Newbie - Need Help on painting helmet

hi

Well im Neil from the uk and sort of a newbie and a member to ukRPB & Bikerscout.net for over a year now and some people here might reconise me hopefully, ive just finished my first costume - Biker Scout and im on my next project.

You can see my finished Scout pic on the link below:
http://pub24.ezboard.com/ftheukpropp...picID=11.topic

I have alot of skill in using AutoCAD, decals and making templates so if there anything i can do for you drop me a email

Ive been wanting to be a Fett for a while but due to $$ ££ I can only do one project at a time :(

so now I can start me new Boba Fett Helmet project.

Ive been here a few time times over the last year and now need some help.

I need help on how to paint a Boba DP helmet in the same colurs from ROTJ is there any tutorails on the web that i can use?

cheers

neil
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Hi Neil and welcome to the board!! :cheers

The following thread should help you out a bit:

http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=3093&forum=2

Hi Guys & Gals

Firstly Cheers the the heads up on what colours,

here some pics of the 97 Don post Helmet which im repainting which i bought it from a fellow UKRPB member in the uk
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/Bfexist.jpghttp://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/Bfexist01.jpg
The inside of the helmet was already reinforced to stop the flaring of the cheeks.

Heres some pics of the helmet which has been cleaned up a given its first coat of primer and a new visor
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/Bf01.jpghttp://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/Bf02.jpg

I noticed last nite looking thro my SW Fact File that boba visor was more angular as shown on the below image (shown in red)
]http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/Bfview.jpg
Do i need to cut some excess materail away from the visor?.

Also the front arrows < > do they need light red and green lights?

cheers

neil
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I think that the angled visor top that you are worried about could be fixed by heating the helmet a tad and bending it. If you do.... fix the straightness of the bottom part of the T too. Looks like you're on your way though :)

what kind of metal bracket did you use there at the bottom of the helmet?

ON a seperate note...my helmet has warped a bit in the back from sitting on the display shelf. Would a heat gun soften it up enough to reshape it? I usually put it in the hot car for an hour or so but it's not the right time of year for that.

Doug

Hey UK. If your helm is anything like my 96 was, it should be very flexible/flimsy w/out a visor in it! What happens if you just apply some outward pressure on the cheek areas? Pretend like your trying to add some extra ESB flare, does the verticle portion of your main T become more strait, and your sqint angle increase? Dont be afraid of applying some pressure here & there & get a little forcefull w/ it. Then install your visor once you have a better shape. Hope that helps a bit.

Yup, get rid of the bottom brace thing, pull the cheeks back to where they are supposed to be, and you will fix both the flare and the squint problems. After you mount the visor, you shouldn't need the brace.

Hi, and welcome to TDH. I agree with my fellow fett's, do not cut anything. Take the lens apart and heat and reshape the helmet, good luck.

hi

well i did the reheating the helmet and fixed the position i wanted but keeps going back to the original shape gggggggggrrrr...... so i might have to cut away and the T bit to give its slope effect

more pics coming soon

cheers

neil
uk-scout

Maybe you could add another brace at the top too?
Just an idea

I put the helmet above the gas fire at home and let the war/hot air, warm the lid up then moulded it into shape and put it into a bath of cold water and it worked

Also over the weekend i was able to find one matt spray paint, and went to several model shops, halfords etc....

this pic show the first coat of dark matt green and my first attempt on the scratches. The visour replacement has been temp fixed in.

http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/bfsc.jpg

got some better pics of the orginal helmet used in ROTJ and will be doing that paint scheme for this helmet.

Does anyone know where i can get some spray paints etc.. online to match the correct colours?

Its not perfect but im supprised how much you pick up when making/painting and mods this tpye of helmet, anyway im having fun doing it.:)

cheers

neil
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Hi ukscout,
what green did you use for the dome, I know its a nightmare getting accurate colours in the UK, I found peugeot tartan green from halfords pretty close for rotj armor, not tried it on the lid yet.
Keep us posted with your finds :D

Fett-UK

hi fett uk

i got this from a local model shop where i live for £7 for a 400ml can.

the colour is Matt Dark Green and supplied/produced by flair spectrum paint for model finishing, thats about it.
If you need a can of it I can get another if needed, if so email me.

cheers

neil
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you can heat your helmet by running it under really hot water and shaping it. after you get the flare you want, you will have to reinforce it some how to keep the shape. even the 97 's look sharp after their reshaped.

fett-uk heres a link to my scout costume
[link}http://pub24.ezboard.com/ftheukproppartyfrm7.showMessage?topicID=11.topic{/link]

I did the heating up and remoulding but over the week the DP helmet gone back to orignal shape gggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrr..... so ill have to reinforce it.

**UPDATE**
heres an updated pic after i put the red on the helmet, I now its a bit bright but it will be darken down when i get some or spray paints, inks and more GW paints also

http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/bfred.jpg
I used electrical tape on the helmet to do the chipped paint effect, i found if you pulled it tight when applying to the helmet then used a pen to draw on the areas where i wanted to leave on
Then i cut around the areas i marked on in pen, the tape broke away from these areas after cutting making it easy to pull the tape off and leaving the taped areas on.

cheers

neil
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Hey Scout. Helmet is coming on.

Re: shaping, I have a 97DP that had a completely flat head and an inverted flare. A few minutes blowing a hairdrier inside (keep it moving round to avoid overheating one spot), then stick a towel on your head and jam the bucket on tight. Pull it down hard and out slightly to get the required flare. Do it in a mirror so you can see what's going on. I got quite good results and the shape held, although mt stock visor is still in at the mo. I'll rip that out soon.

Re: colours, I have found a fair few close colours in Halfords, Like Fett-UK. They are gloss, so will require a light sanding to dull them down, but you get a great choice of colours. The colour your using loks pretty close!

Keep posting updates. Hope the above is helpful.

Si

hi all

well got the next coat of paint on at last as ive had trouble getting the correct green colour in Devon as not meny model shops do it in matt only in gloss ggggrrrrr....

But i managed to get this green from my local Games Workshop:D
heres some new pics
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/bfgreen01.jpghttp://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/bfgreen02.jpg

Its not moive accruate but im picking up new painting methods along the way.
cheers

neil
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not bad. must suck to live in the UK, cuz of paints and all, but it looks like you're making the best of the situation

looks good

I like that green, it's definitely one of closer ones I've seen, very nice :)

The red may be a little too bright, but the weathering looks like a great start.

I can't talk, my first helmet was blue lol... Then we learn about lighting effects and stuff...

Looking great, really like that green,

Phil

Looks good scout!
I didn't know games workshop did paint!!!
I'll give em a try

Fett-uk

hi guys

the Games Workshop spray paint i used was goblin green and is about £6 per can.

thanks again for the coments

cheers

neil
uk-scout

:suprise

I'm with JMP, that green looks bang on. I am so going to the Local GW at lunch!

Oh how good does it feel to have a UK fett find an accurate colour. Good recon, UK Scout. :D

I hadn't even thought about going to GW. I've been lurking in all the other model shops around here for weeks, they all look at me like I'm some kind of freak!

Apollo 50 - yeah it's a real drag when you guys in the US come up with some great find that everyone can buy everywhere for &#36;0.99 and you either can't get it over here or it costs 100's of &#36;/£. Makes it really fun when you do find something, though.

Si

That new green you got looks very ESB-ish. Nice find with the limited paint sources you seem to have in the UK. :)

You might have a tough time seeing anything out of that helm w/ the squint so small, but that is a really neat paint job bro!!! I dont know what it is, but that really looks cool. (Its not movie accurate,) but I love it!! Good job!

hi all

ype the T area is poor, ive remulded the helmet serveral time to get it fixed into the correct postion by after a few weeks it goes back to the orignal position gggggggrrrrrrrr.....

But i have now decided to make a type of brace to hold the sides in to prevent it from going back to the orignal shape.

heres a pic on the bracing at the bottom of the helmet to stop it from moving
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba%20Helmet/Bfexist01.jpg

Im using other Game Workshop paints to added detail and the yelow stripes, they only cost £1.50 each and they also have inks.

Youll find that they have a limeted no. of sprays, and the green you want is GOBLIN GREEN

also ill keep you updated on the jet pack and gauntlet templates.

cheers

neil
uk-scout

Thanks for the update Neil.

I've just been to Games Workshop. Goblin Green is a discontinued colour in the spray cans according to the guy I spoke to. It's not been made for a couple of years now and my local store has none and can't get anymore. :( how many cans did your branch have left?

A friend of my wife is going to the states in a few weeks (early May, I think) who has said she can get a few cans of paint if I'd like her to.

Any UK Fetts want to order some? I can't guarantee how many cans she'll be able to bring back (if any) but I wondered about making a list. Post/PM me with your interest.

From what I can gather, the colours would be:

ESB (As per MB's website)

Rustoleum spruce green
Rustoleum charcoal green or Hunter green
Krylon Ruddy brown primer


ROTJ (As per Lynn's gorgeous helmet pictures on TDH)

Krylon satin sage #3512
Rustoleum American accents hunt club Green #7944
Color place red primer
Rustoleum Painters touch hunter green #1938

These are just the base colours, obviously, and don't include all the weathering colours Lynn mentioned.

As I say, I'm not guaranteeing anything, and it's a way off yet, but let me know what you think. If there's any interest, I'll speak to her about it.

Sorry about the hijack Neil! Got a bit OT there.

Back to Neil's helmet guys and gals. Yay Neil! :cheers :cheering

Si

hi Han

I saw about 4 cans left at Games Workshop and i have to get another on Sat do you want me pick you a couple?

cheers

neil
uk-scout

Maybe. What size are the cans and how many cans do you use on one bucket? Up here they were £4 for one of the smaller cans and £5 for the larger ones.

Plus, are you going on Sunday (thinking if you get some for me I could pick 'em up and pay for 'em then)?

Before I get you to get them, I need to consult the piggy bank, but I'm def. interested!

Thanks

Si

On second thoughts, if you're going on Sunday, can you bring your bucket? That way I could get a good idea of the colours etc. before commiting to buy them.

Plus you'll be easy to recognise. There won't be too many Biker Scouts wandering round with a Boba Helmet under their arm. ;)

Si

hi all

Just met Geremy Bullock at a Star Wars charity event in Honiton England where i got my helemt signed.

Geremy also tried it on also and commented on the colour scheme, "brillant colours and I like it when fans bring along there own customised items for me to see"

Ive got some pics of Geremy with my helmet on and ill post them monday

**IMPORTANT NEWS**

Geremy mentioned that hes doing a charity event this year in the USA dressed as Boba himself.
He mentioned to me and my girlfriend he has just got the permisson of Lucas to make a full scale set of armour to wear on the day at South Carolina USA


Si

didnt bump inot at the event sorry chap :( i was there from 12-2

cheers

neil
uk-scout

:doh

I must have just missed you. I ducked out for lunch at just gone 12, but I was back for the quiz @ 1:15. I was sat at the front of the seating area so you prob walked right past me to speak to Jeremy. Sorry to have missed you.

You going to Mem in April. I Might be going, but birth of second child is due very soon then so it's touch and go.

Got a bit OT there. Sorry guys :)

Si

Thanks from Jayson and Phill on UKRPB

who both gave me extra the great painting tips which ive used as you can see on the below pic.
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/boba.jpg

Going to darken the red down and sort out the flase problem by using a some bent aluminium glued and screwed into place this week.

thanks again guys for your tips and help

neil
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Neil,

Great looking weathering there matey. What colours/method are you using for that? (makes a change asking that question knowing that I can get the paints mentioned in the answer (unless it's goblin green in a can! :doh)).

Are they the methods that the guys at UKRPB mentioned?

Si

Hi Si

If you need a couple of cans of goblin green let me know and ill pick you a can up also i have 3/4 of a can if you need it.

If you need the silver just goto halfords and get some car spray.

this is what i used
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/starwars/starwars20.ico-grey undercoat -Plastickote from B&Q
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/starwars/starwars20.ico-matt black
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/starwars/starwars20.ico-silver
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/starwars/starwars20.ico-dark matt green
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/starwars/starwars20.ico-goblin green

also used some Citadale/ Games workshop paints

let me know if you need a hand

cheers

neil
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Hi Neil

Is it just me, but I cant see any pics!!

Fett-UK

Fett-UK, pictures working fine this end. (13 March @ 9:00am GMT)

UK-Scout. cost is a factor at the mo (baby due pretty soon, so spare cash is non existent), but in case I can sell a kidney, or convince my wife that I need to buy a load of paint (selling the kidney'd be easier I think :lol) how many tins of Goblin green did you use?

Having said that, I think I'm gonna go RotJ, so I might be looking for a darker green anyhow. Not sure yet. Might go SE and have the best of both worlds. ;)

Plus, where'd you get the dark green, and what is it?

Cheers mate.

Si

hi guys

Just to let you know ive got the flare problem sorted.
All i did was cut the metal reinforcement that was already in the helmet and its cured the flare problem.

heres the pic of it so far
http://www.uk-scout.co.uk/Boba Helmet/boba.jpg

Ive ordered my new lense and lights for the helmet and ill post the finished pics next week when i get them from my friend in the USA.

Just goto glue the metal mesh in the back and pad it out inside and and add the logos on the side of the helmet and its finish:D

Q. How do i stick the new lense in:doh

Si PM me and ill send you the info on the dark green, again we missed each other as i passed you at mem when you where on your phone, but we must arrange to meet each other at MEM in JULY

neil
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Looking really good now the reverse flare is sorted

PM sent

Si