Discussion on One last wafer thin ESB paint job... within the Boba Fett Helmet forum, part of the Star Wars Original Trilogy Bounty Hunters category; Originally Posted by terminal fettler Sounds like i should prep
46. gently buff the entire helmet with 0000 wire wool. This smoothes the surface slightly and brings the colours together. This also gives a flat surface for the weathering process...
47. 'super detail' the upper R/H mandible area with grey, purple and red, a separate mask for each colour. Masking tape off the general area and pick out the detail with liquid mask, outline with a pencil first...
48. I use a stencil to outline the kill stripes between each layer, this allows for some movement to aline the details...
G, could you maybe put a little more attention to detail in this lid......
you suck, Dave...your helmet sucks, and i am going to do a better job on mine!! well, i am going to try, anyways... Garrett, fantastic work as usual, brother!
The weathering process i intend to use involves grey,brown and black airbrushing layers. This will have some effect on the finished colour. I'm also going by the AOSW reference pics, so here's a comparison shot...
i see what you mean.
but to me it still looks a bit more red,
as you said with weathering the colour will change.
Great work as always, can't wait to see this finished
49. outline kill stripes with stencil and white pencil, masking tape and liquid mask off the kill stripes.
50. airbrush yellow no.154 fade gently to orange no.82 towards the rear of the helmet.
51. start to scratch in the key details around the helmet with compass point...
Wow, that's amazing. I want to do it that way but I'm afraid of doing it layered
Your H#73 is a perfect red! Mine was more pink
Your H#73 is a perfect red! Mine was more pink [/QUOTE]
Hmmm... i've heard that from a couple of people. I always do test strips of the colour mixes, i have also found that dropping the pressure on the compressor gives a smoother application, if the surface ends up grainy from paint build up this can change the hew of the colour. I always buff the surface when fully dry with wire wool which also seems to help to deepen the tones...
Killer Kill Stripes....yep I said it.
Awesome work Garrett, this step by step process along with the up close detail pics of the helmet will really help me out come time to paint it. Can't wait to see the weathering!
great pics of the weathering it looks spectacular. I am looking to build my own helmet using an old DP to compare, but it doesn't have the extreme wear and weathering. I want the most accurate. Thanks for the pics.
52. start to weather helmet using no.s black 33, white 34, grey 32, brown 62 and a white and dark brown water soluble pencil...
Simply amazing work, Garrett.
Absolutely fantastic Garrett!
Thanks! Almost there with this paint job, it's only taken me 4 months so far......
I just realized everyone has nice professional, comments and mine are like SICK, Killer Kill stripes, B.A.
Garrett, it's really bad form taking pics of the archive helmet and trying to pass them off as your own work! Tsk tsk. . .
You just keep getting better and better. :thumbup
Please, can you do a list with the colours? I'm a bit lost because you said you have used gray # 27 for dome, but also for mandibles, but they look completly diferent
absolutely amazing!! so jealous of his work, and so jealous Dave that this is yours...this paint up is BA!! SIIIIICK!!!
53. use Superjedi's recommended Woodland Scenics decals (MG 737) for ear decals
54. seal with satin cote
Last edited by terminal fettler; 05-29-2009 at 11:06 AM.
Its so INCREDIBLY SWEET!
Great work man!
Reminds me of xmas morning. lol! GREAT job buddy!
TF dude!!You got mad skills on these ESB lids.My hat is off to ya.Awesome!!!!
Thanks for all the kind comments! As for mad skills? Just a lot of time looking at reference pictures and experimenting with techniques and colours...still room for improvement!...
very nice, TF!!!!! i see you say there is room for improvement, i would disargree. i think it is close to perfect.
Man, that's just fantastic. :thumbup
Hi Garrett, I was wondering if you could post your kill stripe dimensions. I've laid out a masking tape guide on my helmet, but it doesn't look right.
I guess I need the height and width of your stencil, the distance the stripes are apart from one another, and the distance above the red band. Do you start on the left one , right one, or middle ? I tried to line up the 7th stripe using the center line of the ear as a guide, but it looks off on one end or the other.
I have a WIP thread for my helmet, but after looking over this tutorial, I'm going to re-do my back panels yet again. The way you have it broken down helps a lot.
Thanks for any assistance, I hope all is well,
I've been sitting here flipping between AoSW reference pics and your finished pictures....your helmet is a mirror image of the original! This is absolutely amazing! Great work!!!
Hope this helps...
Thanks so much Garrett ! I'm also re-painting my back panels per your guide. It's not 100 % match, but it will look much better than my previous attempt.
I hope all is well, good to hear from you too,
i know everyone else has said this at least once....but this is excellent work!
People wonder where TF got his crazy awesome artistic skills??? I have found the origin.....an old training pic from his college days.
Well TF kinda got hosed. The camera man cut him out. He's pointman.
No Dave, i'm in the shot, i'm just submerged...it's a long time since i made six ladies smile at once...
By the way, glad to see your favoured attire is making a come back!
Dude im rolling!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I have a couple of questions for the man himself here.
What mix ratio do you use when mixing the greens 78+159?
What type of brush do you use, if any, when doing fine details?
Is any type of primer ok, or are there specific ones that work well with Humbrol?
Do you use thinner, if so, what type and at what ratio do you mix it?
Other than that, awesome paintwork!!! This will be my bible when my BM lid gets here, which is soon hopefully. Been almost 8 months now:P
Last edited by cr4nky; 07-03-2009 at 09:00 AM.
Hi cr4nky, the 78+159 mix is normally 1:1 though i think slightly more 159 should be added to taste (not literally of course) The brush i use isnt a brush but a silicone shaper: 0 angle chisel soft colour shaper by Royal Sovereign ltd UK. The application is much easier and finer detailing can be achieved, also no clogging brush bristles! The primer is a standard acrylic based auto primer in a can. I use the Humbrol enamel thinner approx 2:1 paint to thinners...Hope this helps and i look forward to your progress thread when you receive your helmet!
that clears out a lot for me. Just waiting on whether they will ship enmels to me or not from the states...
Hey cr4nky, why don´t you let them be shipped to you from GB or germany? We have those colors here too. Wouldn´t it be cheaper to norway?
Yeah, probably Just didn´t find a European webshop. Shipping wasn´t that bad though, as long as the number of paints was fairly high. Hopefully I´ll get an answer from them tomorrow on it. Although it does seem like they will ship it, they´ve accepted my payment, and seem to be a serious enough shop. Fingers crossed
If you have any good sites I can buy from, I´d appreciate a PM with them though
Last edited by cr4nky; 07-05-2009 at 03:12 PM.
One shop you could try: http://www.moduni.com
I´ll keep on looking for others too. More to come.
That's looking fabulous. May I ask what make of helmet that is? Yours?
Do you know if white spirit can be used as thinner with Humbrol?
How long do you let the paint cure for after application before you start to outline and mask? I know they say you should wait 6 hours before recoating and 24 hours for it to fully cure.
I was just wondering. How does the green mix for the left ear compare to the POG from the Rogues studios list? Do you know?
Sounds great. As I told my garrison mate, as long as the green is close to the original the difference after all the weathering and washes won't really be that big.
Some of the best paint work I've seen in a reeeally long time.
Amazed at your work T.F.
why in the world is this thread not a sticky?>????!?!?!?!?!?!!!!????????????
I third that. TF has set the standard and keeps raising the bar....
I looked at this very helmet today getting ready for a troop. Im just s amazed as when he finished and shipped it to me. Thanks again BIG G!
Please someone make this a sticky......??? anyone?
This is amazing work. and thank you for the step by step. very helpful
I plan on using this tutorial and am in the process of purchasing my supplies. I would like to purchase all the paints needed at one time.
Q - Which paints will I need multiple bottles of? And suggestion of amount to finish the job. (I don't want to run out of something half way through and have to wait on a purchase/shipping etc.)
Just noticed your post above, sorry. You can get away with using two tins for the main colours... Just updated the first post with some slight colour tweaks...
I know it's been said before, but this thread is freakin' awesome...I'm in Australia and it's saved me so much time and effort, that saying thanks just seems such an understatement... but here goes anyway.
STill one of the best paintjobs I have ever seen... I regret 110% selling my bucket :'( Love your work TF
TF , you said you used red 73 on the visor mandible area, i dont know if there is an other humbrol colour range , but the 73 i ve got is almost purple , ? has any one else had this isue ,
any way this is a great threed
WOW this is a great thread. Thanks to everyone for all the great info it is very helpful. I doubt my vote counts but I vote for sticky as well.
No i mean the colour 73 , that i have is a wine purple red, is this somee thing any one else has come across
ahhhh i dunno bud do a color chart to see on spare plastic
Done, thats what made me ask in the first place ,Doesnt really mater , though im getting tips im not using the same colour list or order that TF did ( though im starting to think i should have)
Well send me a PM with a pic maybe can help u out...I know the polyscale colors not humbrol
Maybe he has a different mix in Australia? But deffinately everything u also said is true about the other colors effecting the hue your eye see's. But I think Jinto knows to layer it...BTW TF, Im finally getting finished on my first quality ESB paint up. It all started when I saw this thread almsot two years ago when I was a lurker. Thanks again for this awesome thread.
Fair play though TF, this is a great thread. It like my Bible for the ESB paintjob
I also found that mine was a little dark, yet different light can also affect the colour IMO. But rubbing it down with 0000 wire wool like G said also affects the final colour.
Thanx TF , I did the same thing, i bought every green red purlpe bayesh gray and black ,
I ve basicly just gone by eye , but its good to have a refrence ,
With the 73 it is positively no 2 ways about it not red the colour is called wine
i think F4R(thanx for the offer ill take u up on that once i put this down thE shapers) is right they may be dIfrent from aus to the UK
the reds that are red ,not blue red , purple red ,brick red brown red, are called 60, 132, 174 these were the only real reds do any of those numbers look right to you TF
I would be interested to see how your 73 came out, any images of your test strips you can post? The other reds won't work, red 60 for example is a bright red, good for the L/H ear and as an extra layer on the mandibles before the red 73 to pick up the bright red areas...
Hmmm, its difficult to tell from that colour test. I always apply my test strips in the manner i intend to use the paint ie airbrushing in this case. If you airbrushed the colour in 2 -3 good layers, once dried tickle it with 0000 wire wool and then add your desired clear coat I think you'll be surprised how differently that colour turns out...