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One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    terminal fettler said: View Post
    No Dave, i'm in the shot, i'm just submerged...it's a long time since i made six ladies smile at once...
    That's the funniest thing I've read in a few months.

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    Dude im rolling!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    Hahahaha! Nice!!

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    I have a couple of questions for the man himself here.

    What mix ratio do you use when mixing the greens 78+159?

    What type of brush do you use, if any, when doing fine details?

    Is any type of primer ok, or are there specific ones that work well with Humbrol?

    Do you use thinner, if so, what type and at what ratio do you mix it?

    Other than that, awesome paintwork!!! This will be my bible when my BM lid gets here, which is soon hopefully. Been almost 8 months now:P
    Last edited by cr4nky; Jul 3, 2009 at 10:00 AM.

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    Hi cr4nky, the 78+159 mix is normally 1:1 though i think slightly more 159 should be added to taste (not literally of course) The brush i use isnt a brush but a silicone shaper: 0 angle chisel soft colour shaper by Royal Sovereign ltd UK. The application is much easier and finer detailing can be achieved, also no clogging brush bristles! The primer is a standard acrylic based auto primer in a can. I use the Humbrol enamel thinner approx 2:1 paint to thinners...Hope this helps and i look forward to your progress thread when you receive your helmet!

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    thanks bro
    that clears out a lot for me. Just waiting on whether they will ship enmels to me or not from the states...

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    Hey cr4nky, why don´t you let them be shipped to you from GB or germany? We have those colors here too. Wouldn´t it be cheaper to norway?

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    Yeah, probably Just didn´t find a European webshop. Shipping wasn´t that bad though, as long as the number of paints was fairly high. Hopefully I´ll get an answer from them tomorrow on it. Although it does seem like they will ship it, they´ve accepted my payment, and seem to be a serious enough shop. Fingers crossed

    If you have any good sites I can buy from, I´d appreciate a PM with them though
    Last edited by cr4nky; Jul 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM.

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    One shop you could try: http://www.moduni.com

    I´ll keep on looking for others too. More to come.

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    That's looking fabulous. May I ask what make of helmet that is? Yours?

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    Do you know if white spirit can be used as thinner with Humbrol?

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    NoHumorMan said: View Post
    That's looking fabulous. May I ask what make of helmet that is? Yours?
    Cheers...Its a cast from my scratch build from a couple of years ago...

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    cr4nky said: View Post
    Do you know if white spirit can be used as thinner with Humbrol?
    You could use white spirit, not sure how good the results would be, i use Humbrol thinners approximately 2:1 paint to thinners. I save money by cleaning/soaking my equipment in white spirits...

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    KK.

    Thanks

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    How long do you let the paint cure for after application before you start to outline and mask? I know they say you should wait 6 hours before recoating and 24 hours for it to fully cure.

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    cr4nky said: View Post
    How long do you let the paint cure for after application before you start to outline and mask? I know they say you should wait 6 hours before recoating and 24 hours for it to fully cure.
    Spot on; i wait 24 hours before i outline and mask...I normally apply 2-3 coats by airbrush, touch dry between each coat...

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    terminal fettler said: View Post
    ESB 100% layered Humbrol colour list:

    1. white primer
    2. off white base coat 147
    3. buff gently with 0000 wire wool
    4. mask entire helmet except L/H ear
    5. spray red 60 on L/H ear
    6. liquid mask red damage on L/H ear
    7. spray grey 28 on L/H ear
    8. remove red liquid mask
    9. liquid mask red and grey damage on L/H ear
    10. mix greens 78+159, then spray on L/H ear
    11. remove all masking from helmet
    12. mask L/H ear
    13. liquid mask off white on helmet as per ref pics
    14. spray silver 11onto helmet
    15. Liquid mask silver and off white damage all over helmet
    16. spray grey 79 all over helmet, spray grey 140 onto mandibles and trim to lighten slightly
    17. remove liquid mask, lightly buff with 000 wire wool
    18. masking tape whole helmet except mandibles/trim
    19. Liquid mask silver and grey areas on mandibles/trim
    20. spray purple (73+104 approx. 2:3 ratio) onto mandibles and trim
    21. remove silver/grey liquid mask on mandibles and trim
    22. liquid mask silver, grey and purple areas on mandibles and trim
    23. spray red 73 onto mandibles and trim
    24. remove liquid mask on mandibles and trim, lightly buff with 0000 wire wool
    25. mask mandibles and trim
    26. liquid mask silver and grey on upper cheeks then spray black 33.
    27. remove mask on dome and lower cheeks then mask upper cheeks
    28. liquid mask silver and grey damage on dome and lower cheeks
    29. spray green 78 on dome and lower cheeks, lightly buff with 0000 wire wool, mask helmet except back panels
    30. liquid mask silver and grey on back panels, spray beige, 28+103
    31. remove liquid mask on back panels
    32. mask silver, grey and beige on back panels ,spray green ,76+96
    33. remove liquid mask from back panels
    34. mask kill stripes (tape and liquid), 154 fade to 82
    35. dent powder burn, 33+72 and a bit of 62
    also around edge of back and lower cheeks, very lightly
    36. liquid mask detail on R/H ear spray sand 93
    37. scuff marks between dent and kill stripes satin black 85, use old fine brush cut to a stump
    38. masking tape and liquid mask R/H ear decal, spray white 34
    39. masking tape white arc on R/H ear decal, spray satin black 85
    40. brighter red detail on R/H upper mandible area masked off seperately red 60 darkened slightly with red 73
    41. grime in arrows, around ears and on top of mandible/ dome join, 93 mixed thin with white spirit
    42. yellow glue blobs on back and side of dome, windsor and newton ink sunshine yellow, apply in layers with silicone brush
    43. spray brown 62 fine/coarse splatter on R/H side of helmet and R/H ear and splatter beige 103 onto mandibles as per reference pics
    44. seal entire helmet with 3-4 thin coats of satin coat
    45. have a cup of tea and admire your work...

    Step 45 is optional, feel free to replace tea with coffee or beer...
    wheres the photo for step 45?

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    terminal fettler said: View Post
    Cheers...Its a cast from my scratch build from a couple of years ago...
    Sweet. Would it be possible to get some more info on that as it looks super sweet?

    You could pm me, so we don't litter this fine thread with my inquiries! .)

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    aero said: View Post
    wheres the photo for step 45?
    Look a little harder! This step is illustrated in my profile pic...

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    I was just wondering. How does the green mix for the left ear compare to the POG from the Rogues studios list? Do you know?

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    cr4nky said: View Post
    I was just wondering. How does the green mix for the left ear compare to the POG from the Rogues studios list? Do you know?
    I've no idea how these colours compare, i went off of the AOSW pics and the screen captures from ESB. I now mix 78+159 1:1 and this seems a close colour to me...the weathering is important on this ear also, i mist/splatter a dark sand colour no.93...seems to be mostly on the leading edge of the ear...

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    Sounds great. As I told my garrison mate, as long as the green is close to the original the difference after all the weathering and washes won't really be that big.

    Thanks mate.

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    Some of the best paint work I've seen in a reeeally long time.
    Amazed at your work T.F.

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    why in the world is this thread not a sticky?>????!?!?!?!?!?!!!!????????????



    ART??

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    Re: One last wafer thin ESB paint job...

    Agreed...

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