PP2 casting vs MF - You be the judge

Wow, you are the man Brak's!!

now when will you have a Fett suit for yourself done?!

all I have are a few found parts... so at the current rate I am going... never...

Great post, timely topic.

I think I prefer the MR helmet, but I'll reserve judgement when it FINALLY arrives. Thanks for the pics.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

So Art would say the PP2, PP3, and maybe even the Hero AOSW ESB helmet are/ or might be, different helmets then??
Reason I say that is the dents are sooo different..

No. I don't think they are different helmets. Based on my research, I believe the helmets are all the same base helmet. However, they were cast without a dent. I believe they were all initially white with no dent and without a few other details. The dents were put in after the SuperTrooper was scrapped. Because the dents were all put in manually and not cast in, they look different and are placed slightly different. This is not fact, but my educated guess based on what I know and have seen. I could be entirely wrong, but there are a lot of tells that suggest the base helmets are all the same.

And I thought the MR is a 100% accurate one
I was thinking to order 2 of it just because I thought this is the closest deal.

Thx a lot Art.
You gave me a nice day

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

No. I don't think they are different helmets. Based on my research, I believe the helmets are all the same base helmet. However, they were cast without a dent. I believe they were all initially white with no dent and without a few other details. The dents were put in after the SuperTrooper was scrapped. Because the dents were all put in manually and not cast in, they look different and are placed slightly different. This is not fact, but my educated guess based on what I know and have seen. I could be entirely wrong, but there are a lot of tells that suggest the base helmets are all the same.

THAT'S RIGHT!! Supertrooper!! I forget about that one....

good stuff.

thanks

Great comparison bro. Cant wait to see your MR painted up!

Awesome comparison pics Brak's... I agree that as a mass produced lid it is very accommodating to all costumers but not for the die-hard Fett fanatics?

Thanks for posting these...

Originally Posted by Loanstar

And I thought the MR is a 100% accurate one
I was thinking to order 2 of it just because I thought this is the closest deal.

Thx a lot Art.
You gave me a nice day

PLEASE do not misunderstand. I truly believe a completely accurate Fett helmet would not be commercially viable as it looks terrible!!! It is very very rough. I don't think anyone who orders an MR will be disappointed as it is an absolutely beautiful helmet, open to everyone, and at a great price!

The MR looks absolutely stunning

Actually makes me glad that all those makers I PMd here about byuing a kit chose to ingore me I'l get this beauty instead

I agree, got to love the clean lines on the MR

Hmmm, I see the differences. They are both great looking helmets and the MR is available to the public. The MR's are awesome (out of my price range) but awesome. There are some scratchbuild's I've seen as well as the MF, Bobamaker and others I'm sure I'm overlooking that are incredible to me.

I'm a broke father of 2, so if anyone has an old bucket they just can't stand to have around because they've upgraded to a newer, more accurate helmet, or if you're cleaning out your Star Wars stuff, just PM me and maybe we can work out a deal.

As long as it looks better than this, we can talk.

Originally Posted by Southern hunter

I'm a broke father of 2, so if anyone has an old bucket they just can't stand to have around because they've upgraded to a newer, more accurate helmet, or if you're cleaning out your Star Wars stuff, just PM me and maybe we can work out a deal.

As long as it looks better than this, we can talk.

Bro that is killer...

Southern hunter,check your pm !

Everything is 2nd best short of having the actual screen used helmet - period.

But lets talk about these plugs and such,
who can say what damage and scratches and wonkiness was caused by poor casting or bad handling? Who is to say that these coveted and quickly recasted "official" copies of one of the alledeged line up of Fett helmets was given kid glove care when molded? Perhaps this had a big impact on the overall pulled piece, I don't know....

It appears they were quickly molded/recasted because it was a no-no.
What about the handling of the costumes pieces over the years. I've seen pics of the ankle spats displayed over the wrists!
Who can say whats completely accurate based on photos from when the costumes were haphazzardly thrown onto old shelving (as seen in the cd pics) and such have caused ?

At any rate, the MR for me is a helmet I can get that was digitally scanned from an official helmet which I think looks really good and with some minor touch ups can be made very screen accurate.

The best part is I (and anyone)can get one without having to confim my alliances/friendships here or having to deal with someone doing a half-cocked background check on me just to get something fan made around here,
by begging for one or having to "kiss up" constantly and hope...or having to deal with secret web sites inside this web site, broken promises, certain people getting stuff then throwing it up in everyones faces who did not, pics that were supposed to be posted "for the community" but were not, ect, ect, ect, blah, blah blah,

You know - Jason had the right idea and I shame myself for not following his lead earlier - good by all......

I prefer to leave here with my dignity not having to begg someone for something...

Originally Posted by pghfett

Everything is 2nd best short of having the actual screen used helmet - period.

But lets talk about these plugs and such,
who can say what damage and scratches and wonkiness was caused by poor casting or bad handling? Who is to say that these coveted and quickly recasted "official" copies of one of the alledeged line up of Fett helmets was given kid glove care when molded? Perhaps this had a big impact on the overall pulled piece, I don't know....

It appears they were quickly molded/recasted because it was a no-no.
What about the handling of the costumes pieces over the years. I've seen pics of the ankle spats displayed over the wrists!
Who can say whats completely accurate based on photos from when the costumes were haphazzardly thrown onto old shelving (as seen in the cd pics) and such have caused ?

At any rate, the MR for me is a helmet I can get that was digitally scanned from an official helmet which I think looks really good and with some minor touch ups can be made very screen accurate.

The best part is I (and anyone)can get one without having to confim my alliances/friendships here or having to deal with someone doing a half-cocked background check on me just to get something fan made around here,
by begging for one or having to "kiss up" constantly and hope...or having to deal with secret web sites inside this web site, broken promises, certain people getting stuff then throwing it up in everyones faces who did not, pics that were supposed to be posted "for the community" but were not, ect, ect, ect, blah, blah blah,

Well put

I love the uneven look of the MF over the MR, must be cause it reminds me of "accurate" trooper (TE) type helmets.

Originally Posted by pghfett

Everything is 2nd best short of having the actual screen used helmet - period.

But lets talk about these plugs and such,
who can say what damage and scratches and wonkiness was caused by poor casting or bad handling? Who is to say that these coveted and quickly recasted "official" copies of one of the alledeged line up of Fett helmets was given kid glove care when molded? Perhaps this had a big impact on the overall pulled piece, I don't know....

It appears they were quickly molded/recasted because it was a no-no.

I can tell you for a fact, that the Malone helmet was molded off the original on the instructions from GL himself.

Originally Posted by Delta75

I can tell you for a fact, that the Malone helmet was molded off the original on the instructions from GL himself.

I believe this to be true as well. That molding process is also where the famous gouges in the back of the helmet seen on the reference disk came from. To bad they went a different way with the helmets DP made back in the day because that would have been sweet to have such an accurate helmet from the start.

These are some great comparison shots Braks. I wasn't aware that RS's plug had been cast, last I remember reading, he said he probably would never cast it. Will it ever be available for purchase? Also where did the name Malone Fett come from? I can't believe how "warped" the brow is around the back! How much of the inperfectons are a result of the casting process and what is actually there in the original pp2? Was the warp that prominent in the pp3 MR scanned which they "fixed" to idealize it?

I really like that concept/term that the MR is the idealized version. Do these photos change anyones ideas as to their ultimate goal of accuracy? Screen accurate or idealized accurate? somewhere in between?

Again, thanks Braks!

Originally Posted by never_ending_fett

I really like that concept/term that the MR is the idealized version. Do these photos change anyones ideas as to their ultimate goal of accuracy? Screen accurate or idealized accurate? somewhere in between?

Again, thanks Braks!

If the Hero ESB AOSW was ever casted/ scanned or whatever (yeah right), I would be taking a second mortage out for that one.......one can dream.
IMO though I think the only "screen accurate" fett helmet we all know is the ESB hero, and the ROTJ hero, the ones with the most screen time......which both are still on tour, and from my understanding that was NOT the one MR used to scan....right?? (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

If the Hero ESB AOSW was ever casted/ scanned or whatever (yeah right), I would be taking a second mortage out for that one.......one can dream.
IMO though I think the only "screen accurate" fett helmet we all know is the ESB hero, and the ROTJ hero, the ones with the most screen time......which both are still on tour, and from my understanding that was NOT the one MR used to scan....right?? (please correct me if I'm wrong)

man, alot happened from the time I started typing my last post till when I actually hit submit. I think the last post was the one just after the infamous scratchbuild picture...anyways...

I agree with you spidey on the "screen accurate" ones being the ESB and ROTJ heroes, however if the pp2 and pp3 being copied as the MF and MR all came from the supertrooper mold wouldn't that make them the nearest we have to "screen accurate" with there only being some differences in shape and location of the dent along with some other minor things?

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

If the Hero ESB AOSW was ever casted/ scanned or whatever (yeah right), I would be taking a second mortage out for that one.......one can dream.

You an me both man!

On a side note

I still believe (with little but clues and hunches) that the ESB Hero was scanned to be used as the bases for the Jango helmet in Episode 2. If this is true then a file exists out there somewhere. But there is no proof in that pudding. Just my own speculation.

I think for each of us screen accurate has a different meaning. To me I have to category's of Helmet I either seek or have currently... idealized, like my FPH, I feel is the best "Idealized" version of the current ESB Hero helmet that is on tour. I think the MR falls in to a similar category as the MF helmet for the "accurate" label on the fact that it has proven lineage to a real helmet and correct scale and dimension to a degree. But it is still in essence an "Idealized" helmet.

Here are a few non fett examples. The Gino Stormtrooper Stun helmet... in my opinion that falls into the "accurate" pile... though the Gino Stun smooth.... "idealized" as it has been altered from the state of the original castings. The TM Vader helmets that folks have gone ga ga over lately... "accurate", the castings that will be made available of them eventually... "Idealized" due to "tells" being added so the original is kept to a select few.

I think the MR will be the tip of the sword for Idealized but untitll one of the stunts or prepros in the archive are sold off or stolen and casted it will be the best out there short of the efforts of artitst on this site.

Originally Posted by pghfett

You know - Jason had the right idea and I shame myself for not following his lead earlier - good by all......

I prefer to leave here with my dignity not having to begg someone for something...

You are leaving "with your dignity" for... what is this... the THIRD time? Either stay and stop being a baby or go... It is really easy to do, but by popping in just to make inflammatory statements and then pretending to run away so you don't have to deal with the aftermath shows how little you stand behind the things you say.

evan, I think you have a lot of good points and I think that "screen accurate" can be likened to "perfection"; it is something we strive for be can never achieve. The ONLY way to ever be 100% screen accurate is to buy a SCREEN USED item... which is why I am moving more and more into the SU world and more and more away from replicas.

Wow, the MR helmet really looks great! They really did not modify it as much as I thought they might have. I like the idealized look too.

From my understanding of how they made it, they didn't purposefully "idealize" anything. There were several issues with the original scan that caused MR to have to go back to LFL and take more pics of certain details, like the dent, the forehead triangles and the whole keyslot area. I don't know if they then made corrections to the 3D model or had already made a bust and made their corrections to that. That is about it. Of course there will be some changes made for ease of mass production but l was very impressed that they didn't decide to go back and make everything perfectly symetrical and clean. While the MR helmet isn't exact, it still has PLENTY of the original helmet in it, moreso in my opinion than previous publicly available helmets.

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

In my opinion, the warp in the back of the PP2 is there although it is difficult to say if it is as prominent as it appears on the MF. Malone is Rogue Studios last name. MR did "correct" the brow in the back of the helmet as well as the keyslot area. If you look at the keyslot area on the MR, it no longer matches the screen used item.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm sure I would have noticed the keyslots being different eventually but I'm at work and not able to "study" the shots just get a good once over, and maybe a twice over on a couple of things

that being the case when you say "the keyslot area on the MR no longer matches the screen used item" it doesn't match the ESB/ROTJ helmets or doesn't match the MF or the pp3?

It's amazing how much more detail of the shape you can see without paint. The paint kinda tricks the eye when looking at the shape.

Sharing this kind of info, to me is what TDH is all about. The more info gets shared, the closer we can all come to a accurate, idealized, or mix of the two version of the costume. Thanks again.

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

You are leaving "with your dignity" for... what is this... the THIRD time? Either stay and stop being a baby or go... It is really easy to do, but by popping in just to make inflammatory statements and then pretending to run away so you don't have to deal with the aftermath shows how little you stand behind the things you say.

Not to get nasty, but dude, your signature says "walk humbly". Cut these guys some slack. Everyone has their own opinion on what "the best" helmet is.

Not everyone can afford to drop $300, $400 and up on just a HELMET. Not to mention the other parts of the costume. I'm glad you can afford to buy the holy grail screen used props. More power to ya, but don't slam somebody who can't or won't spend that kind of dough on painted fiberglass or resin.

His post is not the first one about elitist attitudes and arrogance around here. Personally, I wonder why the word "elite" is used on the forum's homepage.

Darn it! I knew that sig was going to get me in trouble!

Seriously, I am no better than these guys or anyone else here at the board or any board, but I get pretty tired of the melodrama, especially when it is repeated. These big emotional gushes and childish behavior by grown men is ridiculous. I mean... lets just cut the games here and get to it. These two guys are mad because FP won't share his helmet with them. I can guarantee you this... I wouldn't get one either... but you don't' see me going out and vomiting my person issues all over everyone, making blanket accusations against virtually an entire board and storming off like spoiled brats.

Originally Posted by Southern hunter

Not everyone can afford to drop $300, $400 and up on just a HELMET. Not to mention the other parts of the costume. I'm glad you can afford to buy the holy grail screen used props. More power to ya, but don't slam somebody who can't or won't spend that kind of dough on painted fiberglass or resin.

I am not sure where you are coming from with this. I have never slammed anyone for their choice of helmet. Now, I will argue, if you try to tell me that helmet X is more screen accurate than helmet y, but if you like helmet x, good for you! Buy it! Wear it! Enjoy it! You won't hear a thing from me. Please don't turn this into a issue about money when it isn't.

If I'm not mistaken the MR is based on the prepro2!?
Braks is this accuarate? or am I repeating something some already mentioned?LOL

jon

Close. The MF is based on the PP2. The MR is based on the PP3.

Originally Posted by shunned

If I'm not mistaken the MR is based on the prepro2!?
Braks is this accuarate? or am I repeating something some already mentioned?LOL

jon

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

Close. The MF is based on the PP2. The MR is based on the PP3.

ok which (pp2/pp3) is closer to either screen used (ESB/ROTJ)? Just for the sake of argument.

One characteristic that I noticed on the MR is that the cheek corners appear more rounded, like the Mystery helmet and unlike the MF and the screen used helmets. Still, it slloks great, thanks for the comparison pics Braks.

It is generally considered that the PP3 (the one MR scanned) is fairly close to the ESB. But that is based on the placement of the dent, and the paintjob mainly. Shapewise its just another Boba Fett helmet folks. They all came from the same mold. Any differences in shape or details and even paint come down to; how thick the fiberglass is, who may have sanded something or added dremel damage, how it came out of the mold, who it was painted by, and repairs.
The way the visor was installed caused the warps we see on the mandibles. All the helmets are warped differently in this area.

The ESB for example, Spidey you and I know it will never be cast (we're still foolishly hopeful though!). It suffers from many cracks in the fiberglass, the notorious crack repair, and LFL would never need to cast it.

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

Darn it! I knew that sig was going to get me in trouble!

Seriously, I am no better than these guys or anyone else here at the board or any board, but I get pretty tired of the melodrama, especially when it is repeated. These big emotional gushes and childish behavior by grown men is ridiculous. I mean... lets just cut the games here and get to it. These two guys are mad because FP won't share his helmet with them. I can guarantee you this... I wouldn't get one either... but you don't' see me going out and vomiting my person issues all over everyone, making blanket accusations against virtually an entire board and storming off like spoiled brats.



I am not sure where you are coming from with this. I have never slammed anyone for their choice of helmet. Now, I will argue, if you try to tell me that helmet X is more screen accurate than helmet y, but if you like helmet x, good for you! Buy it! Wear it! Enjoy it! You won't hear a thing from me. Please don't turn this into a issue about money when it isn't.

Sorry, dude, my bad.

Great comparison pics! Definitely food for thought.

Originally Posted by never_ending_fett

ok which (pp2/pp3) is closer to either screen used (ESB/ROTJ)? Just for the sake of argument.

Almost impossible to say. I think most would tend to associate the pp2 with the RotJ and the pp3 with the ESB, but that is more due to the paint jobs on them. The RotJ and PP2 were painted by the same person and clearly were made around the same time.

The hero ESB helmet APPEARS to be a bit different than all the other helmets. The PP3 is painted virtully identical to the ESB Hero, but the shapes of the two helmets differ.

Sorry I can't give a better answer. That is all I have.

Fantastic pics and even better having side by side shots......I'd take an MF anyday.....love the wonky look!

Thanks for posting Braks!8)

Give me the MR!!

while the one off plug is cool and would be a nice addition to anyones collection I like the look of the cleaned up scan by MR!!

OK...one thing..I like the grey primer version of the MR!!! The painted version from MR will not be the version sitting in my house. I think the MR fan painted version will be incredible

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

Almost impossible to say. I think most would tend to associate the pp2 with the RotJ and the pp3 with the ESB, but that is more due to the paint jobs on them. The RotJ and PP2 were painted by the same person and clearly were made around the same time.

The hero ESB helmet APPEARS to be a bit different than all the other helmets. The PP3 is painted virtully identical to the ESB Hero, but the shapes of the two helmets differ.

Sorry I can't give a better answer. That is all I have.

thanks for sharing your knowledge!

You guys just need to keep in mind that all these helmets were made from the same mold. So whether its screen used, promo used or whatever, its still the same helmet overall.

I learn new vocabulary terms all the time. Flare...greeblies...now wonkiness!

the mr really is a pretty helmet. it will be neat to see what happens as they get into fan hands and repainting / tweaking begins!

I don't care about the wonkiness or roughness on the MF.

I want one!

Originally Posted by Ripcode

I don't care about the wonkiness or roughness on the MF.

I want one!

me too!

Originally Posted by DL44 Blaster

Fantastic pics and even better having side by side shots......I'd take an MF anyday.....love the wonky look!

Thanks for posting Braks!8)

Ditto that!!!!
D

I haven't posted in a while, but I'll say this. The MR helmet appears to be more accurate to the ESB hero than the PP2 in some respects. As far as the shape of the helmet from the side, it looks better. Fuller. The PP2 above, I don't know, "leans" back or something. The ESB hero does not do that. But that could have been 'corrected' even by the attachment of the visor. Minor things can make a noticable difference.

That backside browline on ALL the helmets is proof that they are all the SAME helmet. The ESB hero's rear browline is pretty much as saggy as the PP2 just the way you see it above. All helmets had the saggy brow in the back and that would only happen if they have the same base.

Thanks Brak's for a fascinating comparison and surely what alot of people have wanted to see for a long time, I actually salute the changes they made to the MR, they have produced IMHO an incredible helmet, thanks again for the pics

Originally Posted by CSK225

I haven't posted in a while, but I'll say this. The MR helmet appears to be more accurate to the ESB hero than the PP2 in some respects. As far as the shape of the helmet from the side, it looks better. Fuller.

A very interesting and absolutely correct observation! While the MR and MF are relatively the same size, the impression I got from looking at them was that the MR had slightly more volume. I know that would generally mean the MR is bigger, but it doesn't really look "bigger." I think you are right on by saying it has a "fuller" look to it, which of course would be associated with the ESB helmet as it is considered to have a more full look while the RotJ is generally considered to have a more lean look. Again, great point!

A good point. What they did was just like what we accomplished on the X-wing (we scaled up the model to compensate for the scanners error ratio). It was scanned in and due to interpretation etc. they wanted to compensate for error ratio by the scanner so they actually increased the size by a very small percentage to compensate for the scanners ability to interpret what it was scanning. Basically an error ratio was entered and this may have resulted in a slightly larger cast..thus the wider eye slots and keyslots as well as dent.

Now, nay sayers may then say well my casting shrunk or something like that but all I can say to that is the PP2 was dropped into Tin Cure RTV Silicon (high quality no shrinkage) and had to be cut out of the mold since they did not 2 part cast it. Check your ref photos of the real PP2 on the new ref disk and you can see the knife marks on the back of the helmet. At that point the mold was put back together and casted in Ultracal (again no shrinakge material) which is what I have in my hands presently. You would have to pull multiple generations and use subpar materials before you would even detect a modicum of shrinkage.

I'm enjoying this thread as well. Like Spidey said "good fett talk". Its' about time!

*Kicks back in fett recliner with a tall beer*

Yes, theres nothing like some good fett talk. 8)

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Someone should collect all the helmets ever done, DP, Rubies, Skygunbro, MS1, MS2, MS3, BM, MSH1, MSH2, TF and FPH and do a comprehensive comparsion thread with the MR.

Good Lord, that would be SO cool!

We came close once at a prop party over at Darth Millers a year or so ago. We had everything but a Boba Maker and obviously the FPH and MR helmet had yet to be released. But its cool to see such a large amount of different helmets side by side.

Spidey, you have that pic somewhere... I know it was posted on here... I am going to go run a quick search to see if I can dig it up.

Originally Posted by evan4218

We came close once at a prop party over at Darth Millers a year or so ago. We had everything but a Boba Maker and obviously the FPH and MR helmet had yet to be released. But its cool to see such a large amount of different helmets side by side.

Spidey, you have that pic somewhere... I know it was posted on here... I am going to go run a quick search to see if I can dig it up.

Yeah, that was a cool pic....where the heck did we get all those helmets for that shot??

edited my post, added MLC's...oops..

Looking at my FPH whilst sat here reading this thread its darn close but I am NOT saying its perfect, its just perfect to me Come on dig up that photo

I think becase it was in the sarlac pit, it bit the dust due to inactivity... but I will keep digging. I know between Spidey, DM and my self we have pics on our computers of that day so I am sure we will dig something up. Between all of us we have done a million compares too.

Thanks for posting the pics and telling us all of this good info, Braks! I love reading a good, informative thread like this. Much appreciated.

I am glad to see that we are coming closer to a concensus that all the helmets are the same in terms of origin. I agree with Alex that it was either the casting process itself of repairs afterwards that have made the ESB helmet look different from the others. I know for years we thought it might be a master or a different helmet, but I no longer believe that. I believe it is just another helmet and while the base is the same; trimming, repairs, paint, wear, and warpage have given it the unique charcterstics so many have come to love. I believe this to be true of all the helmets. Each has taken on its own personality but I still assert that in the beginning they were all the same helmet.

Yes and the same can be said of the many mystery (and other) helmets out there, there are always differences in the general shape and yes alot of it is down to casting, trimming and assembly, this is a good thread well done Braks

So how many of you guys plan to sand down the MR and repaint it?

I plan on tearing my MR to shreds... LOL not literally of course but you know what I mean. I cant wait to repaint and mod it! Will be a fun project for 08.

I just noticed that the cheek plates on the MR are bowed outward. Wonder what would cause that. You would think they would use good enough quality molds that it wouldn't happen during casting.

Originally Posted by Gypsyboy

I just noticed that the cheek plates on the MR are bowed outward. Wonder what would cause that. You would think they would use good enough quality molds that it wouldn't happen during casting.

I see what you are talking about. Is that an "actual" MR sanded down or a casting of one?* If it's casted is the bowing on the "actual" MRs or something that happened during the casting process. Or my guess would be that it has something to do with the lens/face shield not being installed, which would be a possible cause if it's an "actual MR or a casting of one.

*For obvious reasons I don't expect an answer to this question

Wow, what a great post! While I can see differences in the two (especially the dent), thinks makes me even happier that I jumped on an MR. It will make a beautiful display piece.

HH

Very cool phots. I have been thinking of getting an MR just to keep in the shop for some future prodject.

I wish I had a beerto go whith the Fett talk.

here are a few of the pics

Spidey or Evan can probably identify which is which helmet

Originally Posted by evan4218

I think becase it was in the sarlac pit, it bit the dust due to inactivity... but I will keep digging. I know between Spidey, DM and my self we have pics on our computers of that day so I am sure we will dig something up. Between all of us we have done a million compares too.

pretty cool pictures DM. Not sure on the helmets, as I've not seen many of them in person and definately no expert. Pretty sure the one on the far left is a DP 95/96? The jet pack looks like a MLC? The white one natty MSH? The silver one TF? No clue on any of the others...SGT Fang 4th from the right in the 1st picture?

I'll have a go. From L to R.
Don Post, TF, Don Post, MS1, MS2, MS3, BM, Sgt Fang.

Originally Posted by kbrosseau

I'll have a go. From L to R.
Don Post, TF, Don Post, MS1, MS2, MS3, BM, Sgt Fang.

are you going of the 1st or 2nd picture? I think the order changed.

Mostly by the 2nd picture since that shows the most but the order didnt change. I see now that what I thought was a MS2 (I seem to remember those had tall domes?) But now I see its problably a Natty/FP helmet.

I think that this has all come so far from what it used to be...I mean, I can remember the day when the Don Post helmet was the BOMB And then, the fiberglass helmet and now the helmet we have all been waiting for <or at least most of us anyway> I will never have the big fancy house or the Hummer sitting in the drive way...I will never have a screen used FETT helmet...not even a casting of one. I can live with this. And if the MR helmet IS what ITS said that it is, I can live with that too There are things in this world that will never be but that shouldn't stop us from wanting. Its OK to keep on reaching for that pot of gold or in this case a sreen accurate helmet You know, I have really enjoyed this thread...its kinda like the retirement party that no one wants to have but its here so lets enjoy it and revel in its arrival The MR helmet will be proudly displayed in a place of honor in my home but I do wish that I had that bloody MF