, resins and plastics, just a thought.
    i love duplicolor stuff. their sandable primer rocks... dry enough to sand in 15 minutes on a nice warm, dry day.
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    Apr 20, 2007, 7:46 PM - Re: How to ruin a perfectally good paintjob, or how I spent my morning! #42

    Quote DL44 Blaster said: View Post
    I though Jeremy Bulloch was quoted at being 6'1" Keeping in mind that the differences in the sizes of these helmets is miniscule at best. I had a DP Deluxe and when set next to my MSH it didn't look that much smaller.

    Steve
    I am 6' plus...a hair under 6'1 and as you can see in the pic to the left JB is just a little shorter than me...keeping in mind that I am wearing my ST boots
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    Apr 20, 2007, 11:53 PM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #43

    Well I am not having a problem with the silver sticking to the primer but rather all the other colors sticking to the silver...

    Yea I think I am going to take a break from this for a bit, I have a jet pack that needs to be painted so I think I will give it a whril, since I hand paint those rather then airbrush them there is no masking tape involved so I won't have this same problem.
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    Apr 21, 2007, 12:04 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #44

    I don't think you will have any problems if you overcoat with the Future or Krylon. I seems like in other layered posts unless sealed or if you don't wait an extended period of time the paint tends to lift when masked. It also seems to depend on if you are using acrylic paints or enamel paints. The enamels with the appropriate thinners tend to bite into the previous coats and tend not to lift with masking. Still, I don't take the chance and overcoat with clear. I believe others follow the same procedure. Good luck with whatever you attempt.
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    Apr 21, 2007, 12:07 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #45

    I am using all enamels, and I even clear coated the red and it still lifted, which is why I am so frustrated and confused.
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    Apr 21, 2007, 12:11 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #46

    some of the silvers i've used tend to leave a powdery residue on the surface. after i've silver coated, if i run my finger across it, i get a metallic dust.

    so, after the silver layer, i'll wipe stuff down with a damp cloth to pick up any crud that may be on there.

    the one time i didn't do that, my paint lifted right off if the silver in sheets when i pulled up the tape.

    i've also started using the "delicate surfaces" variety of masking tape. it's one of the blue ones, but it's got very little adhesive on it. it is sort of a pain to put down, but i was able to peel if off of a trash bag without tearing the bag.
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    Apr 21, 2007, 1:00 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #47

    Oh no! Im so sorry to hear this. However im pretty sure that it is the Silver/chrome paint that makes the Enamel peel off. I was terrified that this would happen to me aswell so i first tried it out on a piece of fiberglass left from cutting out the T-visor area. I painted it silver, let it dry for 1 day, masked it and airbrushed Enamel on top and removed the liquid mask. This really worked and the paint stuck and will never come off. I used the Multona sprypaint for silver. Its a brand used for cars. Im pretty sure you can buy it in the US aswell. Good luck man!
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    Apr 21, 2007, 2:07 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #48

    Thanks everyone for the advise. I was going nuts with frustration on this one. I was about to smash something...then I didn't. I am sending the helmet away for a week to get it out of my sight (it will be sanded while it is away by a friend) and in the mean time I will paint the jet pack I have. Once it gets back it won't look like it does now so I hope my memory of the pains it has cause will be wiped away as well. Then I will start over.

    PS. Brian change your avatar, I keep getting destracted by it, that face is freaking me out...lol
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    Apr 21, 2007, 3:11 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #49

    Yeah...that is a distracting avatar!!! Good luck Pred....Hope after the break you are ready to hit it hard & make it work.
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    Jun 5, 2007, 6:08 AM - Re: Pre-Pro2 Helmet repaint: progress thread #50

    Ok I know I said I would update sooner but.... well I was lazy. I also didn't want to take pics with my crappy cell phone camera. So after CIV when I had my co-workers real camera I took some pics. They still aren't great becasue they are in bad lighting and some have the flash on but they are better then my cell would have taken. The colors look off in nearly every one of these pics, the helmet is not that light nor that dark. Some time soon I will have to get someone with a decent camera and studio set up to take some good pics of it so everyone can see what she actually looks like. Oh and ignore the low detail dental connector, thanks to my good buddy OLDTIMER it has been sanded almost completly off. I will be replacing it soon.






























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